A few weeks ago, someone gave me "the glad eye" Don't worry, I picked it up and rolled it straight back to her.
This is actually a serious question.
Do you still vanilla date?
I don't mean the Saturday night pub/club hunting and chasing. I'm thinking more generally.
I haven't stopped flirting. I still look with an admiring eye when I see somebody attractive/appealing, but seem to stop short of actually pursuing a date opportunity.
This has come to a head for me personally becauseI actually noticed today that I didn't respond to the same young lady again this morning, in a way that I would have done previously.
There have been other occasions when I've asked myself this question, like in Tesco or a truckstop or MSA, but today; it hit me like a wet kipper round the face. Possibly because if I do have a "type" - this girl fits it to a T.
So - my question is, Do the singles that are actively involved in the swinging "scene" still actively look for dates outside swinging?
I ask it of both males and the girls.
Disclaimer: No - the search button is not my friend. Whenever I search for something; I always get 376 pages. Too much for an old fart to trawl through.
Being a relative newbie, I'm still looking for dates etc outside the swinging scene, but whether I'll stop looking or look less as time goes by.... time will tell.
i say date her
you div
if you like her and she likes you
what you waiting for
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Is it OK for me to have a serious moment ???
I think alot of people come on here in the hope that they will meet a real partner.
I think this is true of men and women !
If you get to the stage where being on here is all you want.......... and u move from one person to another......... without any sort of feelings................. then u must be cold !!
I dont think cold is good......... but if cold does it for you....... then u have to be honest with whoever u r with........ swinger or non-swinger !
So, I suppose I am saying U should do what makes u happy without hurting others on your way !
I ask for dates....but I get nuts !
I have dated and also done the ocasional "chat up" but...
I have always admired a couple that swing and do it correctly (the couple who were my "teachers (1)" are still together and still very much in love and a couple and that in a way is a point that I have missed (swinging aside) in my non-swinging relationships.
I have also swung as a couple, so have experienced things from the other side where someone I love(d) was with someone else and I was with another, or we were both with the same single.
Since seeing it from the couples POV I would not want a non-swinging relationship, and one of the first things I say during the tipical "chat up;" "getting to know you..." or dating is who I am... I'm a guy that swings... Its hardly "coming out" in the sence that I dont feel a need to tell my mum, but then again I dont need to tell my mum I like to have sex, lol, but to me I'd rather come out with it there and then, and have the person say "I'm just going to the toilet" and never see them again; I have asked the pub owner to nail the window in the girls toilets shut but hes adimant he wont, lol! (thats may be jokey, but its not far from the truth, lol)
I enjoy being exhinitionist and voyeristic so swinging does allow me to enjoy both of thoes, I am also Bi sexual (not bi-emotional) and have in the past hidden that side of myself and not partaken so to speak, when i've been in a "standard" relationship.... so again swinging can when things are right allow me to explore and enjoy that side of myself and not have to hide it when in a commited relationship. It does so piss me off when a woman can be "bi" and no one batts an eyelid and a straight woman wont worry that she will suddenly be attacked by a "carpet muncher" when they know the other woman is bi, but couples assume a bi guy in a couple, or guys in general assume, that a bi guy will try to jump them... like hang on, talk about an inflated ego! bi guy=they want my arse, like yeah as if, lol.
But a simple question such as "would you vannila date" is not as simple as its first stated! there are so many variations... My personal response would be, "yes..." but by the end of the first date they would know; then it would be up to them if it made it to a second date and if it may progress to a sexual relationship in the future.... I would rather loose the second date or the sex than be in a situation where I had to play away or end up 6-12-48 months down the line when I want to swing or be more open and not say anything because I dont want to loose the person im with... and lets face it, if thats the case it will go tits up at some point in the future, or you have to live your whole life as a lie!
Yeah I still vanilla to be honest i prefer raspberry ripple :shock:
i'm vanilla dating tonight, she's lovely, and she has a look in her eyes that suggests she'd be into this sort of shennanagins, but if she's not, she's still lovely.
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Now what a thought provoking post. Do I vanilla date.
I have over the past year gone to meetings with people with no thought of getting a date. A few times my mates have said (afterward) that one of the ladies I was talking to had been chattin me up. I thought that I had just gone daft in me old age and just didn't read the signs. Now I think I that after being here and meeting a few friends that maybe my subconcious had ignored the vanilla meets on offer.
I'd rather think I am going mad heheheheheheheheheh
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Excellent thread Dammie. And a thread I am compelled to post on, especially today.
I have only had two vanilla dates with guys in about 12 years. I had my reasons, and certain circumstances come into it, but it's been a long time.
I am curious to know what it is like now that I am older, wiser and in search of something particular.
My main attraction to dating - and one I have only recently discovered - is that I want to go out for the night and meet single guys with no expectations, no assumptions that we will have sex. I want to meet real men, and not boys, men who are willing to accompany me to a pub/restaurant/club/family do without fear of being caught, or seen as too 'couply'. All this NSA is all good and well but there really does come a time when sex , and rarely good sex at that, is just not enough. I want more. I want respect and affection, I want a man to stay the night and have a leisurely breakfast, not leave when he's done. I want romance.
I haven't wanted it up till now, but along with my personal needs, I feel the quality of the men I have had the stupidity to shag on here (I make very few exceptions) has contributed to my recent decision. It came about after a weekend of one letdown after another. Bang Bang Bang. Enough is enough. I think I am worth more than that.
I will stay for my fabulous friends, and the friends I have yet to make. But I will only actively swing again as a couple, if I find a man who wants to try it. It has scarred me somewhat, to be honest, I need to stop meeting boys (convincingly disguised as men) who have no idea how to treat a woman.
So Dammie. You have given me the opportunity to tell the studmuffins on here that I ain't playing. I'm going vanilla. i love the smell anyway. Very summery.
Sorry dambuster for the hijack.
Easy bring it on........................
I have been on the scene for 4 years now, and using swinging heaven for meets for most of it, although only a recent member to the forum. Had various vanilla relationships all which came to nothing.
I mainly got into to the scene through being bi curious, and was a single at the time. People i have met through this site and others and also in clubs have helped me to understand myself and my sexuality and become more relaxed as a person.
I met what i thought was a nice guy on the scene , we swung for a while, felt compeltely relaxed and trusted him implicitly. Thought if we can be open and have fun like this, id never have to worry about any infidelities etc. BOY WAS I WRONG!!! Still couldnt keep his cock in his pants, still felt the need to have an affair.
I have always known on some level that I could never have a monagamous relationship, and being able to swing I thought was the perfect answer, best of both worlds. Now im not so sure about either.
I could go on vanilla dates and have done since, but would always have to be upfront about my lifestyle, cos hiding it would only lead to trouble.
I have made some great male companions and 'fuk buddies' through the scene, who i can go out with, have a laugh, a meal and the fun side of things, and hopefully one day I will meet someone who I can have a relationship with and continue to swing.
This whole issue is very complex, and I do think once you have tasted it you probably wont be able to give it up, i know I cant!!!!
Well hope i havent gone to deep and bored you all to death.