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Should the profile of St. Georges Day be raised?

In these days of politically correct Britain under President Blair where you can be Scottish, Welsh, Irish or any other nationallity except English, do you think the profile of St. George's Day should be raised and celebrated as a national day?
St. George's Day is on April 23rd, so, in a sense, this is England's national day. However, unlike other countries, England does not have celebration to mark this occasion.
We have the ridiculous situation where the Irish national day (St Patrick's Day) is celebrated and pubs are allowed extensions to their opening hours, when extensions have been refused for St. George's Day because it is stated to be of not enough importance :!:
How many of you will be flying the Cross of St. George and wearing a red rose on the 23rd April?
ME!!!!!!!!!
But then again it is my birthday on the 23rd too!
I used to live abroad and St Georges day was celebrated in great style with local Dignitaries and much merry making. All in all an excellent occasion.
The Welsh, Scots and Irish used to have a shindig on their respective national days but it was never as good as ours! :taz:
So my vote is a definite YES
Mr and Mrs davej will celebrate it in true English style and take on the guise of Bunty and Pip, jump on our cycles with a bottle of good old Ginger Beer for refreshments and cycle along leafy country lanes (singing 10 green bottles) to the local tea shop for some delicious tea and Scones for lunch, before spending a pleasent afternoon riding on a steam train.
Ah what fun and giggles we shall have.
Chins up pip pip cheerio
St Georges day falls on one of my rest days this year, so me and a few of the lads wil partake in a couple of bevvies in the afternoon. :cheers:
We sincerely hope that you will be drinking a dark ale warmed with a poker from the fire whilst admiring the colection of horse brasses hanging from an oak beamed tobacco stained ceiling, instead of one of those new fangled Europeon lager type beers Mr F.C.
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I used to live abroad and St Georges day was celebrated in great style with local Dignitaries and much merry making. All in all an excellent occasion.

Yep, I've experienced that. I was working in South Korea and on St Georges day a couple of hundred ex-pats were invited to a garden party at the British Embassy in Seoul. A very lavish spread and free everything. :beer:
We do still know how to fly the flag, just not it seems in this country.
Steve
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In these days of politically correct Britain under President Blair where you can be Scottish, Welsh, Irish or any other nationallity except English, do you think the profile of St. George's Day should be raised and celebrated as a national day?
St. George's Day is on April 23rd, so, in a sense, this is England's national day. However, unlike other countries, England does not have celebration to mark this occasion.
We have the ridiculous situation where the Irish national day (St Patrick's Day) is celebrated and pubs are allowed extensions to their opening hours, when extensions have been refused for St. George's Day because it is stated to be of not enough importance :!:
How many of you will be flying the Cross of St. George and wearing a red rose on the 23rd April?

Bugger President Blair,
If the Scots, Welsh and Irish can have their national days so can we. It's about time we kicked up and said so. I will be flying the Cross of on the 23rd. Despite an edict from the local council that prohibits it. I won't however, be wearing a red rose, not since Blair and his henchmen adopted it as a Labour emblem.
Harry0
My family have been Engish since the 9thC. Not many people know that. lol
It always seems silly to me that the English celebrating St Patrick's day when they have no Irish connections at all, but don't celebrate St Georges day. I think the reason may be something to do with the fact that people have been made to feel that showing pride in being English is something to be ashamed of. This has been because of the hi-jacking of English symbolism by the likes of BNP et al.
So to counter these half-witted idiots (my words and I'll stand by them) lets use St Georges day to celebrate all that is good in modern day England-the fact that I believe we are a multi-cultural society and use it show all these different communities exist together in our great like an anti-facist day,though maybe a bit strong.
My daughter,though by quirk of law is French and I shall be celebrating Bastille Day is that unpatriotic or what?
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It always seems silly to me that the English celebrating St Patrick's day when they have no Irish connections at all, but don't celebrate St Georges day. I think the reason may be something to do with the fact that people have been made to feel that showing pride in being English is something to be ashamed of. This has been because of the hi-jacking of English symbolism by the likes of BNP et al.
