So how about if they are only available through the munches?
I'm not keen on having my address known to the world and his wife, so this would be an ideal way of distributing them, what do you reckon?
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So how about if they are only available through the munches?
I'm not keen on having my address known to the world and his wife, so this would be an ideal way of distributing them, what do you reckon?
Sounds to me to be the perfect test, especially if the munch is set up as steveg_nw is setting up the NW meet - sound security and bona fide attendees. (Have to be careful if it wasn't though).
If I'm really honest, I can vouch for the validity of the test because as someone who has not attended a munch I wouldn't and shouldn't get one - although I would dearly love one. Between you and me I'd love to come to munch but can't because Mrs TE is not 'tuned' in as it were - and so it is quite right that I should remain on the outside.
Still, I hope those on the site will not think of me as an alien because I am very empathetic to all the really genuine friendly people on the site. (God I've just re-read this - pass the sick bag someone - but I do mean it :!: )
I don't know if this has been gone through on this site before, but the idea has arisen and been debated before. It is actually a good idea, and it would be useful. But as far as I can tell, every time it gets close to being done, people realise that the benefits are probably outweighed by the sort of dangers that Thomas pointed out.
But, time change and things move on. There may be a way of doing it. Not with pins or badges, but with electronics. The technology exists now to do recognition electronically. I don't know what can be done with Bluetooth phones for example, but it seems that the Toothing business (reported somewhere on this site a few weeks ago) may be close to what we need.
Might it be possible to agree a code word, or a 4 digit number? Then people program their bluetooth phones to detect other phones with that code. If this can be made to work, its more discreet than pins or badges, its easy to turn on and off. It would also be a lot easier to get out of without embarassment if the wrong person found you with it. "Good grief, what a wierd coincidence, I had no idea that number meant anything like that."
Red Baron
But, time change and things move on. There may be a way of doing it. Not with pins or badges, but with electronics. The technology exists now to do recognition electronically. I don't know what can be done with Bluetooth phones for example, but it seems that the Toothing business (reported somewhere on this site a few weeks ago) may be close to what we need.
Might it be possible to agree a code word, or a 4 digit number? Then people program their bluetooth phones to detect other phones with that code. If this can be made to work, its more discreet than pins or badges, its easy to turn on and off. It would also be a lot easier to get out of without embarassment if the wrong person found you with it. "Good grief, what a wierd coincidence, I had no idea that number meant anything like that."
Red Baron
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I can imagine the situation where you're in the pub - you key in the number and every phone in the place goes off :!: :!:
MUNCH :!: MUNCH :!: MUNCH :!:
MUNCH :!: MUNCH :!: MUNCH :!:
Sex God
Hmmmm, I'm not into new fangled ideas. I would prefer a badge 
Then again, I suppose even badges were "new fangled ideas" once upon a time :shock:
Then again, I suppose even badges were "new fangled ideas" once upon a time :shock: Okay - I have done some research into this.......
For a company to make us 500 enamel pins in the 3 colours will cost a total of including tooling costs, manufacture, shipping and VAT making an end price of each.
For 1000 the total cost is making an end price of each.
This makes the cost prohibitive in my eyes to go for a personalised pin. However we could go for an off the shelf one and they can be as low as each. Only problem with that is what if some poor innocent is wearing the badge and you walk up and say - "Hi, see your a member of Swinging Heaven - wanna shag" and promptly get yourself arrested........
Think this one is gonna die as an idea from the pin standpoint.......
Any other ideas?
Fred
For a company to make us 500 enamel pins in the 3 colours will cost a total of including tooling costs, manufacture, shipping and VAT making an end price of each.
For 1000 the total cost is making an end price of each.
This makes the cost prohibitive in my eyes to go for a personalised pin. However we could go for an off the shelf one and they can be as low as each. Only problem with that is what if some poor innocent is wearing the badge and you walk up and say - "Hi, see your a member of Swinging Heaven - wanna shag" and promptly get yourself arrested........
Think this one is gonna die as an idea from the pin standpoint.......
Any other ideas?
Fred
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I think an off the shelf design would definately get us into trouble :shock: . What about a normal everyday badge, rather than a posh enamel pin type one?
