Just to help make things clear, the latest Police reports are that he was a suspect they had been following who was challenged and ran. Whether or not he was armed, he certainly wasn't an innocent victim and the decision to take him down if he was believed to pose a threat would probably have been taken long before he ran from them.
There are unconfirmed reports that he was the Oval bomb suspect, though the description I heard sounds more like the bloke from the Number 26 bus. The police have released CCTV stills of the four suspects, htey're available on the BBC website.
He was approached on the London Underground, apparently concealing an object, then legged it, was given orders to stop, didn't, and quite deservedly got shot in the head 5 times.
If they tried a body shot, he could have easily still set the device off if it did exist.
The fact he isn't connected to any bombing activity isn't relevant - its his own stupid fault for not stopping.
To quote Saskia, "end of".
Hi Guys
No it is not a cop out at all. I think its harder to stand up for peace and to turn the other cheek.
In my past I belonged to organisations that saw violence as a solution to the worlds problems. I realised that as I keep saying that violence just breeds more violence.
If it makes you feel better Fabio so have I, loads of times, and I am white I just seem to catch the Police's eye. This is rapidly (and nothing to do with your post mate) becoming a 'race' issue which is what Al quida want. In my office people who I never thought of as anyone other than collegues start saying I am muslim and asian so I am being targeted... They feel we are all out to 'get' them and unsafe to walk down the street.
This man was shot for one reason, they thought he was carrying a bomb! Not because he was asian, but his behaviour, his cloaths and the thing he was hiding... He could have been white (I understand we are allowed to be Muslim as well), Asian, Black, Chinese, or any mix in between and the result would be the same. To say otherwise is madness.
If this was the US then this could be any copper making this call. In the UK few carry guns and they are very highly trained, they are not assisns, they do not do this for fun. If the Police killed this man they did so to save their lives and those around them. They now face a long investigation, in this country we do care when a life is lost. People do not 'dissapear' here, the Police are not murderers or terrorists and the last thing they want is to upset a community, any one.
Finally in this mini rant (for which I apologise in advance) I hear on the radio that we are the terrorists for killing a wedding party in Iraq, so this justified us being bombed... Bollocks... The difference is Terrorists kidnap an innocent man, torture him over days, torture his family watching him, and murder him. We make mistakes in war, we apologise to victims and prosocute and punish those who made the mistakes. We TRY not to hurt the innocent, the terrorists TRYTO HURT THEM!
I can't understand why people cannot see the difference. We are ashamed where innocents are hurt or killed, terrorists are proud.
I know all about dark humour, I have worked long enough with the emergency services. But seagul mate I don't think making light of people in this thread is a good plan...
As for turning the other cheek you have the right to turn yours, these Police were trying to save everyone elses...
Seagull you seemed to have got the back up of some well established members,their opinions i regard much higher than before you say "I'm allowed an opinion", i think you are just baiting here!
okay... so we are now 36hrs later from the last post on this thread.....
and we now know that instead of this guy being of a potential suicide bomber, he was an innocent 27yr old brazilian national who had been in no trouble here and living legally for the last 3 yrs...
and where the police said that at the time it was "a part of the ongoing enquiry into the attacks"....... now are saying that "it was in no way connected to the investigation"
what do we make of it all..... why did the police "mislead" the general public??? how could they get the surveylance so wrong that it lead to this???
i just wondered if your views had changed in light of what we were all originally told....
my deepest sympathy goes to all of the families involved... the one who was shot and the police who fired the bullets.......
sean xxxxxxxxx
If he was wearing a coat, acting suspiciously, and ran from the police, he was a potential threat and had to be stopped.
Head shot was the only option.
Put yourself on that train for a sec. A man charges onto the train, 3 men after him, and theres been 2 terror attacks in a week - u'd like the guy shot as quickly as possible too!
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