that sounds pretty serious could some1 have hacked your computer while you were on the site. if your with bt they can trace an block the number for u.. ring em they give you a code to enter after the persons rung an even if its a witheld number they cat bar it from calling you again..hope this helps..
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Just to add my bit of help...
What no-one seems to think of is that possibly the guy may actually work for BT in some way, and therefore has access to ex-directory numbers. If he's a member of SH, or just browses SH, he could have got her name - but how he'd find out where bailiffs live, and from there the phone number, I don't know.
Do the 118 companies have access to ex-directory numbers as well? I haven't got as clue.
To re-iterate on Shikukai - if you've got a Trojan, they would know that you use SH, and you may have typed in your home phone number for an internet delivery (I had to do that just this morning) of something else. Definitely check your computer for spyware and trojans, viruses etc before putting in any other sensitive info.
Hope this helps.
What no-one seems to think of is that possibly the guy may actually work for BT in some way, and therefore has access to ex-directory numbers. If he's a member of SH, or just browses SH, he could have got her name - but how he'd find out where bailiffs live, and from there the phone number, I don't know.
Do the 118 companies have access to ex-directory numbers as well? I haven't got as clue.
To re-iterate on Shikukai - if you've got a Trojan, they would know that you use SH, and you may have typed in your home phone number for an internet delivery (I had to do that just this morning) of something else. Definitely check your computer for spyware and trojans, viruses etc before putting in any other sensitive info.
Hope this helps.
This just highlights the potential dangers of having recognisable pictures on the internet. There is no way of telling just who is looking at the site and it is certainly not beyond the bounds of possibility that you will be recognised by someone you know who is just passing through as a tourist, has no real interest in the scene and therefore no responsibility regarding confidentiality.
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Anyway makes me think it could?? have been a newer member of the site that doesnt know Lou as well as some of us and hasnt bothered going through all her previous posts and seen her name, as I just did
This theory still leaves the fundamental question of how that person came by an ex-directory phone number that has never been posted here or, I assume, elsewhere.
If the number has indeed never been posted then that leaves only the quite likely possibility suggested by HornyRed - that someone recognised Lou and/or Col from the site and knows them well enough to get the home phone number somehow.
Perhaps someone who knows Lou well enough to have obtained the number surreptiously (given that Lou has already said the number is private to immediate family). One simple method would be to look up the number on Lou or Col's mobile phone whilst it was unattended or whilst 'trying it out'.
Slightly more far fetched, unless a friend works for a phone company - someone who knows first and last name of whoever the phone is registered in AND is able to illegally obtain the number from the company's database.
Given that the person must, on the evidence, be known to one or both of Bailifs, what was their motive? A cheap, nasty thrill at Lou's expense or to sound her out for susceptibility to the 'temptation' of meeting a single man on her lonesome?
I think Lou will need to consider going on anonymous reject as has been suggested. It helped me once get rid of nuisance 'silent' calls, but I had to pay. Worth trying to get it for free but I am not sure that the phone service provider will be much help unless the perpetrator persists beyond what he has done so far.
Blueis,
This still brings me back to a possible amateur hacker using SH's posts/chats etc, to obtain enough information to hack her system. Though this is only an assumption?
Firstly- The person used Lou's Alias name in contacting her, so someone that probably uses the site and is assuming that, that's her real name (Lou / Louise). Which it isn't.
Secondly- Lou has had various computer problems lately, her system freezing or crashing more often than it really should. This could have resulted in a hacker getting all the details he needed from Lou in her Posts / Mails, then getting into her email accounts using that info or worse still her system... They can then monitor order transactions for on-line shopping..etc. Where its a requirement to put you real name, address and contact number.... I'm thinking Trojan again.
Please guys, my original posts are not to question the legitimacy or integrity of most of SH users. Only to highlight my view and highlight the very possible dangers of internet fraud.... I'm gonna try not to reply to anyone else that questions my posts, though not sure if I can resist biting back again
This still brings me back to a possible amateur hacker using SH's posts/chats etc, to obtain enough information to hack her system. Though this is only an assumption?
Firstly- The person used Lou's Alias name in contacting her, so someone that probably uses the site and is assuming that, that's her real name (Lou / Louise). Which it isn't.
Secondly- Lou has had various computer problems lately, her system freezing or crashing more often than it really should. This could have resulted in a hacker getting all the details he needed from Lou in her Posts / Mails, then getting into her email accounts using that info or worse still her system... They can then monitor order transactions for on-line shopping..etc. Where its a requirement to put you real name, address and contact number.... I'm thinking Trojan again.
