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Sell by dates on pet food
Sex God
I feed my self and family 'out of date' food so the pets (if I had any) would get the same treatment.
The dates are often irrelavent, especially on dry or tinned food. And for the rest you can go by looks, texture and smell. I've seen a 6 month use by date on jam ffs! It should last a minimum of a year - that's what jam is all about. Mind you, I wouldn't feed jam to a pet.
The dates are often irrelavent, especially on dry or tinned food. And for the rest you can go by looks, texture and smell. I've seen a 6 month use by date on jam ffs! It should last a minimum of a year - that's what jam is all about. Mind you, I wouldn't feed jam to a pet.
Many years ago,my first ever job was in a family run catering establishment. If we had any slightly out of date meat we would test it by feeding a little bit to the cat. If it ate it we would serve the rest to the customer, if not we put it in the bin.
Nobody ever complained of food poisoning!
Nobody ever complained of food poisoning!
Quote by foxylady2209
I feed my self and family 'out of date' food so the pets (if I had any) would get the same treatment.
The dates are often irrelavent, especially on dry or tinned food. And for the rest you can go by looks, texture and smell. I've seen a 6 month use by date on jam ffs! It should last a minimum of a year - that's what jam is all about. Mind you, I wouldn't feed jam to a pet.
You don't get "use by" dates on jam. It is a "best before" date. This means that the manufacturer guarantees the quality of the food upto that date, after this date it may be a lesser quality but it would probably be safe to eat.
Dave_Notts
The question isn't would you or your pets knowingly eat food that has passed its sell-by date... I mean... I eat food that is so called "off", and I have fed my pets and my family food that has passed its "sell by" or "use by" date.
Call me irresponsible if you wish but I would respectfully suggest that everyone else has done the same at one point...
The question is whether you would knowingly buy food that has passed it's sell by or use by dates - and as far as I am concerned I would not.
Choosing to eat food that you know is passed its use-by date is a matter of your own personal choice, but buying food which you reasonably believe to be in date, but subsequently proves not to be - is a matter of negligence by the seller.
Call me irresponsible if you wish but I would respectfully suggest that everyone else has done the same at one point...
The question is whether you would knowingly buy food that has passed it's sell by or use by dates - and as far as I am concerned I would not.
Choosing to eat food that you know is passed its use-by date is a matter of your own personal choice, but buying food which you reasonably believe to be in date, but subsequently proves not to be - is a matter of negligence by the seller.
Sex God
I'm sure animal feed has to be safe for human consumption. I'll find out, i have people who get paid to know shit like this 
Sex God
Quote by HimandHer
The question isn't would you or your pets knowingly eat food that has passed its sell-by date... I mean... I eat food that is so called "off", and I have fed my pets and my family food that has passed its "sell by" or "use by" date.
Call me irresponsible if you wish but I would respectfully suggest that everyone else has done the same at one point...
The question is whether you would knowingly buy food that has passed it's sell by or use by dates - and as far as I am concerned I would not.
Choosing to eat food that you know is passed its use-by date is a matter of your own personal choice, but buying food which you reasonably believe to be in date, but subsequently proves not to be - is a matter of negligence by the seller.
I wouldn't expect to pay full price for it - simply because the range of dates I have to choose to consume it has been reduced. Anyone can make a mistake - but caveat emptor. The labels are there, if people choose not to check they can hardly complain if someone else hasn't either.
Sex God
No I wouldent hesitate to give the cats out of date food. They get tinned cat food in the main but on occasion do get out of date meat or left overs that have been in the fridge longer than 48 hours.
Casanova
nope i wouldnt either
Sex God
I suppose the question here is - do we trust the producers to tell us the truth about how long stuff will last and such like.
I buy those clothes washing tablets - more expensive than powder but convenient in my tiny utility. They say you need 2 per wash. Well they WOULD wouldn't they? If I were selling them I'd double up the necessary amount to sell more. I use 1 - it works fine. (Actually I often don't use any apart from a few squirts of pre-wash on visible marks. That also works perfectly well)
I buy those clothes washing tablets - more expensive than powder but convenient in my tiny utility. They say you need 2 per wash. Well they WOULD wouldn't they? If I were selling them I'd double up the necessary amount to sell more. I use 1 - it works fine. (Actually I often don't use any apart from a few squirts of pre-wash on visible marks. That also works perfectly well)
Quote by flower411
That`s part of the problem .... you have "sell by" .."best before" ...."use by" and in the animal feed industry you often have "batch numbers" or even a date that the batch was produced !! It`s sometimes hard work explaining to people that a produced date isn`t a sell by date !!!
The problem is private industry putting dates all over the place that confuses customers into throwing away good food as it has gone past the "date".
There are only two dates that people need to remember. "Best before" and "Use by".
Best before is a quality issue and use by is the one where the food is guarenteed to be safe before that date but they will not guarentee it after that date. Use by dates are put on high risk foods i.e. cooked meats, ready to eat food, etc
Dave_Notts
Quote by foxylady2209
I wouldn't expect to pay full price for it - simply because the range of dates I have to choose to consume it has been reduced. Anyone can make a mistake - but caveat emptor. The labels are there, if people choose not to check they can hardly complain if someone else hasn't either.
