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A funny idea just popped into my head whilst I was in the Lets meet up forum. There was an advert for a social and I didnt know where the location was so I went to the users profile in case that gave a clue i.e. by post code. The profile was full of N/A so I still dont know where the venue is. I then recalled that JudyTv (sorry judy this is not aimed at you personaly) when addressing newbie's who have left an out of place thread/post often brings into the topic the number of N/A on thier profile. This seems to be unacceptable for newbies however I have noticed that many experienced and very experienced users have a whole host of N/A attributes on thier profile in some cases not even correctly identifying sex or sexual pref.
Before anyone starts beating me up I am not having a go I am just making an enquiery. I have my own ideas on why this is but I would also like to hear from others as well to see if there are any reasons I have not considerd.
Mr Tweeky
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A funny idea just popped into my head whilst I was in the Lets meet up forum. There was an advert for a social and I didnt know where the location was so I went to the users profile in case that gave a clue i.e. by post code. The profile was full of N/A so I still dont know where the venue is. I then recalled that JudyTv (sorry judy this is not aimed at you personaly) when addressing newbie's who have left an out of place thread/post often brings into the topic the number of N/A on thier profile. This seems to be unacceptable for newbies however I have noticed that many experienced and very experienced users have a whole host of N/A attributes on thier profile in some cases not even correctly identifying sex or sexual pref.
Before anyone starts beating me up I am not having a go I am just making an enquiery. I have my own ideas on why this is but I would also like to hear from others as well to see if there are any reasons I have not considerd.
Mr Tweeky

okay.. i would be one of the experiences who hasn't filled everything thing.....and i can tell you why i haven't....
1) i don't particually like the idea of the e-mail being sent out telling me of matches in my area.. who says that i particularly want to play at that point in time... so to me that is akin to an unwanted piece of spam... i will reply to the ones i want to in my own time ...
and as for preferences... 2 reasons...1) why try to pigeon hole everyone into categories? that may work for some people but it doesn't work for me ...and 2) they haven't put in one that i feel comfortable with..."friends"...... i meet up with people socially before i decide whether i want to or not... so for me i am into swinging to make likeminded friends and anything after that is a bonus......
Quote by fabio grooverider
A funny idea just popped into my head whilst I was in the Lets meet up forum. There was an advert for a social and I didnt know where the location was so I went to the users profile in case that gave a clue i.e. by post code. The profile was full of N/A so I still dont know where the venue is. I then recalled that JudyTv (sorry judy this is not aimed at you personaly) when addressing newbie's who have left an out of place thread/post often brings into the topic the number of N/A on thier profile. This seems to be unacceptable for newbies however I have noticed that many experienced and very experienced users have a whole host of N/A attributes on thier profile in some cases not even correctly identifying sex or sexual pref.
Before anyone starts beating me up I am not having a go I am just making an enquiery. I have my own ideas on why this is but I would also like to hear from others as well to see if there are any reasons I have not considerd.
Mr Tweeky

okay.. i would be one of the experiences who hasn't filled everything thing.....and i can tell you why i haven't....
1) i don't particually like the idea of the e-mail being sent out telling me of matches in my area.. who says that i particularly want to play at that point in time... so to me that is akin to an unwanted piece of spam... i will reply to the ones i want to in my own time ...
and as for preferences... 2 reasons...1) why try to pigeon hole everyone into categories? that may work for some people but it doesn't work for me ...and 2) they haven't put in one that i feel comfortable with..."friends"...... i meet up with people socially before i decide whether i want to or not... so for me i am into swinging to make likeminded friends and anything after that is a bonus......
I often hear of this email being sent out with relevant matches but we have never had one?
any idea's why?
we would like to have at least 1 just to see if its for us or not
Tony
Thanks for your views Fabio smile there was one thought I had not considerd so you have enlightened me.
S&T I also do not get this mail, dunno why but I also would like at least one.
Mr Tweeky
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Thanks for your views Fabio smile there was one thought I had not considerd so you have enlightened me.
S&T I also do not get this mail, dunno why but I also would like at least one.
Mr Tweeky

