Whilst i love watching some of the women on cam, i have noticed of late that there appear to be several who have almost disappeared up their own backsides. I could name names but dont want to be kicked off the site.
Whilst i appreciate that the females on here do tend to get bombarded.. is it to much to ask for an acknowledgement to a comment/message?? I never whisper and always am polite however it isnt always reciprocated.
There are some lovely ladies out there and I thank you for your grace & beauty. The main culprits know who they are sitting up on cam posing & pouting being told how stunning they are 100s of times a day.
Bring back manners and modesty!
Ok, rant over!
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I believe there are all sorts of people on cam. I just happened to go into a room the other day with a lady on cam that was being friendly and was suffering personal abuse from a guy, she handled herself well and stayed polite. I felt I needed to help her as nobody should be insulted in the way she was. I went and spoke to an op and the matter was dealt with. Sometimes women on cam need to be able to handle themselves against verbal attack. Luckily I have never been insulted but then I keep my clothes on, on cam. For the ladies that like to play on cam have some thought, as I have never seen a guy on cam naked dealing with verbal abuse.
There are a wide variety of folks, but of course there are a handful that would (to my mind) appear to be on ego trips, who whilst claiming not to want such attention repeatedly invite it. Still, that's life.
To be fair, it's couples too (more so than men I feel).
Thankfully, the majority of folks are half decent and use the cam merely as a bit of fun and a pleasant way to see someone (and their reactions / laughter etc), rather than a means to gain some accolade / ego boost.
Here's the 'sound minded' individuals on here who make it worthwhile!
To be fair, it's couples too (more so than men I feel).
Thankfully, the majority of folks are half decent and use the cam merely as a bit of fun and a pleasant way to see someone (and their reactions / laughter etc), rather than a means to gain some accolade / ego boost.
Here's the 'sound minded' individuals on here who make it worthwhile!
Orgasminator
guess this means i'm a Vain woman 
And here is my view as a vain woman...
I can't stand being told the same crap everyday, by a hundred different people in the space of an hour. It's boring and unimaginative, and you know they have not long said the same line to someone else. If i believe the comment genuine and unique, then fair do's, i will reply but otherwise i don't, i don't want typing blisters do i???
Why do we go on cam in the first place?? Usually to get noticed by a particular person or couple without coming on way to strong. Also a lot of single fems and i believe fems in some couples, often get ignored for the 'too good to be true', or ' surely that’s not her in the picture', or 'i don't believe she exists'. So we prance about on cam looking very real and very alive, whilst participating in the scene by getting to know potential partners through chat.
Sorry if your past comments have been ignored, but you really have to step away and sit on the side lines to get both sides of the story.
Oh yeah, i know I sound a right bitch but i prefer to cut to the chase then dance around it :D
And here is my view as a vain woman...
I can't stand being told the same crap everyday, by a hundred different people in the space of an hour. It's boring and unimaginative, and you know they have not long said the same line to someone else. If i believe the comment genuine and unique, then fair do's, i will reply but otherwise i don't, i don't want typing blisters do i???
Why do we go on cam in the first place?? Usually to get noticed by a particular person or couple without coming on way to strong. Also a lot of single fems and i believe fems in some couples, often get ignored for the 'too good to be true', or ' surely that’s not her in the picture', or 'i don't believe she exists'. So we prance about on cam looking very real and very alive, whilst participating in the scene by getting to know potential partners through chat.
Sorry if your past comments have been ignored, but you really have to step away and sit on the side lines to get both sides of the story.
Oh yeah, i know I sound a right bitch but i prefer to cut to the chase then dance around it :D
I completely agree with your post and you put it into the words I was trying to find
and this is spot on, if I turn my cam on and same can be said of any woman on cam within seconds anywhere between 5 and 10 guys say hello. So, if like the original poster is requesting you say hello to each of them in return. Then say 8 of those guys will usually reply with "how are you?" you suddenly find yourself in 8 conversations with 8 people at the same time, how do you keep up? thats not even allowing for the unwanted whispers that you are getting and the whispers from the people that you actually want to talk to.
There was an incident in the chatroom the other week where a guy took exception to a woman on cam who didn't say hello in return to him and he pulled her up on it. She apologised and said she couldn't keep up and whe went on to call her an ignorant bitch and that she was up her own arse. Similar has happened to me also.I find it amazing that because someone has had their ego dented because someone on the internet who they have never met hasn't replied back to them when they have said hello thinks its ok to be abusive.
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And here is my view as a vain woman...
