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I know I don’t post here much, but I lurk a lot! biggrin (and have met some nice guys through this wonderful web site :P )
I have a question. I’m certain it’s not a new question, but your thoughts on this would be nice.
What do you do when you fall for the ‘other man?’ I’m in an open relationship, I won’t say I’m a swinger, because he doesn’t have sex with anyone else, I do. We have agreed this and up until recently, that is what I wanted. But I think I’m falling for one of my guys/friends whatever you may call them. I want to be with him more than anything. The trouble is that he could not cope with me staying in this lifestyle, and I have been so free for so long, I’m not sure I would be able to keep to his ideal. Also, there is the obvious thing about my man who I love, or at least thought I loved. Has anyone else experienced this? I would appreciate a chat.
not sure what the answer here is , but i feel for you.
good luck with what ever happens xxxx fem xxxx
Thanks Fem smile I suppose I just want to talk to someone about it really.....and I can't talk to my friends because they don't know what I do.
I'm sure it will sort itself out. It's just a bit of a shock to me because I'm normally the fuck 'em and leave 'em type. they know what they are after, and I know what I want. This time it's very different and he is very special :)
flippin' ek, I would be better off without a heart! rolleyes
im not sure if it makes it easier if they feel the same or not??
i have fuck buddies who i care deeply for but defo do not love and would probally hate them in a relationship, however there is one guy who i recently met who i want all the time, im keeping my cool and not letting on at all as i have never had this happen to me before, and im sure its not what he wants to hear. maybe its just lust , but i have thought to say not see him again incase i get head fucked but i just cant pull away.
good luck xxxxxxxx fem xxxxxxxxx
Head fucked is exactly how I'm feeling!
Oh dear, you too! I suppose it is one of the risks you take when you play this way.
I should have taken your advise because I DID say something. I feel he likes me too, but I know he doesn't like what I do (or that I am with someone else). For his sake, I feel I should let him go because he is younger than me and I will probably fuck him up big time (I have history confused ) but I can't. Is that selfish?
Someone come on here and tell me to pull myself together because I'm begining to feel like a bloody teenager and not the 40+ woman I am! :P what next? spots?!? lol
hi berks bex if you got feelings for the other guy which are stronger than the feelings fir your regular guy you must go with whatever your heart says or else you could end up resenting your other partner and start arguing for no reason at all or you could end up on your own even woirst im afraid hun only you could make your mind up on this one but be carefull as you dont end up resenting both i wish you well as its a hard choice but most of all enjoy life and have fun on the way life is to short treat everyday as its your last because one day it will be all the best les happy swinging x
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Someone come on here and tell me to pull myself together because I'm begining to feel like a bloody teenager and not the 40+ woman I am! :P what next? spots?!? lol

Pull yerself together girl!
(done.. as requested! (tongue in cheek))
It seems like you don't know whether you're just feeling lust and really enjoying the sex/whatever with this other guy, or if you're in love. That sounds like you need some more time to know your feelings on this one, maybe take a break and see how you start feeling? Consider how well you know him/them and if you would really want more than you have at the moment with the 'other guy', at the expense of the current one, including non-sex stuff (maybe you already have more, I don't know you didn't really specify)
I'm not in any way, shape or form an expert on anything to do with this, so please don't go holding my thoughts as law (just a disclaimer cos I don't want to fuck it up for you) but that's my tuppence worth.
Simple answer: That's the time to stop. It's natural, it usually happens, it's usually fantasy. Your regular partner is predictable - where's the magic and mystery in that? The trick is to use the experience of magic and mystery you get from swinging as flavouring for the love life with your regular partner.
There's other options of course, total disaster included. You could ask yourself some hard questions (the answers at this stage might not make any difference but . . . )
Do you really love your partner?
Do you want to risk everything (and going off with your new lover risk the possibility/ probability that the novelty will wear off soon)?
Do you want to make it work with your partner - if so, what are you going to do about it?
Is the swinging lifestyle for you? (It's not for everyone).
Human answer - you're in a bind and don't know what to do. All the good advice in the world will probably not mean squat, especially if you are gripped by passion and uncontrolled emotion. And who is anyone else to give advice? You might go against all common sense and it could turn out to be the match made in heaven (unlikely, but quite possible). You have to work it out yourself, but the scenario sounds quite common - it's similar to just having an affair. If you've a close friend who's been swinging for a while try talking it over with them.
Good luck {hug}
x
It sounds like what you are saying is all in your head right now. Unless you talk to the other guy you may well be imagining more than is necessary.
Unfortunately this is the 'other side' of swinging.
can't say as i have come across this myself, i have never fell for any of ther guys i meet i am totally happy with my husband, (we both meet as a couple and as singles) and because i am happy i don't even look at guys i meet in any other way than what it is.....sex, however if i did ever feel like i was falling for someone i'm pretty sure i would stop seeing them b4 i got in to deep.
I'm sure you will work it out smile
I'm not sure whether this is necessarily a swinging question. Surely this could happened anywhere where you would have met other people, with or without your husband - anywhere from a workplace to a tennis club.
But anyway, there are no easy answers - I feel for you, and hope that in time, with good advice from friends you trust, and taking time to think things over for yourself, you will reach a happy solution.
Mike.
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I know I don’t post here much, but I lurk a lot! biggrin (and have met some nice guys through this wonderful web site :P )
I have a question. I’m certain it’s not a new question, but your thoughts on this would be nice.
What do you do when you fall for the ‘other man?’ I’m in an open relationship, I won’t say I’m a swinger, because he doesn’t have sex with anyone else, I do. We have agreed this and up until recently, that is what I wanted. But I think I’m falling for one of my guys/friends whatever you may call them. I want to be with him more than anything. The trouble is that he could not cope with me staying in this lifestyle, and I have been so free for so long, I’m not sure I would be able to keep to his ideal. Also, there is the obvious thing about my man who I love, or at least thought I loved. Has anyone else experienced this? I would appreciate a chat.

sounds like you need to try being a little monogamous, i think you have been got by this
youre like a kid in a candy store....youve tried some and want more.....
as a great couple were swinging with, say.......enjoy it while it's there...and when you leave...close the door..and leave it behind....
i think thats the whole point ...enjoying the moment....it's when you want the moment to last...or make up for what you have...is when things do start to go wrong...by judging what you have ...with what you had for a moment........it's just sex.....make it anything more....then you may as well be having an affair.....you dont need to swing to do that...
unless that was youre escape..route...and doesn't help when youre partner doesn't do it ...either.....because if he's not enjoying some part of it...then it becomes, all about you...
you could lose it all......is it worth it!....(hope i aint been too harsh)
Run --- run for the hills bolt
Then join the borg collective :borg:
innocent
lol....too late she's already been assimilated!.......resistance is futile.....
mmmm
In a case like this take notice of what your brain says and do not listen to your heart.
A Heart can be broken but the brain lives on.
Thats the best I can sugest.
Good luck whichever way you go. xxxxxxxxx
Fred
You poor thing confused
Maybe a bit of time out would be useful biggrin
Can you spend some time with either family or friends, away from the people concerned :?:
Looking ahead, who would you most like to be with a year down the road :?:
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What do you do when you fall for the ‘other man?’ I’m in an open relationship, I won’t say I’m a swinger, because he doesn’t have sex with anyone else, I do. We have agreed this and up until recently, that is what I wanted. But I think I’m falling for one of my guys/friends whatever you may call them. I want to be with him more than anything. The trouble is that he could not cope with me staying in this lifestyle, and I have been so free for so long, I’m not sure I would be able to keep to his ideal. Also, there is the obvious thing about my man who I love, or at least thought I loved. Has anyone else experienced this?

In my opinion you shouldn't do anything yet - I highlight your indecisiveness because that is the issue. You shouldn't throw away a relationship on a whim, you barely know this other guy (in comparison to your long-term partner) and at the moment I presume you can only really base the relationship on the times you meet for sex - which is nothing like domestic life, eh?
However, what caught my eye was the fact that you say you 'thought' you loved your partner.
I have been there myself. Personally I wonder if you really do still love him. I think this other guy is pointing this fact out to you. Sometimes we don't like to acknowledge loss of love because it brings so much heartache, most of the time. But when someone else comes along who we really, really like - our feelings shine through and we cannot escape the truth.
I kept the truth from my longterm partner for far too long - about six months - and constantly lusted after another guy, agonising over what to do. Eventually I could hide it no more and we split, horribly, with a lot of pain, because I had hidden my feelings for so long. But I didn't start a new relationship with the other guy - I stayed single.
My point is that, if you don't mind me saying, I think you are maybe not in love with your partner any more. I think maybe a bout of freedom may help - some time apart perhaps - so that you can clear your head and figure out what you really feel. Because getting involved with a guy who has the potential to make you feel trapped will not help either.
Keep it casual. And try to be honest with your partner - he will thank you for it, in the end.
I hope this is helpful....having been there myself I wouldn't wish what I went through on anyone.
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What do you do when you fall for the ‘other man?’ I’m in an open relationship, I won’t say I’m a swinger, because he doesn’t have sex with anyone else, I do. We have agreed this and up until recently, that is what I wanted. But I think I’m falling for one of my guys/friends whatever you may call them. I want to be with him more than anything. The trouble is that he could not cope with me staying in this lifestyle, and I have been so free for so long, I’m not sure I would be able to keep to his ideal. Also, there is the obvious thing about my man who I love, or at least thought I loved. Has anyone else experienced this? I would appreciate a chat.

I haven't experienced exactly the same thing but similair. My current relationship is the result of an affair. I had only been married for just over four months when i got back in touch with an old friend. I had always been very close to this person and thought nothing of crashing in the same bed and we had fooled around on occasion. Although he had always wanted a relationship with me I was never interested. Then when I saw him again at a friends party I was suddenly over come with emotion. I realised I loved this person but I had went and got married - what could I do?
Now this bit may sound a bit callous - For the next couple of months I mulled over the situation. I loved my husband - I married him and I always thought marriage was for life. Did I really love my friend? or was I just panicking after getting married? I started to see more and more of my friend on a social basis. It felt like we had never lost touch, the only thing that had changed was the fact that he had grown up and became much more self confident. At this point I didn't tell him my feelings but kept asking him a lot of leading questions to find out his outlook on life and to decide if we would be compatible long term. The more I talked to him the more I wanted to be with him, and he re-awakened the fun loving side of me. I found myself becoming more and more outgoing and comfortable with myself.
At the same time I was still with my husband. I was re-evaluating our relationship all the time at this point, how he made me feel, how I felt in myself when I was with him, our socialising, what my life would be like long term if I stayed with him. During a lot of soul searching I realised that in general I wasn't very happy. My self confidence and self esteem was fairly low. My husband didn't really encourage or support me when I was feeling low. I was becoming more and more withdrawn from friends and we hardly ever went out socialising together. Our sex life was crap, he was never very good in bed and no matter what i tried to show him what I wanted it didn't work. I have always had a very high sex drive but had resigned my self to a life of crap, missionary position sex and then maturbating to climax afterwards.
I realised I had made a terrible mistake getting married. I was trying to fit in with what was expected of me instead of what would make my happy. I loved my husband to bits but wasn't in love with him. I was in love with my friend. I knew he was the one that could make me happy.
This is the point I was at in my head when I first broached the subject with my friend. He admitted he still loved me but didn't want to break up a marriage. However once our feeelings were out in the open we couldn't hold back. We did start an affair while I was still working out what to do. If I left my husband would I lose friends, family, my home? If I started a relationship with my friend would others except my relationship? would we be financially secure?
The more time I spent with my friend the more disillusioned I was with marriage. All I seemed to do with my husband was argue. The relationship with my friend was going from strenghth to strength. I could talk to my friend openly about anything. We discovered we have very similair sexual tastes and fantasies. My sex life with my husband non existent.
After about six months I could go on no longer. I knew who i loved and asked my husband for a divorce. It was one of the hardest things I have had to do. But it was worth it.
I am now happier than I have ever been. I have a wonderful life with my partner. We have the most amazing sensual, kinky, loving, dirty sex life, one which neither of us had dreamed possible. I have a new group of friends who are more like family and can trust and rely on for anything. We are starting a new business together. I have more confidence in myself and am opening up to others in a way i have never been able to do before. Life is grand.
It took a lot of soul searching for me to get this far. I kept my feelings to myself until I had most things worked out in my head - that way I didn't fuck with my partners head. This is how things worked out for me. I hope my story helps and you make the right decision for you.
Les x
Hi all
Pete here (must get around to starting my own account on here)
Every now and then a thread like this pops up, and if I was being totally honest, I would have to admit that they do scare me a little.
I recognise that everyone has their own reasons for being a part of this lifestyle, and I suppose for the sigelies among us it’s a bit different, but speaking as a couple, we had to do some very serious heart and soul searching before we decided to commit to the lifestyle, and even then we got it wrong to begin with.
For us the swinging scene is an enhancement to our emotional relationship, it gives our physical relationship extra zest, and it helps us to make new friends, but underpinning all that is a massive raft of trust, love, and mutual understanding of our needs. To cheat on one another is just totally unthinkable.
Now in case you are thinking that I am coming over all holier than thou please believe me when I say that is not my intention, but if you are a couple into the swing scene, surely certain promises have to be not only given, but religiously kept?
I realise that we are all human beings, with all the weaknesses that are so inherent in our species, and that it can happen very easily that certain chemistry between two people, chemistry that can either grow with time, or be there instantly, the minute your eyes meet, but is that not exactly the time when you need that strong self discipline to turn away? To say to your partner, hey, I think we may be developing a problem here? And then do something about it?
As someone has already said, is the thrill of new excitement with someone you don’t really know as well as you know your partner, really worth throwing everything you’ve worked so hard for away?
The new excitement will quickly wear off and you might just find yourself in a place where you really do not want to be.
Sorry about the long ramble, just my honest opinion.
Xx
Pete
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The new excitement will quickly wear off and you might just find yourself in a place where you really do not want to be.
Sorry about the long ramble, just my honest opinion.

Spot on opinion too Pete.
Swinging is not dating. As a couple we swing. We have nsa sex with other people and the important thing is the nsa. If either of us felt any sort of attatchment to the people we play with, other than normal friendship, then we would no longer see them. We have far too much invested in a long and happy relationship to risk it by starting an affair.
Also, I'm not sure that I would seek the opinion of people that I had met only through the internet and not in real life to help me with an important emotional issue since they would know very little about me or my circumstances.
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Swinging is not dating. As a couple we swing. We have nsa sex with other people and the important thing is the nsa. If either of us felt any sort of attatchment to the people we play with, other than normal friendship, then we would no longer see them. We have far too much invested in a long and happy relationship to risk it by starting an affair.

Once again northwestcpl i find myself agreeing with your every words lol :lol:
Extremely tricky situation and I feel for you.
I'm sorry if this seems unhalpful, but as a guy I can't help putting myself in the situation of both the men involved here and feeling much more sympathy for your current guy than for the 'other man'.
Your current guy has allowed/accepted your sleeping with other men. It will be a bitter pill for him if you use that freedom he has given you to fall for someone else. Is that what he signed up for?
Apparently your 'other man' can't - or won't - cope with you staying in the lifestyle, and you doubt your ability to conform to his ideal. Your 'other man' wants you to stop doing the very thing that enabled you to meet him. You are currently struggling to stay within generous boundaries, yet are considering submitting to much stricter ones?
If I was that other man, I honestly hope I would break it off with you for the sake of your current guy because I know how I'd feel in his shoes.
Again, apologies if that doesn't feel very helpful - just my thoughts which you are of course free to ignore.
darkeyedphil,very well said.
im actually single, in a ideal world id meet a guy that was in to the same lifestyle and we'd swing together, or singulaly but with knowledge.
i dont do jelousey, its a futile emotion and hurts only your self. i wouldnt if in a relationship ever go back to a guy outside of that relationship if i felt feeling's for them more than lust.
im talking a load of babble so ill leave it there.
good luck
xxx fem xxx
Thank you for all of your replies. My reasons for posting were really just to get it off my chest and maybe just to see it in black and white (or black and blue here!) Also, I was feeling very low in the early hours of this morning and the bottle of wine was empty…..I went against my own rules, never post drunk! rolleyes smile
There are some very wise words in this thread. It is amazing to see how common this is, though I suppose with our lifestyle it’s an occupational hazard! And looking at the replies it is something that most swingers consider before they take the plunge. I have not felt like this before though with any of my other male friends. They come and go, some are still around and I have seen them for a few years, but they don’t quite make me feel the way he does. As an added complication, he’s almost half my age! :shock:
It’s not a just a sexual thing. This new man is making me realise what I have been missing for a long time with my regular partner. He is romantic, caring and attentive. Maybe it’s just that kind of attention I’m craving, who knows. And yes, as has been mentioned it may well wear off (and probably will, I have never had a relationship that lasted over 7 years), but for now I just feel confused. Without going into details my partner and I have been on dodgy ground for a while anyway….
My current position is that I will probably be single soon. Both will get fed up and I will be on my own! lol Best solution all round maybe. confused as i am such a screwed up head case right now.
Thanks again for reading my personal ramblings….I now have to go and undo the damage I did last night! :P
Strangely enough swinging can present even more stringemt rules and commitments than ordinary marriage. Detracting from the laws of swinging can result in even lower self esteem than bog standard cheating.
join the foriegn legion biggrin
Hi berksbex,
Bear in mind that there are other ways of doing 'relationships' - Just because society tells us that we have to be monogamous, doen't mean that we have to be.
Obviously swingers are 'over monogamy', in the general sense of not being jealous about sexual matters, but there is another way to have relationships with more than one person which does include love.
It's called polyamoury (polyamory in the US). This is a way of living where relationships CAN exist between several people at the same time.
Some people find that they can love more than one person at a time, and some people can't. I don't know how helpful this reply is in your case, but hopefully it's food for thought.
Best of luck!