Maybe we just have no matches dunno
Myabe the system don't like us :dunno:
Maybe were invisable :dunno:
Maybe the mail pinching gnome is at work :dunno:
But one would be nice, would just be nice to see what one of these latest match emails that people talk of look like lol
Is it our end Mr Admins, is there a setting or something we need to tick somewhere to enable these emails?
I have looked but can't seem to see where it is apart from in account settings there is a box to tick to receive news letters ect.... and yep that is ticked.
Tony
I think the profile is designed to help people make a start and simplify the process of getting online and into the site. If people omit things its usually because they don't like the actual choice of category, so they choose n/a, which actually is one of the optional choices, isn't it?. Although it appears as a -- mark in the box. Its not the basis to form an 'assessment' of someone, particularly if they are new.
I get loads of "new members you may like to meet" emails.
I don't do meets. On the very few accasions I have, I am very cautious.
Now, as to the N/A thing, which brings me back to the "no meets" thing, if you have no intention of meeting then the info given is of no use anyway.
For those who are active in the swinging area, or who use the dogging part as as a swinging extension, the use of profiles will be useful for people to chose who they fancy...but I use the dogging forum for infomation , and giving loads of info about me and then arranging meets in car parks and woods seems a bit silly....not to say insane !
I would also like to point-out that the "media" still regard swinging as a perverts activity, there was a large story a few weeks ago about "wife swappers" in one of the sunday toilet-paper-sheets.
I have had a few pms' in the past commenting about my lack of personal email address, my response is to ask why they need it ?
Does the PM system not work for them ?
Oh, and one of the pms' was from this site saying I needed to update my profile and put some more info in so people could meet me (?)
I don't do meets, and I don't do shagging....and there are still plenty of couples about who also do neither, but just do shows.
It has been pointed-out, many times, that on occasions your chosen name on here can be googled with good effect, to find out what other sites you use (with the same name).
Each person will have their own reasons for missing sections or placing NA...
examples
Sexulaity:
They haven't worked it out yet.
There are not enough options
Are not comfortable selecting bi
They want to keep their options open
They feel selecting one may narrow the chances
They put NA so they can say they are whatever potential meets want them to be
They couldn't be arsed to choose
They hope it will put people off
They don't meet people through the ads, chatroom or LMU so they don't think it is any ones business

I can understand people filling them in with a load of rubbish - at one point I was a 104 year old male standing a proud 5"1'. I find it strange though when people fill-in just about everything and then leave one or two out, like build and assest. Even though it may not be the case - it kind of implies they are not comfortable with some aspect of size.
But, at the end of the day it is a brief profile and not a great deal of use information wise if used in isolation.
I don't want to speak for Judy, but I don't think the word "unacceptable" is right here. It's perfectly acceptable. It's just that the more information you provide (both on who you are and what you're looking for), the more chance you will have of success.
If you're not looking for a meet, there's no need to provide any personal information. If you want to get to know people well first, you might prefer to make hundreds of posts in dozens of forum converstations over a few months.
I have closen not to post exact location on my profile, as I think it's irrelevant. Most of the SH members I have got to know well live some distance from me. I hardly know anyone from my own area!
Mike.
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I have closen not to post exact location on my profile, as I think it's irrelevant. Most of the SH members I have got to know well live some distance from me. I hardly know anyone from my own area!
Mike.

You're down South arn't you? lol
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I have closen not to post exact location on my profile, as I think it's irrelevant. Most of the SH members I have got to know well live some distance from me. I hardly know anyone from my own area!
Mike.

You're down South arn't you? lol
That's what some Geordies told me at the munch last night! :lol:
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You're down South arn't you? lol

That's what some Geordies told me at the munch last night! :lol:
Everything that isn't Scotland is "down south" to the Geordies.
Quote by MikeNorth
I have closen not to post exact location on my profile, as I think it's irrelevant. Most of the SH members I have got to know well live some distance from me. I hardly know anyone from my own area!
Mike.

You're down South arn't you? lol
That's what some Geordies told me at the munch last night! :lol:
You must be up North then - you understood the Geordies! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I totally agree with most of the contributions to this thread, theres always two sides to every coin, one thing I will say though is when browsing the profiles and comming accross the N/A brigade, it does sometim es feel like the person / people simply couldnt be arsed. dunno
Now I am aware that, as has been said, that this is not always the case, but it does project that immage. imho.
Quote by Pete_sw
I totally agree with most of the contributions to this thread, theres always two sides to every coin, one thing I will say though is when browsing the profiles and comming accross the N/A brigade, it does sometim es feel like the person / people simply couldnt be arsed. dunno
Now I am aware that, as has been said, that this is not always the case, but it does project that immage. imho.

