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Should there be an opting out scheme?

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Don't go to Canada. Gay men cannot be donors there.
Windpipe replacement using stem cells. Rejection improbable, cancer a reasonable likelihood though. New tech.
HIV therapy good ?
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I knew one guy who died. He stopped taking the meds. His life was made so miserable by the side effects.
As to organ donation. No. Especially by coercion. And it is coercion. How many are NOT going to want to be donors but put-off carrying the NO card ?
As for personal preferences, I will not accept transplantation as a way of ME extending my life. What others do is up to them. The choice, for me, after MY death is left to my relatives.
Myself and my son are on the register. I beleive that anything they can salvage would be welcomed by someone who can be saved. My son made the choice a long time ago and came to me about it. We discussed it and he figured if your dead it doesnt matter. He is 13 now.
I know that if the time ever came for me to make the decision for someone i love it would be difficult but its not a case of not wanting them cut up... anyone that has lost someone close will know that many people are cut up anyway to find out why they died, even those that have died in hospital. That personal choice is taken away so why not while they are in there take a few bits.
I Saw a program where people donated thier whole bodies and they were left to rot in different circumstances to see how they reacted. I dont know i would go that far though! although i realise the need for it. (I think thats been mentioned already)
I have previously donated eggs which is a long winded painful and drawn out procedure where females have to have a procedure to have them harvested, we dont get paid as men do for thier sperm donation lol and up until recently i have given blood. I feel if i have something someone else can benefit from and i dont need it then they may as well have it.
It is down to personal choice but i think people are lazy and forget to register, always something they will do tomorrow. I think families feel a guilt when asked and it shouldnt be anything they should have to decide at a time of upset.
Im too fat to give bone marrow smile dont think they would want it now anyway lol
Jus xx
More organs are lost through apathy and/or ignorance rather than direct refusals.
I'm in favour of the opt in way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting out.
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More organs are lost through apathy and/or ignorance rather than direct refusals.
I'm in favour of the opt in way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting out.

Then that's opting out isn't it?
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as the government eventually came to the conclusion... organ donation is a gift. not a duty. yes it's sad that people on the organ donation register have to wait, but that is no reason to make it so that people have to go to effort to say they DON'T want to be cut up before they die. there's something fundamentally wrong with having to ASK to be buried in your natural state, all organs included.

I don't think anyone is buried in their natural state. They're usually pumped full of dyed formaldehyde and all their organs are sucked out with a special instrument that causes little surface damage - that is unless they have been removed in an autopsy or for a transplant. But I take your point.
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Quote by Peanut
More organs are lost through apathy and/or ignorance rather than direct refusals.
I'm in favour of the opt in way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting out.

Well that's opting out then isn't it?
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as the government eventually came to the conclusion... organ donation is a gift. not a duty. yes it's sad that people on the organ donation register have to wait, but that is no reason to make it so that people have to go to effort to say they DON'T want to be cut up before they die. there's something fundamentally wrong with having to ASK to be buried in your natural state, all organs included.

I don't think anyone is buried in their natural state these days. They're usually pumped full of dyed formaldehyde and their organs are sucked dry by a special tool that causes minimal surface damage. That is unless they've been removed in an autopsy or for a transplant. But I take your point.
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More organs are lost through apathy and/or ignorance rather than direct refusals.
I'm in favour of the opt in way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting out.

Well that's opting out then isn't it?
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Huh?
Quote by Peanut
More organs are lost through apathy and/or ignorance rather than direct refusals.
I'm in favour of the opt in way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting out.

Well that's opting out then isn't it?
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Huh?
Have to admit it has me slightly confused.....Not difficult I know redface
Should it read
I'm in favour of the opt in way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting IN.

dunno
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More organs are lost through apathy and/or ignorance rather than direct refusals.
I'm in favour of the opt in way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting out.

Well that's opting out then isn't it?
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Huh?
Have to admit it has me slightly confused.....Not difficult I know redface
Should it read
I'm in favour of the opt in way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting IN.

dunno
Or alternatively..
I'm in favour of the opt out way of doing things. If people are so concerned about donating organs then they shouldn't have any problem opting out.
P'raps I should've been as polite as to say 'Huh?' :dunno:
I suppose it is just another step along the road.
Assumed consent first. Then automatic consent, even if non consensual. Then removal before death to improve the chance of success. The removal before illness or accident OR death because the recipient has loads of cash and power.
Meanwhile, hospital-caused deaths still rise (yes they do)..............
The stats on long-term survival are not that good, despite much better immunosuppressive drugs and better techniques.
Sewing a guys own arm back on is not exactly transplant surgery, more re-attachment surgery.
Advice ?
Don't have surgery on a Friday !
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P'raps I should've been as polite as to say 'Huh?' dunno

What you do or don't do is totally up to you.
As for the question in hand, when I used the "opt out" phrase it was meant to mean that people who want to opt out of the default opt in scheme are quite free to do so.
See it wasn't so complicated now was it?
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P'raps I should've been as polite as to say 'Huh?' dunno

What you do or don't do is totally up to you.
As for the question in hand, when I used the "opt out" phrase it was meant to mean that people who want to opt out of the default opt in scheme are quite free to do so.
See it wasn't so complicated now was it?
Not if yer conversent in intermittently inverse English. Very poor use of the word opt methinks. However, thank you for the translation. wink
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