Yes I agree, anyone can make a mistake, and like you I would not expect to pay full price. However the point I make is that it is the seller's negligence and not the buyer's failure to check that the food was in date.
The maxim of caveat emptor does not apply to purchasing items from a shop that you could otherwise be expect to be brand new for immediate consumption and food is a perfect example. If that was not the case then I could quite legitimately sell you a 20 year old pork pie and then claim it was your fault that you suffered from chronic stomach cramps as the duty is on you to check that the labels on the food and not on me to check that the food I am selling is safe to eat.
Sex God
Quote by HimandHer
I wouldn't expect to pay full price for it - simply because the range of dates I have to choose to consume it has been reduced. Anyone can make a mistake - but caveat emptor. The labels are there, if people choose not to check they can hardly complain if someone else hasn't either.
Yes I agree, anyone can make a mistake, and like you I would not expect to pay full price. However the point I make is that it is the seller's negligence and not the buyer's failure to check that the food was in date.
The maxim of caveat emptor does not apply to purchasing items from a shop that you could otherwise be expect to be brand new for immediate consumption and food is a perfect example. If that was not the case then I could quite legitimately sell you a 20 year old pork pie and then claim it was your fault that you suffered from chronic stomach cramps as the duty is on you to check that the labels on the food and not on me to check that the food I am selling is safe to eat.
I don't know what it says in any legislation, but my 'common snense' feel for it is that it is a 50:50 thing. If a shop has sensible protocols in place to remove out of date products and one slips through by just a few days, I can't see any court convicting the seller.
Sex God
Yep and do quite regularly as well as eating stuff ourselves, If it smells ok its edible
i wouldnt buy out of date pet food nor would i give it to any of my pets
i never buy out of date food for the family and nor do i feed them out of date food
i have done extensive training on food safety (as part of my job) and im concious (sp ?) what it can do and how ill it can make people and im just as careful with my pets
i never buy out of date food for the family and nor do i feed them out of date food
i have done extensive training on food safety (as part of my job) and im concious (sp ?) what it can do and how ill it can make people and im just as careful with my pets
There is a lot of crap said about "best before" and "sell by dates" in the good old days there was no such thing and if it didnt smell right you threw it away and if it was ok you ate it plus there was no refrigeration in those have become too hyper about this and general cleanliness and our bodies dont have chance to build an immune system to germs so thats why people are always sick or feeling ill. Dont see many animals in the wild checking food for "sell before" dates if it dont smell right they dont eat it the same would be with domestic pets.
Grow your own food. No doubt about it's sell by, use by dates there 
Tastes better too.
As for the cats, stop feeding the little blighters. They'll soon find their own food :thumbup:
Hamsters are best wrapped in parma ham and cooked slowly in a medium heat oven. Feeding them muesli adds nothing to their texture or flavour.
Tastes better too.
As for the cats, stop feeding the little blighters. They'll soon find their own food :thumbup:
Hamsters are best wrapped in parma ham and cooked slowly in a medium heat oven. Feeding them muesli adds nothing to their texture or flavour.
Sex God
If I had been sold out of date food, I would take it back, simply cos I should not have been sold out of date food. Isn't it illegal? Maybe it isn't, not sure. But I would take it back.
As for what I feed myself and my animals. I have no qualms about drinking milk that is out of date cos it's been sitting in the fridge too long, as long as it smells OK. Out of date anything else - no problem.
However I WILL NOT give my dogs and cats meat (don't eat that sort of shit myself) or egss that are out of date. I used to, but not any more. Not since the day that I fed my dogs some out of date eggs (they love eggs as a an occasional treat) which were out of date by a few days. Next day I woke up to dog sick EVERYWHERE. You would not believe how much they had been sick. They were only ill for a day, but I was shocked. If dogs can get that sick, then anyone can get that sick.
So -- in answer to to whether I would feed a guinea pig out of date food -- absolutely NO WAY, they are sensitive creatures
As for what I feed myself and my animals. I have no qualms about drinking milk that is out of date cos it's been sitting in the fridge too long, as long as it smells OK. Out of date anything else - no problem.
However I WILL NOT give my dogs and cats meat (don't eat that sort of shit myself) or egss that are out of date. I used to, but not any more. Not since the day that I fed my dogs some out of date eggs (they love eggs as a an occasional treat) which were out of date by a few days. Next day I woke up to dog sick EVERYWHERE. You would not believe how much they had been sick. They were only ill for a day, but I was shocked. If dogs can get that sick, then anyone can get that sick.
So -- in answer to to whether I would feed a guinea pig out of date food -- absolutely NO WAY, they are sensitive creatures
Quote by AlanStone
There is a lot of crap said about "best before" and "sell by dates" in the good old days there was no such thing and if it didnt smell right you threw it away and if it was ok you ate it plus there was no refrigeration in those have become too hyper about this and general cleanliness and our bodies dont have chance to build an immune system to germs so thats why people are always sick or feeling ill. Dont see many animals in the wild checking food for "sell before" dates if it dont smell right they dont eat it the same would be with domestic pets.
in the "good old days" many people died from unexplained (at the time) illnesses, some testing has been done and it is now known that some died from eating food that had gone off !
so there is good reasons to stick to dates
your body cant build up an immune system to the bugs that make you sick if you have eaten food that has gone off !