pete.. to the outsider looking it and to a newbie it can look that way i suppose..... however what i would say is that behind every story there is a story so to speak.... so if people were interested in me then they could go back and look at my posts.... and talk to me.....rather than just going on ticks and boxes......
if you are going to be rigid about what you want then all well and good.... go for it... but i find people are individuals and will be flexible if they like someone
as an example.....looking at yours it says primarily that you are after couples and single fems.... but i have seen ads on lets meet up where you have asked for single males wink :wink:
hopefully it helps you understand a bit better
sean xxxxxx
well said.. biggrin
Quote by fabio grooverider
A funny idea just popped into my head whilst I was in the Lets meet up forum. There was an advert for a social and I didnt know where the location was so I went to the users profile in case that gave a clue i.e. by post code. The profile was full of N/A so I still dont know where the venue is. I then recalled that JudyTv (sorry judy this is not aimed at you personaly) when addressing newbie's who have left an out of place thread/post often brings into the topic the number of N/A on thier profile. This seems to be unacceptable for newbies however I have noticed that many experienced and very experienced users have a whole host of N/A attributes on thier profile in some cases not even correctly identifying sex or sexual pref.
Before anyone starts beating me up I am not having a go I am just making an enquiery. I have my own ideas on why this is but I would also like to hear from others as well to see if there are any reasons I have not considerd.
Mr Tweeky

okay.. i would be one of the experiences who hasn't filled everything thing.....and i can tell you why i haven't....
1) i don't particually like the idea of the e-mail being sent out telling me of matches in my area.. who says that i particularly want to play at that point in time... so to me that is akin to an unwanted piece of spam... i will reply to the ones i want to in my own time ...
and as for preferences... 2 reasons...1) why try to pigeon hole everyone into categories? that may work for some people but it doesn't work for me ...and 2) they haven't put in one that i feel comfortable with..."friends"...... i meet up with people socially before i decide whether i want to or not... so for me i am into swinging to make likeminded friends and anything after that is a bonus......
Quote by Hillfolk
Our position is this....
We belive that the underlying bedrock of swinging is openess, honesty and trust, between partners and other couples, that's why our faces are on the profile. Anything else as far as we are concerned is less than ideal and re-inforces the feeling that the scene is dirty, and peopled by perverts and charlatins.

that is harsh... and while i respect your openness not everyone can be like like that... or are not happy to let the whole world know who they are....
i'll give you two examples.... a while back there was a story of a teacher who got sacked for being a swinger.... apparently some parents had found out and were not happy and told the board of govenors... so where you are open, remember that there are parts of society that are not, and it is not worth losing a job over
i use to have a proper pic of myself in my avatar... to which i got a reply from someone saying they knew where i use to work...and proceeded to tell the chatroom i was in......
the scene isn't dirty at all.. heck there were 200 swingers at a social evening having a blast last night....so leave your pre conceptions at the door because you don't know the circumstances.........
sean xxxxxxxxxxx
Must admit I detest the emails I get from Admin telling me to fill my profile in.
When the site got taken over I posed the question that a number of non-swingers visit the site purely for it's value, I was reassured that there would still be a place for these people and yet it seems increasingly less so.
Anyone who knows my real name and area can find my home details on the web with very little effort, so I'm deliberately vague. I have nothing to hide in the scene but having young children, don't fancy any Tom Dick or Harry recognising me and putting them at risk.
I make friends ... then if it goes further it does ... I don't need emails telling me who is close by! I'm less likely to pick close liaisons for fear of repercussions! It's less of a swinging thing and more of a contacts site in that respect. It's one of the few changes I dislike about the site, but it's the biggest.
I'm 33 years old .... I can pick who I want to meet ... I don't need someone who doesn't know me pushing me to add more details than I already have to a site so they can make money out of it. If we could have the option to remove the Admin emails I'd like to do so.
Calista x
In our case, the reason that there are a string of N/A's in the other half of our profile is that each time I try to fill it in, the sytem says that the profile has been updated, but then when I check back later - there are all of those N/A's again! So, it's not for want of trying, but the 'system' just isn't letting us update the other half of our 'couple' profile. I'll have to email admin about this one day, i guess... *sigh*
The other point is, as has already been said, locations can be quite narrow. In London, you could conceivably hang out in a location stated by postcode and have a fair chance of spotting someone who has filled in their postcode correctly if you have a face pic of them - particularly near tube stations, for example. This is why we haven't put our correct postcode into our profile.
On the other hand, as a peruser of ads, I do tend to think that more info is better, and N/A's certainly put me off...
Quote by tweeky
A funny idea just popped into my head whilst I was in the Lets meet up forum. There was an advert for a social and I didnt know where the location was so I went to the users profile in case that gave a clue i.e. by post code. The profile was full of N/A so I still dont know where the venue is. I then recalled that JudyTv (sorry judy this is not aimed at you personaly) when addressing newbie's who have left an out of place thread/post often brings into the topic the number of N/A on thier profile. This seems to be unacceptable for newbies however I have noticed that many experienced and very experienced users have a whole host of N/A attributes on thier profile in some cases not even correctly identifying sex or sexual pref.
Before anyone starts beating me up I am not having a go I am just making an enquiery. I have my own ideas on why this is but I would also like to hear from others as well to see if there are any reasons I have not considerd.
Mr Tweeky