I think an off the shelf design would definately get us into trouble :shock: . What about a normal everyday badge, rather than a posh enamel pin type one?
Sex God
Having promised to research the pin thing I am gratefull to Fred for doing what I have miserably failed at. As penance I have slammed the old todger in my desk draw three times whilst vowing never to promise but not deliver.
Until such a time as a decision is made I would urge those of you that come to Hertfordshire to be on the look out in the bars and pubs for a mid forties couple who are swinging their right foot in a circular pattern whilt drawing imaginary sixes in the air.
Until such a time as a decision is made I would urge those of you that come to Hertfordshire to be on the look out in the bars and pubs for a mid forties couple who are swinging their right foot in a circular pattern whilt drawing imaginary sixes in the air.
Why those robbin so and so's 
I'm still waiting on a quote
probably be a very similar price tho :(
So where do these charity people get theirs from, you can get em for a pound
Next best thing will be to bide our time and then pounce on the first 'pin maker' that registers to this site :twisted:
OR :idea: :idea: we can all join metalwork evening classes and make our own :lol2:
I'm still waiting on a quote
probably be a very similar price tho :( So where do these charity people get theirs from, you can get em for a pound
Next best thing will be to bide our time and then pounce on the first 'pin maker' that registers to this site :twisted:
OR :idea: :idea: we can all join metalwork evening classes and make our own :lol2:
Now I may not be aware of the subtle differences between this and that type of badge, but these ones seem to fit your criteria pretty well:
Depending on the quality (printed with epoxy cover, or stamped with soft or hard enamel, whatever that might mean
), a bag of 250 3-colours 25 mm pin badges cost between £210 and $282, VAT excluded.
I don't think they are the cheapest ones. Check out as well. The "soft enamel" type seems to be what you're looking for.
In fact I found a whole directory of specialised companies there:
Seems affordable to me. I'd be glad to pay 2/3 pounds for a badge ad long as its design remains rather confidential ! (now how I would convince you to sell me one is another matter... :D )
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Thomas xxx
Depending on the quality (printed with epoxy cover, or stamped with soft or hard enamel, whatever that might mean
), a bag of 250 3-colours 25 mm pin badges cost between £210 and $282, VAT excluded. I don't think they are the cheapest ones. Check out as well. The "soft enamel" type seems to be what you're looking for.
In fact I found a whole directory of specialised companies there:
Seems affordable to me. I'd be glad to pay 2/3 pounds for a badge ad long as its design remains rather confidential ! (now how I would convince you to sell me one is another matter... :D )
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Thomas xxx
Hmm, late entry into this...
We had some great badges courtesy of the wonderful IcePie to wear to the Croyden Munch. Didnt get a second glance from 99% of the world and the rest thought we were a tour group.
The principle is sound, I have been in a number of organisations that use badges and yes a custom badge is prohibative on costs, but remember this is just a 'I use a site badge', not 'take me I'm yours'. Knowing that misunderstandings should be easy to avoid, even with an off the shelf design.
For example, if you see our badge on someone, you can casually drop in conversation have they seen the SH site. A member would instantly understand SH = Swinging Heaven, anyone else would give you a blank look, no harm done...
As such I dont think we should write off the 'standard' designs so quickly.
Other Idea re selling:
Selling only at Munches is one idea, but they wont be many legit ones out there. Few hundred at best. Lets sell them through the site if we are going to do it, there can be a slight profit on the site sold ones and this can hopefully cover free badges for munches.
Maybe we can have 3 designs, all same theme, small oval of some sort etc, but on different background. Blue for site purchase, red for munch purchase, white for 'honary' given at munches by admins to best posters (and obviously worn by admins). All say SH, just a bit of fun in the design and gives somthing we can present.
We had some great badges courtesy of the wonderful IcePie to wear to the Croyden Munch. Didnt get a second glance from 99% of the world and the rest thought we were a tour group.
The principle is sound, I have been in a number of organisations that use badges and yes a custom badge is prohibative on costs, but remember this is just a 'I use a site badge', not 'take me I'm yours'. Knowing that misunderstandings should be easy to avoid, even with an off the shelf design.
For example, if you see our badge on someone, you can casually drop in conversation have they seen the SH site. A member would instantly understand SH = Swinging Heaven, anyone else would give you a blank look, no harm done...