I can't stand being told the same crap everyday, by a hundred different people in the space of an hour. It's boring and unimaginative, and you know they have not long said the same line to someone else. If i believe the comment genuine and unique, then fair do's, i will reply but otherwise i don't, i don't want typing blisters do i???
and this is spot on, if I turn my cam on and same can be said of any woman on cam within seconds anywhere between 5 and 10 guys say hello. So, if like the original poster is requesting you say hello to each of them in return. Then say 8 of those guys will usually reply with "how are you?" you suddenly find yourself in 8 conversations with 8 people at the same time, how do you keep up? thats not even allowing for the unwanted whispers that you are getting and the whispers from the people that you actually want to talk to.
There was an incident in the chatroom the other week where a guy took exception to a woman on cam who didn't say hello in return to him and he pulled her up on it. She apologised and said she couldn't keep up and whe went on to call her an ignorant bitch and that she was up her own arse. Similar has happened to me also.I find it amazing that because someone has had their ego dented because someone on the internet who they have never met hasn't replied back to them when they have said hello thinks its ok to be abusive.
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Bloody hell, another lost lost poster returns
(love the new look btw, long hair suits you- as stunning as ever
) Orgasminator
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Bloody hell, another lost lost poster returns
(love the new look btw, long hair suits you- as stunning as ever
)I was tempted not to reply to this, being a vain woman and all, but i couldn't help myself, its lovely to see you Meat :kiss
Sex God
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Bloody hell, another lost lost poster returns
(love the new look btw, long hair suits you- as stunning as ever
)I was tempted not to reply to this, being a vain woman and all, but i couldn't help myself, its lovely to see you Meat :kiss
There you are, you've just proved your vanity by replying :haha:
Anyway, i'm glad you managed to escape from Rose & Staggys dungeon to brighten the place up
Orgasminator
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I completely agree with your post and you put it into the words I was trying to find
And here is my view as a vain woman...
I can't stand being told the same crap everyday, by a hundred different people in the space of an hour. It's boring and unimaginative, and you know they have not long said the same line to someone else. If i believe the comment genuine and unique, then fair do's, i will reply but otherwise i don't, i don't want typing blisters do i???
and this is spot on, if I turn my cam on and same can be said of any woman on cam within seconds anywhere between 5 and 10 guys say hello. So, if like the original poster is requesting you say hello to each of them in return. Then say 8 of those guys will usually reply with "how are you?" you suddenly find yourself in 8 conversations with 8 people at the same time, how do you keep up? thats not even allowing for the unwanted whispers that you are getting and the whispers from the people that you actually want to talk to.
There was an incident in the chatroom the other week where a guy took exception to a woman on cam who didn't say hello in return to him and he pulled her up on it. She apologised and said she couldn't keep up and whe went on to call her an ignorant bitch and that she was up her own arse. Similar has happened to me also.I find it amazing that because someone has had their ego dented because someone on the internet who they have never met hasn't replied back to them when they have said hello thinks its ok to be abusive.
I think it goes back to the old saying, 'It takes alsorts!' The scene has always been a massive community and it does attract all walks of life. I suppose we have to embrace our abusive muppets, vain women, sex on legs couples, fun playmates, etc etc etc... as otherwise the scene would be a very boring. Instead of complaining or getting our backs up we should celebrate Diversity. Sex would be my number one option for celebrating it
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Purhaps my hands are busy when Im on cam
I sometimes like to be watched on cam... playing, usually with myself
But!!! if my hands are elsewhere how can I keep typing??? I like to be genuine when I do this not act like Im an actress so why would anyone expect me to stop making myself feel horny n touchin myself etc just to reply to them?
Can't you see I'm BUSY!!!!
If you like to see us play... Please let us get on with it Thankyou peeps xxx
Minxie :rascal: xx
Purhaps my hands are busy when Im on cam
I sometimes like to be watched on cam... playing, usually with myself
But!!! if my hands are elsewhere how can I keep typing??? I like to be genuine when I do this not act like Im an actress so why would anyone expect me to stop making myself feel horny n touchin myself etc just to reply to them?Can't you see I'm BUSY!!!!
If you like to see us play... Please let us get on with it
Thankyou peeps xxxMinxie :rascal: xx
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Whilst i love watching some of the women on cam, i have noticed of late that there appear to be several who have almost disappeared up their own backsides. I could name names but dont want to be kicked off the site.
Whilst i appreciate that the females on here do tend to get bombarded.. is it to much to ask for an acknowledgement to a comment/message?? I never whisper and always am polite however it isnt always reciprocated.
There are some lovely ladies out there and I thank you for your grace & beauty. The main culprits know who they are sitting up on cam posing & pouting being told how stunning they are 100s of times a day.
Bring back manners and modesty!
Ok, rant over!
