I also think a lot of it has to do with the fact that a lot of todays young have absolutely no respect for their elders or anyone in authority.....they really think they are untouchable.....they know they have so many rights on their side, and that it makes them almost invinceable.
They are scared of no-one....their parents (IF they care at all) teachers, police, even other adults who say anthing against them are abused and injured, they know they are above punishment.
Its a sad fact that the lunatics have well and truly taken over the asylum.
And if anyone thinks by my comments that i dont like kids, i have 4 of my own from age 4 to 14, and i am genuinely afraid for them, but torn between wrapping them in cotton wool, and letting them learn from the real world, but i guess that all part and parcel of being a responsible parent.
In St John's market in Liverpool today, there was a tee shirt with a hand gun on it and the words "here is the mother f*cker dealer"
WTF?
All sorts of conscience arguments will be developed about this topic. Social problems, family problems and so on. respect, attitudes ad infinitum, everyone has a theory. These have always been there and will continue to be.
What's very different is the availability of weapons. And the culture that comes with them. After all an army is useless without weapons.
The manufacturers of the weapons should be held accountable for every weapon they make, or limit; or even cease such productions.
How long before we hear about small explosives being used to wipe out a roomfull of gang members? Grenades? mines? Small rockets?
We do discipline our children(and to hell with anyone who try's to tell us we cant) although we stop short of the viscious beatings that some poor kids receive but Oh how I long for the days when a copper could clip a kid round the ear and send him home to his dad to return.
I think a lot of it is to do with the justice system being too light.
IMHO any one found to be carrying a knife should get 5 years no matter what the excuse and if they carry a gun 10 years.
If they use them then double the sentences to to 10 and 20.
May seem a bit harsh but thats what I think.
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Good topic to discuss Miss Cream as it seems to be getting worse. But I do think when the media finds a common thread that is going to get people tuning in and buying newspapers it tends to report every single case where it might not have done so before. Not that negates the criminality of each case or the terrible grief it leaves each family effected to deal with.
Following for the comments made about that children should respect their elders I think this respect has to be earned. This country has little respect for children or young people and makes little effort to include them in society. Perhaps this has something to do with why young people get in trouble.
From my own experience with a toddler most people would mow him down in the street rather than take the time to walk round him or say hello when he waves at them. This may seem really simple but this disrespect for children cannot help matters.
Just my thoughts.
We always had guns in the house when I was young. One of my jobs was to clean them. I was told to respect them. I have never used one to break the law. In fact apart from looking down and see I am going faster that the limit I do not.
I say teach children respect for others and property. If they have not learnt by the time they go to prison it is too late. If they become persistent, it's time to consider hanging.
I too feel very scared for my childrens futures. I would like them to grow up in the world that i grew up in. Think it is long gone. Ok so we still had trouble makers and fights but at least whoever came off worse only had a black eye, now they would be lucky to live to tell the tale.
It just annoys me when parents don't give a sh*t. I feel god damn sorry for the parents who try their god damn hardest to keep their kids on the str8 and narrow but they rebel against it. I've seen it with my sister.
:bounce: ) but one of the judges was the small child from the final of Britain's got talent competition... A man in his mid 50's took a picture of her and I must admit to being concerned as to why he wanted the picture 