Hi Tweaky
I agree with a lot of what's already been said. I haven't filled my profile out as I think it just sends a message out that it's ok to spam people.
If I came up on someone's "people you might be interested in" list they may feel it's ok so send me random pm's - I get enough of those as it is.
In response to your comments about Judy's previous posts, I've only seen Judy suggest that to those who have come on the forum moaning about not getting responses to ads etc. I don't think it had anything to do with them be newbies.
At the end of the day this site has different areas that meet individual needs. Some people will utilise them all - some will use only certain facilities e.g. Just the ads, just the chatroom. We're all individuals who make our own choices
Quote by Hillfolk
...We were not trying to force anyone to comply with any rules about being forced to apply a full profile. We were just airing our point of view. We belive each has their own reasons for following their set of values and opinions without having to justify or be accountable to anyone else.
Our experiences and values lead us to take one point of view, I can't see how that is harsh to anyone?
Dawn and Mark

I can't understand how not wanting your details available to all and sundry including face pic makes people a charlaton or pervert?
That's a big assumption to make.
C x
let those that wish to advertise their needs do so let the rest of us go about our own business in peace, the way we we used to on here,
those that no us seem to understand our life style those that dont want to put us in a bracket ,
nb our profile will change regularly just like our tastes and habits do.
I've just been to look at my profile.
I'm full of N/As. I've no idea why.
Mollie
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let those that wish to advertise their needs do so let the rest of us go about our own business in peace, the way we we used to on here,

worship
Thaanks for your views so far all. Seems the title debate was realy quite a good one.
Mr Tweeky
calista and staggy both kind of summed up why my profile is a string of N/As. i did fill it in when first given the option, and had a brief flurry of PMs, at which point i changed it to something nondescript. since i do not really meet people i don't know, and aren't interested in random emails, it seemed pointless to fill in a profile which is primarily designed to encourage people to contact you if you match what they are looking for.
it may seem misleading to leave it blank . . . i actually feel in my case it is more misleading to fill it in.
neil x x x ;)

agree with WRATS and Calista on this one evry1 to there own ........
I filled mine in and it has caused me a bit of grief from some people, because it states married, but I play alone. I could have lied like I'm sure some people do on here, but don't see the point. Life is too short to to justify why I do things. Had I left it full of N/A's it would probably have been a different matter.
I have never been asked in a club whether I'm married or not.
As far as pics go I have face pics etc in my private gallery which people get to see after chatting for a while, and in the event of arranging a meeting.
As for the emails telling me about new local contacts I might be interested in, total waste of time, never seen anyone in them remotely local to me.
Would have to book short holiday to meet most of them lol
Right said my bit, will now duck out of the way and wait for the anti married men brigade to jump on me bolt
Quote by fabio grooverider
I totally agree with most of the contributions to this thread, theres always two sides to every coin, one thing I will say though is when browsing the profiles and comming accross the N/A brigade, it does sometim es feel like the person / people simply couldnt be arsed. dunno
Now I am aware that, as has been said, that this is not always the case, but it does project that immage. imho.

pete.. to the outsider looking it and to a newbie it can look that way i suppose..... however what i would say is that behind every story there is a story so to speak.... so if people were interested in me then they could go back and look at my posts.... and talk to me.....rather than just going on ticks and boxes......
if you are going to be rigid about what you want then all well and good.... go for it... but i find people are individuals and will be flexible if they like someone
as an example.....looking at yours it says primarily that you are after couples and single fems.... but i have seen ads on lets meet up where you have asked for single males wink :wink:
hopefully it helps you understand a bit better
sean xxxxxx
Sean, well reasoned point, and there’s more biggrin
When we first joined this site many moons ago (see Katie_n_John) we were only interested in meeting single Bi-fems rolleyes how naive lol
but as you mature into the scene, tastes, desires, wishes and boundaries change and your horizons broaden.
when i think back to how rigid our initial wishes were it makes me smile, we now advertise for fems, couples and recently single guys.
We are now even thinking about (but not yet doing) groups.
The point I am making is that deciding what you desire is ever changing, making decisions can be difficult, changing a profile to suit your needs is easy and takes only a few minutes.
As for face pics, or the lack of on our profile there are two very simple reasons for that, 1) most of our family are on the net parents and children who are mostly unaware of our lifestyle. 2) I work for HMG and would be escorted off the premises the instant there was even a rumour of what goes on in my private life. Add to this the fact that we live in a tiny country community who would ostracise us if they ever found out then I think we have a pretty strong case for keeping face shots off the web. As many on here know, we are quite happy to email our face pics once we have established contact with someone a built up a certain amount of trust through e-mail / messenger / phone / meeting.
I stick by my initial comment, “sometimes” it does seem like someone just couldn’t be arsed to fill it in :dunno: