Pikers - seeing as how I do re-enactment, could that be pikes, a 20 foot long weapon from the 16th and 17th centuries - never knew there was a sexual angle to using one....
And now to Deirdre Saunders.... Not so long ago, this piece of kak was telling a couple who thought that their daughter was gay to get her to go to counselling.
Huh?
So that's another life screwed up because someone can't get their brains around an alternative lifestyle.
Paul, my connection dropped as I was replying so I am glad that Fred got in with an explanation - and I appreciated your response too.
Generalisations are never a good thing - but are sometimes inevitable.
There are two HUGE things in your favour (and a small third one):
1. You are an active member of this Forum who makes intelligent and entertaining posts of your own. That puts you into my first category of "intelligent, thoughtful and caring people".
2. You have already made the point yourself that you read the Sun for its sports coverage and that you "feel the shame".
My comments, though a generalisation, were aimed at those who fit into neither of the above categories. Enough said?
The third small thing is that you are close enough to meet up for a beer. Interested?
Yeah, I've just got that e-mail from 'Kate' too! The emap offices are only just round the corner from me, shall I go give them an arse kicking?
Love Chris
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Just thought I'd give you my reply to 'Kate'!
"How can I put this? Erm.......FUCK OFF! Our lifestyle isn't a topic of national debate, it is what we get up to in our own private lives, and nothing to do with anyone else. Exploring our sexuality is not a crime, nor should it be percieved as such. Sex is a natural, beautiful thing, whatever the circumstances. So take a hint, and leave us good people alone, ok?"
]Love Chris
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The Sun is actually very subversive
It is written by well educated intelligent people who deliberately dumb down and sensationalise in order to sell more copy. The Stan story is a classic. Football, great fallen idol , (read Gazza, Best, Maradonna et al) plus sex, plus sleaze, plus "innocent " girlfriend, plus recently appeared to be reformed = great copy. They dont care that they continue to perpetuate the myth that sex is a sordid dirty affair...until anyone DARE poke fun at Page 3!
The frightening thing is when it steps into topics that really affect people. People actually believe much of what is written. Anyone who has ever been a victim of journalism knows how much the truth is sacrificed for good copy. Refer back to the recent thread on here for an item in a swinging magazine.
There are moral rights and wrongs with much of the swinging lifestyle. I am in the stable of anything between two or more consenting adults that hurts no other person is ok, but dont ever expect that to come from the Sun. Unless of cours the Mirror argued the opposite.
Should it worry us? Yes because we may get troublemakers on the site. Yes because people will believe the whole thing. Yes because people will agree with the Suns angle.
Stan Collymore did absolutely nothing wrong and now all his family are subjected to an exteremly embarrassing time. But have any of us the capability to help him and support him. I wish I could , but unfortunately it is difficult for me to come out of the swinging closet.
Lets hope that one day the swinging lifestyle is able to come clean like the gay lifestyle has over the last century (and lets hope it happens a bit bloody quicker!!) and then Stan, who lets face it has had his fair share of problems with depression and his aggressive difficulties, and people like him (ie us!) can get on happily with our lives.
If your reading this Stan...any chance of a couple of tickets for Villa v Man U !!
I saw the Sun and the Mirror and this Story was in both of them. The kind of people who buy these papers do so for these kind of stories! after all Celebrity Get Me a Life has now finished and the people who watch this trash have nothing else to gabble about.
God forbid if these papers started covering anything important their readers would be deserting them for the Beano and Dandy in their troves!
As for Dierdrie she comes over as a Frigid B..ch, who wouldn't know a good SH..G
Oh yeah! collymore another has been celebrity!!!
know I have had some emails in last 2 days that just say want fun just deleted them as think they could be fakers........
Colloquial slang:
guy who sits in car and performs manual pleasuring upon himself.
(just another no-bottle drive-by)
Poetry in motion indeed Heather! However, I have followed up my e-mail to the good lady, as I think I was rather abrupt with her, and didn't mean to be offensive- had been a bad day at work! I realised that she was only doing her job, so thought I should apologise,
But won't be dogging anytime soon!
Love Chris
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Will,
Surely you have a duty of care to her to post your entire reply to her as it is above.......
Go on - dare you! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Fred
In my personal experience these mags tend to get an rough outline of a story from you, then totally disregard everything you have said and make up something completely different.
I have been in a story in CHAT mag and it was about as far from actual events as possible, and was not flattering to me at all. Grr!
Yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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) but this is an issue that really got my goat...
) I can never resist a dare.....