So to counter these half-witted idiots (my words and I'll stand by them) lets use St Georges day to celebrate all that is good in modern day England-the fact that I believe we are a multi-cultural society and use it show all these different communities exist together in our great like an anti-facist day,though maybe a bit strong.
My daughter,though by quirk of law is French and I shall be celebrating Bastille Day is that unpatriotic or what?
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You stay on that soapbox, Sigo, if that is the type of thing you believe in!
I agree with you entirely (especially the bit about being unpatriotic - just kidding)
WELL SAID SIR!!!!
Articifer shows his patriotism on St Georges Day..
Fine beard sir!
And a thank you Ms Peel biggrin
davej,
I Only drink Ale when I'm out and the pubs that I drink in tend to be old, open fires and very homely.
nice head MrFC rotflmao
Dawn :silly:
It must be a GREAT BIG YES from me,i wish some of the politically people would just F**k off.A lot of regiments within the Army celebrate St Georges day so should the rest of do it when there is a major football or rogby tournament on,i remember well watching world cup games with people who were really behind their team, the English team.
People should be proud be English as much as the Scots,Welsh and Irish are in the celebrations of their national saints day.
Well said Tongue, yes I remember celebrating when in the Army very proud to be English!
Changing the subject for a mo!
NICE T**TS DAWN! biggrin :D
i concur MrFC a very nice pair indeed and very tasty too.
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have to agree about St georges day, we will fly the flag from our window at home
and have to agree about Dawns tits...they wont b flying from our window unfortunatly!! lol
Very good Man Alive,do you think i could get 1 of those frames from B&Q or Homebase ???
St Andrew's Day is celebrated well in the Bonnyland but I think the Yanks have cracked it. Last April I was in New York (Brooklyn Heights for those who are interested) and on 06 April they have Tartan Day... me and 6,000 men in kilts marching up 6th Avenue was fab (in the rain!!)
It's the anniversary of the Declaration of Abroath (1320) which is a very historic day in the life of the northern lot and the Yanks use it to push Scotland as a tourist destination.
Men in kilts, men in kilts and Cat boots.... deja vu!!
lol
I wasn't going to post on this thread (for reasons which may become clear) but decided I ought to. After all, 23rd April is also Shakespeare's birthday - and the anniversary of his death too unless I am much mistaken. How neatly arranged is that? True genius. worship
Okay - serious bit now: :jagsatwork:
I think the Scots, Welsh and Irish are patriotic on their saints' days because England has tended to be the dominant country and this gives the others a feeling of oppression. Hence, 'flying the flag' becomes a matter of pride. A way of remembering that they are a nation too. By contrast, flying the English flag has been made to look arrogant. Then, of course there is the fact that it has been hijacked by racists and football hooligans (and, yes, I do appreciate the difference between fans and hooligans).
I am actually not much of a flag waver, but I AM proud to be English, just as I believe that the Scots, Welsh and Irish should be justifiably proud of their heritage. So it would be nice to reclaim the symbols of England from the nutters. We shouldn't let a mindless minority make us ashamed of our nationality. Why not celebrate April 23rd for TWO reasons. St George's Day and the Bard's Birthday. We could recite texts from Shakespeare in the same way that the Scots recite Burns on Burns Night. 8) It might also introduce his glorious language to a wider audience. Now there IS a good cause. :bounce: Though I will admit to being slightly biased! redface
I'll get off my soapbox now!
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Oi!!!
(Lend me your soapbox Will......)
I'm proud to be English, very proud, and shall celebrate St George's Day. However, I agree with Will, and will celebrate in a modest, restrained sort of way. It will be a jug of Shropshire Lad and a plate of roast beef (I actually celebrate St George's Day several times a week).
I really love England, as I've said before, so won't go into that again. However, like Will, I'm sickened by the hijacking of my heritage by the yobs and oafs. I'm not of any particular political persuasion, but I strongly resent the claiming of the 'Red Rose' by Mr Blair's party (I suppose Lancastrians would counter, with good reason, that it was actually their symbol, but that is a complicated one). That said, there is still so much to guard, cherish and admire in the country itself, and in it's heritage. The man who has most ably summed up England, warts and all, is Bill Bryson; he got it spot on, has come back to live here, and is American.