As such I dont think we should write off the 'standard' designs so quickly.
Other Idea re selling:
Selling only at Munches is one idea, but they wont be many legit ones out there. Few hundred at best. Lets sell them through the site if we are going to do it, there can be a slight profit on the site sold ones and this can hopefully cover free badges for munches.
Maybe we can have 3 designs, all same theme, small oval of some sort etc, but on different background. Blue for site purchase, red for munch purchase, white for 'honary' given at munches by admins to best posters (and obviously worn by admins). All say SH, just a bit of fun in the design and gives somthing we can present.
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what happens if while your at your school re-union, the office Xmas party and you bump into a close family member or boss wearing the same signal !!!
You just smile and wink - you're on the same side of the fence
:wink: 
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If I'm really honest, I can vouch for the validity of the test because as someone who has not attended a munch I wouldn't and shouldn't get one - although I would dearly love one. Between you and me I'd love to come to munch but can't because Mrs TE is not 'tuned' in as it were - and so it is quite right that I should remain on the outside.
Still, I hope those on the site will not think of me as an alien because I am very empathetic to all the really genuine friendly people on the site. (God I've just re-read this - pass the sick bag someone - but I do mean it :!: )
Hey someone else in the same boat as me
Don't stress mate you're not alone.So did this subject go any further or did it die on it's butt?
I'd love a badge just to say I use the site and I support an individuals right to choose to do whatever they want as long as everyone consents.
On the subject of selection we could have a black-ball system (like the masons?) where the mods view requests from people that use the site, but are unable to attend munches. 1 black-ball = no badge.
I think this is a really good idea, i mean, you cant go up to someone and say "Hi, i'm a swinger, do you enjoy it as well??" (Not that i would do that though, but you get my drift)
So i think a badge is a really good, subtle idea!! Whatever's decided Daz and i would be prepared to buy one!
So i think a badge is a really good, subtle idea!! Whatever's decided Daz and i would be prepared to buy one!
Sex God
Maybe we should have a duck emblem in honour of our randiest member (Carpatians duck). :idea:
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Maybe we should have a duck emblem in honour of our randiest member (Carpathians duck). :idea:
God, don't inflate his ego any more than it is already !! He's had quite the air of the gentleman duck about town to his waddle since the NW-2 munch.
On secind thoughts, it would mean you can look at somebody elses badge and get away with saying:-
"Fancy ! A duck !"
Sex God
Well done to Easy for resurrecting this one. I had done the same in ClarenSteve's thread "If Only They Knew".
Sex God
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can we have a car sticker too please!!
Something like
Swingers do it................. ;)
:lol: 
Warming the Bed
Rather than a round badge. We could have a pin in the shape of a pendulum.
for what it's worth (not much i know) but i think that the pins should be made available through the they were only to be available at munches then certain groups are being as members who may not be in a financial position to go to munches,people that don't want to be seen in a social setting as a swinger,people who can't make them through other commitments,and then there's the category that i fit into:-no munches in my area(south wales)
Sex God
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for what it's worth (not much i know) but i think that the pins should be made available through the they were only to be available at munches then certain groups are being discriminated.
Availability is quite a difficult one. I think it was fully explored earlier on this thread.
Whilst the Duck and the pendulum are great ideas - I think one important priniciple here is that it doesn't attract too much attention (Duck) and it is not self explanatory (pendulum). The need for something discrete but recognisable by those who know, I think was also aired above - can't quite remember.
Sex God
I've just thought of a name for these - The Mini-Munch Badges :!: Boom :!: Boom :!:
Sex God
I've done some browsing and it looks like we can get enamel lapel pins in up to 4 colours for around 3 to 4 quid each if we buy in bulk.
I was thinking something like the design on the right side of the webpage banner would be nicely discreet but recognisable to members:
If you remove the cross and the arrow, it could mean anything.
I was thinking something like the design on the right side of the webpage banner would be nicely discreet but recognisable to members:
If you remove the cross and the arrow, it could mean anything.
Sex God
This looks good. I think I would agree that the cross and arrow should come off. Thomas did some research on prices, which were cheaper but I'm not sure about the quality.