Please guys, my original posts are not to question the legitimacy or integrity of most of SH users. Only to highlight my view and highlight the very possible dangers of internet fraud.... I'm gonna try not to reply to anyone else that questions my posts, though not sure if I can resist biting back again
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Just to add my bit of help...
What no-one seems to think of is that possibly the guy may actually work for BT in some way, and therefore has access to ex-directory numbers. If he's a member of SH, or just browses SH, he could have got her name - but how he'd find out where bailiffs live, and from there the phone number, I don't know.
Do the 118 companies have access to ex-directory numbers as well? I haven't got as clue.
To re-iterate on Shikukai - if you've got a Trojan, they would know that you use SH, and you may have typed in your home phone number for an internet delivery (I had to do that just this morning) of something else. Definitely check your computer for spyware and trojans, viruses etc before putting in any other sensitive info.
Hope this helps.
this was my thought too, as lou said earlier only people close have her land number but what about banks? and other trusted companies we tend to give it out to, all it takes is for one employee who has been on here to have recognised lou going into the bank then accessed her details to get her number, its a worrying thing but it does happen, there was a case a while back totally unrelated to this where a member of the public was stalked by somebody that turned out to be a worker in her local bank and had all the details he needed to know about her at the touch of the keyboard, anyway bailiffs especially lou as you took the call, i hope you get it sorted soon ok. stay happy
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We used to get a lot of cold calls n such (none of them SH related)
I found a really simple way of stopping this is by contacting BT and asking them to have a call block on our line. (Im not sure if thats the exact term, I think its 'Anon call reject')
It works like this, it blocks all withheld numbers. Suddenly, my repetitive calls for double glazing, pavement resurfing, life insurance, romantic holidays, rug cleaning, customer care calls for products I've never bought, blah blah blah...have completely stopped.
Also, if someone rings me and hangs up, I can simply hit 1471 and do the same...(Ok, pathetic I know!)
We also have that extra bit of security. A well spent a month.
I found a really simple way of stopping this is by contacting BT and asking them to have a call block on our line. (Im not sure if thats the exact term, I think its 'Anon call reject')
It works like this, it blocks all withheld numbers. Suddenly, my repetitive calls for double glazing, pavement resurfing, life insurance, romantic holidays, rug cleaning, customer care calls for products I've never bought, blah blah blah...have completely stopped.
Also, if someone rings me and hangs up, I can simply hit 1471 and do the same...(Ok, pathetic I know!)
We also have that extra bit of security. A well spent a month.
If it's an ex-directory number, then it must be someone who you gave your number to at some time or another, whether it's an internet company, utility company or any possible job applications/forms.
The person must obviously have looked through SH, saw your pics and recognised you, so it must be someone you know to some extent or they couldn't have put 2 and 2 together.
That leaves it to be either friends, family, work colleagues or someone you've seen or has a picture of you from somewhere other than here, who also you gave your number to at some point. That narrows it down considerably, but I would take the advice of everyone here and bar the bastard.
Didn't you mention you were trying for modelling at some point in the past Lou?
The person must obviously have looked through SH, saw your pics and recognised you, so it must be someone you know to some extent or they couldn't have put 2 and 2 together.
That leaves it to be either friends, family, work colleagues or someone you've seen or has a picture of you from somewhere other than here, who also you gave your number to at some point. That narrows it down considerably, but I would take the advice of everyone here and bar the bastard.
Didn't you mention you were trying for modelling at some point in the past Lou?
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With the candlestick
In the ballroom
but then what the fuck do I know
With the candlestick
In the ballroom
but then what the fuck do I know
I agree with what everyone is saying about having witheld numbers barred, I have this through Telewest and it only costs £1 per month, plus I can switch it off and on as I please.
If you do find out who has done this this send him to a room full of SH women, who are brandishing tweezers and blunt instruments!!!! Doubt he will carry on worrying the cr** out of you then.
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If you do find out who has done this this send him to a room full of SH women, who are brandishing tweezers and blunt instruments!!!! Doubt he will carry on worrying the cr** out of you then.
Luv
Bustylady40 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
As someone who used to legally work on personal contact data as a db analyst (no it wasnt me who called Lou ;) ) there are a number of companies out there who gather phone numbers to names and addresses. This includes ex-directory, all you needed to do was enter a competition (for example) and not tick the 'do not pass on my details' box and your data was sold on. In fact we used to send DB's of incomplete data to these companies for name matching. All legal as you chose to give your details out.
