The evolution of swinging

We found what the op said very interesting.  We have been in "the scene" for about 14 years.  In that time we have seen HUGE changes.  When we first started it was not with this site and then found this one after a year or so.  When we joined we discovered a lot of like minded people that were happy with chat about darkest kinks and also do with respect and with humour.

Over time this has changed dramatically, now we find that a lot of the humour has gone and people are only after a "quick shag". Socials/munches used to be full on weekends lol. We used to take over hotels and travel all over the Country to attend these. Quite often these never ended in a shag but a lot of fun was had and great friendships were formed (these friendships are still strong and we all still chat to one another, albeit through normal social media now lol)   

Do we miss these times, yes, we miss the fun, we miss the kinkiness and in some ways the secretiveness of being a "Swinger" now in someways it is the norm! lol 

Agree with tigersgobounce (we went to a lot of the same socials as you guys), we also think that the younger ones who are now going to swingers clubs are mainly with established friends and go to (mostly the women) pose and show off in lingerie.  Think Xtasia club has realised this and is now doing events which cater for that. Which suits the layout of the club, which is in fact an ex-nightclub.

The socials we go to have as, as tigers said, become as open as a social from the stamp collectors club.  In the old days, it was "don't let on this is a swingers party" and anyone found playing will be thrown out, these days it's "the management know we're all swingers" and just be discreet with your playing.

All things change !!

                                                  John & Shel

it's not so much a subject while its more open its still by a lot of people though of as kinky, .... why do people say I have to keep this separate form my job

I have to say we have found that people have tried to bring this into the open more times than we have had hot dinners and failed.  In the "old days" we did a lot of meets and parties, made friends, had fun and spent time with those that became friends......  We babysat for one another, we trusted one another, kept in touch (to this day some of our best friends were people we met swinging!) and the fun was in the friendship and forum and the swinging came later.

We had other friends who thought they had "worked it out" and kept dropping hints.  We challenged them one day and asked them what was worse, finding out we were not swingers or finding out we were swingers but just did not fancy them - they were extremely put out! - (we never did have a play!)

There are many jobs which would be frowned upon if people found out you were part of the swinging community - imagine bumping into the vicar at your local swinging club - but so long as people respect one another's privacy, ask for permission before taking pictures etc then there will be less stigma attached to the act of swinging - but I have to ask this - why would you want to tell people who are not in the scene what you are doing - after all, they might not understand?  Some of our friends know, many do not.....  We prefer to keep it that way.

Respect one another and keep it shtum - those in the know need to know, every one else is best kept in the dark!  Best advice we can give...........

Fred & Wilma - At it in secret since 2003!

It is definatly becoming more open and mainstream.....only other day I say Vanilla alternative ( swingers club ) offering a two night stay and entry into the club on Wowcher !!!  They sold out within two days !!  I think in the same way as at one time if you said you were Gay, it was looked down on as some sort of sexual deviancy....but now its like yea.. so what...loads of sport stars and pop stars have come out etc... and no one really bats an eyelid....So I think, if you say you going a swingers club...people will just say yea...have a good time. It won't be for everyone....but neither will it be looked on as frequented by sexual perverts ....it will be just another form of entertainment avialable to the masses.

Tiggers that response is spot on. Times change I suppose and annual munches became regular socials and that brought it's own issues of familiarity. Would live to revisit a good old fashion Munch again!