I also agree with Will about Shakespeare. To me , he is the 'Greatest Englishman' -despite the BBC poll (the same BBC polling mechanism that put 'Vicar of Dibley' ahead of 'Fawlty Towers'!).
I wear a flat cap, my house is a 'baseball cap free zone', my offspring are 'children', I wear tweed jacket, moleskins and Oxford Brogues to town, Twickenham is hallowed turf, I like warm ale and dislike lager, I can still speak in my local dialect, my ancestors have never strayed more than a few miles from here, I detest 'upward intonation' (with a vengeance), I wish no-one harm, I will be shit on by no-one, I believe in fair-play, I believe in everyone's right to completely disagree with me, I will vote for a party pledging to ban 'trick-or-treat', I look forward to the cricket season from about Christmas, I would eat grass from the verges before I would eat 'McDonalds', I believe that an English Spring is the pinnacle of everything, everything that is except a full 'English' breakfast,
I dislike shops being open on Sunday, I buy local food, the highlight of my year is the return of the swallows, I love Tallis and Vaughan Williams, I love to fish on english rivers, I love the English poets.
So, plenty for folks to take the piss out of there.
I'm a bigoted, anachronistic, rustic old fart.
That's worth waving the Cross of at.......
Here, Here!
The swallows arrived here a few days ago - I thought they were a bit early. Got dive bombed today by one whilest walking the dog.
Well, this is a post I am glad I started biggrin , I thought I may open a debate, and am glad it's stayed on topic!
I was a Royal Marine for 9 years, would have done my 22 except I was injured twice on active service, and ended up being invalided out with a pension.
I am imensly proud to be ENGLISH - I fill any forms out with English as my nationality, not British, I attend Falklands Memorial parades, and Armistice day parades, where I am proud to wear my medals gained in the service of the crown. I am able to, some of my friends are not, and will always remain 21 years old in my memories.
I used to go to the Royal Tournament before it was stopped as being non pc! I adore the band of HM Royal Marines playing sunset and the evening hymn, which I will have played at my funeral.
I am a royalist, and traditionalist, seen by many to be old fashioned, so what I say.
I fly the cross of St. George on my house, and had a garage remove EU number plates from my car as I'm anti-europe, what have they ever done for us!
I think I shall subscibe to 'This England' magazine and take up membership of the Society of St. George :D
President B Liar (NOT A TYPO) can shove his labour rose up his arse, I will wear mine as a symbol of England, with pride.
The flag of St George will be flying from Bilko Hall on the 23rd of April and I too care not what the local council think.
Unlike the others I love football and was almost in tears watching the patriotism during Euro 96. The sight of Wembley Stadium packed with flag waving Englishmen singing their hearts out was a sight to behold. The last night of the Proms also has the same effect.
I am proud to be English but I admire the way the Scottish, Welsh and Irish celebrate their Saints Days. If we are ever going to change the way we, the English, celebrate St Georges Day then it is up to us that do care to get out there and make ourselves heard.

What is wrong with our country???? Why is it so politically incorrect to be called English? when you are allowed to be Irish, welsh and scottish??? :shock:
I am ENGLISH, and i am staying ENGLISH, I am not Bristish, or even European
Anyway, Deb's breasts are very nice..... as are mine for a BBW.........very firm wink
ttfn
MINI
Dear God, Arti's post was the written equivalent of looking in a mirror! :shock: Could this be the long lost twin my mother tells me of, from whom I was separated at birth?
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I strongly resent the claiming of the 'Red Rose' by Mr Blair's party (I suppose Lancastrians would counter, with good reason, that it was actually their symbol, but that is a complicated one).
........which we can discuss at great length sometime 8)
I was going to answer all of your other points in turn but thought it would be a tad tedious for everyone else, so you have a PM.
On one of my sojourns in Shropshire we MUST meet for a drink or ten. In a proper (i.e. non-themed) pub, that serves proper beer, with an open fire (if it is winter).......you know what I mean. We will easily recognise each other. I will be the OTHER bald chap in a tweed jacket and Oxford brogues drinking real ale from a jug.
Sappho darling, I am afraid you will be on driving duty, but I promise to make it up to you afterwards! :twisted:
Will