Now other ways of getting an x directory number would include access to a 118 type db, for example I know that pharmacists can use a pin system in a medical emergency to get an ex-directory phone number. For example if you been given the wrong drug and they need to call you urgently. So the data is there, I assume these companies have some form of protection of it, but you can never be sure.
I would agree that you sound like the victim of a socialogical hack, using what you have revealed over time, and quite likely your photo to with a bit of trial and error work out who you were. However the rarity of using your home number means this is either someone who tracked your address (you ever give that out?) and got your phone number from that, or worst case as has been suggested a worm that has left your PC open to hacking.
Once there a hacker would see you visited SH (it would be in your internet history) and it would be easy to work out your username and thus contact you posing as someone who found you on SH.
A sick joke, get the number changed and if you worried contact the Police, no one has the right to intimidate you. Don't let someone use your lifestyle choices to embarress you and prevent you seeking help. Hope you get this sorted soon.
All the best TnH
Now other ways of getting an x directory number would include access to a 118 type db, for example I know that pharmacists can use a pin system in a medical emergency to get an ex-directory phone number. For example if you been given the wrong drug and they need to call you urgently. So the data is there, I assume these companies have some form of protection of it, but you can never be sure.
I would agree that you sound like the victim of a socialogical hack, using what you have revealed over time, and quite likely your photo to with a bit of trial and error work out who you were. However the rarity of using your home number means this is either someone who tracked your address (you ever give that out?) and got your phone number from that, or worst case as has been suggested a worm that has left your PC open to hacking.
Once there a hacker would see you visited SH (it would be in your internet history) and it would be easy to work out your username and thus contact you posing as someone who found you on SH.
A sick joke, get the number changed and if you worried contact the Police, no one has the right to intimidate you. Don't let someone use your lifestyle choices to embarress you and prevent you seeking help. Hope you get this sorted soon.
All the best TnH
Bailiffs - The only advice I can offer is to report this incident to your local police force.
They can assist with number changes, restrictions on numbers able to call you and liasons with your telecomms provider about tracing calls from withheld numbers.
Shikukai - I've been trying hard to bite my tongue at your posts....the only advice I can offer you is to show some maturity and common sense with the content of your posts about hacking!!!
They can assist with number changes, restrictions on numbers able to call you and liasons with your telecomms provider about tracing calls from withheld numbers.
Shikukai - I've been trying hard to bite my tongue at your posts....the only advice I can offer you is to show some maturity and common sense with the content of your posts about hacking!!!
I've just PMed this info to Bailiffs but its something worth thinking about for everyone else.
Your ISP has your number, Whether its ex-directory or not. i went through A bad patch a few years ago aNd found myself working in An out-sourceD call centre here On Teesside for a major ISP On their Broadband line. Every member of staff had access to email addys, passwords, landline and mobile phone details, addresses etc for the whole customer database. If you have given out the email addy supplied by your ISP, they would be able to find you. With the ISP that I worked for, this included their webmail facility as well. If you have given out the same mobile phone number as you registered with them, they would be able to find you. Not only would they be able to find you but they would be able to access and read all your emails as well.
Funnily enough, the same call centre operated a contract for a major mobile company. If you have registered the SIM card and included a landline number in your registration, then if you post your mobile number on here, they can find your landline number and personal details.
Worth thinking about next time you pass on your details to someone you hardly know. Its not just kids that need to be careful online you know!!!
Your ISP has your number, Whether its ex-directory or not. i went through A bad patch a few years ago aNd found myself working in An out-sourceD call centre here On Teesside for a major ISP On their Broadband line. Every member of staff had access to email addys, passwords, landline and mobile phone details, addresses etc for the whole customer database. If you have given out the email addy supplied by your ISP, they would be able to find you. With the ISP that I worked for, this included their webmail facility as well. If you have given out the same mobile phone number as you registered with them, they would be able to find you. Not only would they be able to find you but they would be able to access and read all your emails as well.
Funnily enough, the same call centre operated a contract for a major mobile company. If you have registered the SIM card and included a landline number in your registration, then if you post your mobile number on here, they can find your landline number and personal details.
Worth thinking about next time you pass on your details to someone you hardly know. Its not just kids that need to be careful online you know!!!