Sex God
Quote by AlanStone
if it dont smell right they dont eat it the same would be with domestic pets.
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Sex God
Quote by Danne
There is a lot of crap said about "best before" and "sell by dates" in the good old days there was no such thing and if it didnt smell right you threw it away and if it was ok you ate it plus there was no refrigeration in those have become too hyper about this and general cleanliness and our bodies dont have chance to build an immune system to germs so thats why people are always sick or feeling ill. Dont see many animals in the wild checking food for "sell before" dates if it dont smell right they dont eat it the same would be with domestic pets.
in the "good old days" many people died from unexplained (at the time) illnesses, some testing has been done and it is now known that some died from eating food that had gone off !
so there is good reasons to stick to dates
your body cant build up an immune system to the bugs that make you sick if you have eaten food that has gone off !
Really? What they exhumed these poor souls and concluded they died from food poisoning? Sounds like rubbish to me. On top of that it literally does not matter if food is out of date or even bad as long as you cook it properly. Its the cooking that kills germs good or bad. Cook a piece of in date meat incorrectly and you can die. Cook a piece of rancid meat properly and you will catch nothing.
There was a prgramme on the tv where a guy ate nothing but out of date food for a period not sure if it was 3 month 6 months or whatever but he caught nothing.
I am also living proof that eating out of date food does not kill you
So why are so many people now living longer and to a grand age and from before the war and through it. They have eaten most things that we cannot now eat now because they are "bad for us" and they managed without the modern machinery i.e. fridges and freezers and "do gooders" telling us what is good and bad for us.
Quote by AlanStone
So why are so many people now living longer and to a grand age and from before the war and through it and have eaten most things that we cant eat now because they are "bad for us" and managed without the modern machinery i.e. fridges and freezers and "do gooders" telling us what is good and bad for us.
Coal fires....
Ventilated houses.... (both related to not having central heating or AirCon)
Rabbit...
Corporal Jones' sausages...
The list could go on. I remember as a child having whooping Cough. Rather than living life in isolation until it passed, my Mum called all my friends (I did have some then) Mums and they sent their kids over to 'catch' it. Best kind of 'inoculation' ever. These days, it's all about chemicals being pumped into kids from a very (too early) age to stem the flow of problem viruses and I think, at the end of the day, modern society is the worse for it.
Besides it costing the Nation an arm and a leg (sometimes literally, in later life!).
Sex God
Quote by AlanStone
So why are so many people now living longer and to a grand age and from before the war and through it. They have eaten most things that we cannot now eat now because they are "bad for us" and they managed without the modern machinery i.e. fridges and freezers and "do gooders" telling us what is good and bad for us.
Clean water.
Penicillin.
Absence of choldhood diseases.
Absence of malnutrition - although that is returning among the people who think chips and no fresh veg is a way to feed growing children.
The HSE act of 1974 (I know we mock the extremes but it works).
Bugger all to do with arbitrary and scaremongering dates which make no reference to the varying conditions in which food has been kept.
I've had in-date food that had been allowed to get warm and was off when I opened the packet and eggs that lasted WEEKS after the daft date on them. You can tell when eggs are off - they stink.
Nose and eyes are your best guides as to safety.
Like I said - do you trust the suppliers to give you enough 'safe' time without wasting perfectly good food or to reduce it artifically so you throw food away and buy more. I certainly don't.
Quote by tweeky
There is a lot of crap said about "best before" and "sell by dates" in the good old days there was no such thing and if it didnt smell right you threw it away and if it was ok you ate it plus there was no refrigeration in those have become too hyper about this and general cleanliness and our bodies dont have chance to build an immune system to germs so thats why people are always sick or feeling ill. Dont see many animals in the wild checking food for "sell before" dates if it dont smell right they dont eat it the same would be with domestic pets.
in the "good old days" many people died from unexplained (at the time) illnesses, some testing has been done and it is now known that some died from eating food that had gone off !
so there is good reasons to stick to dates
your body cant build up an immune system to the bugs that make you sick if you have eaten food that has gone off !
Really? What they exhumed these poor souls and concluded they died from food poisoning? Sounds like rubbish to me. On top of that it literally does not matter if food is out of date or even bad as long as you cook it properly. Its the cooking that kills germs good or bad. Cook a piece of in date meat incorrectly and you can die. Cook a piece of rancid meat properly and you will catch nothing.
There was a prgramme on the tv where a guy ate nothing but out of date food for a period not sure if it was 3 month 6 months or whatever but he caught nothing.
I am also living proof that eating out of date food does not kill you
i dont know, i didnt ask, it was mandatory training on a saturday and all i wanted to do was go home so its best not to ask questions because that prolongs the training !
however cooking doesnt kill all germs, that i do know, especially a particular bug that you can find in rice
i agree that it is important to cook food, especially meat properly (certain temps etc) but some germs cans till be there and make people/pets ill