If there are "egotistical" and "vain" people (ladys and/or gentlemen) on cam, that's their choice. There are a lot of free thinkers here (doesn't that require an ego) that like to explore the multifaceted sexual mores of our time; that includes exibitionism, and also possibley being haughty, rude and sometimes even vain. You may prefer manners and modesty, but this is a large and varied community.
It's a personal choice for the individual to make.
I'm also sure that most those that cam are quite aware of the torrent of predictable comments that come spewing forth each time they turn their cam on, pull their top down, bite their finger, etc. For some, they may even get something out of courting this attention. I know I would but unfortunatley I have a penis.
If you don't like the people on cam, leave the room or close the cam window; if you don't like the commentary turn off the cam, or whisper a private room password to those that you like.
I'd like to thank SH for giving people these choices. Personally it takes all my attention to keep up with the chat so never open cam windows and I leave the room if it's obvious that that is the only subject of conversation.
As for not replying; as I understand it people have two hands, and are sometimes using them both for activities other than typing
Actually, I think the guy has a point and made it very well and fairly eloquently, far more so that some that have responded. He said 'several' women, not all 
And yes, I agree with him. There are some women that really don't warrant the attention they get and that I believe just use cams and feedback to boost their low self esteem and lack of attention/satisfaction in the 'real world'.
It becomes a power and control game and happens frequently. The same as women who sit on cam complaining about whispers and comments - simple, turn off the cam and disable whispers if it's that unsettling and frustrating for you.
I know I'm probably not best placed to pass comment here (or maybe I am? I'm objective I guess?!)I actually asked one straight bloke I know on here why they did it - i.e. did the 'wow, you look amazing' thing.. when really, they don't! He said when a straight man has his cock in his hand at 12am then a pig in a wig looks sexy!' I'm not wired that way so I'll never understand it..
But yeah, some are vain and 'up their own arses'. It's the same with blokes on gay sites with big cocks - they can usually punch way above their weight. I've seen it happen frequently.
And this isn't a 'gay bloke slams women thing' - I love women, just not vain ones who really ain't in a position to call the shots yet still try to. Same goes for any sex really.
And yes, I agree with him. There are some women that really don't warrant the attention they get and that I believe just use cams and feedback to boost their low self esteem and lack of attention/satisfaction in the 'real world'.
It becomes a power and control game and happens frequently. The same as women who sit on cam complaining about whispers and comments - simple, turn off the cam and disable whispers if it's that unsettling and frustrating for you.
I know I'm probably not best placed to pass comment here (or maybe I am? I'm objective I guess?!)I actually asked one straight bloke I know on here why they did it - i.e. did the 'wow, you look amazing' thing.. when really, they don't! He said when a straight man has his cock in his hand at 12am then a pig in a wig looks sexy!' I'm not wired that way so I'll never understand it..
But yeah, some are vain and 'up their own arses'. It's the same with blokes on gay sites with big cocks - they can usually punch way above their weight. I've seen it happen frequently.
And this isn't a 'gay bloke slams women thing' - I love women, just not vain ones who really ain't in a position to call the shots yet still try to. Same goes for any sex really.
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Actually, I think the guy has a point and made it very well and fairly eloquently, far more so that some that have responded. He said 'several' women, not all
And yes, I agree with him. There are some women that really don't warrant the attention they get and that I believe just use cams and feedback to boost their low self esteem and lack of attention/satisfaction in the 'real world'.
It becomes a power and control game and happens frequently. The same as women who sit on cam complaining about whispers and comments - simple, turn off the cam and disable whispers if it's that unsettling and frustrating for you.
I know I'm probably not best placed to pass comment here (or maybe I am? I'm objective I guess?!)I actually asked one straight bloke I know on here why they did it - i.e. did the 'wow, you look amazing' thing.. when really, they don't! He said when a straight man has his cock in his hand at 12am then a pig in a wig looks sexy!' I'm not wired that way so I'll never understand it..
But yeah, some are vain and 'up their own arses'. It's the same with blokes on gay sites with big cocks - they can usually punch way above their weight. I've seen it happen frequently.
And this isn't a 'gay bloke slams women thing' - I love women, just not vain ones who really ain't in a position to call the shots yet still try to. Same goes for any sex really.
You've mentioned some interesting theories here actually. All of which i'm taking into consideration. I have always been a very vain person anyways, those that have met me will agree to that, but i wouldn't say i call the shots, that's the natural submissive in me. However i do agree, some do. But i tend to ignore those idoits anyways.
If a woman does have low self-esteem then i can understand how the comments do well to boost their confidence, but surely if this is the case, why doesn't she reply. I believe someone has already answered this further up the thread. Something regarding how you can end up in too many conversations where you loose yourself. But surely that doesn't make her vain?
Maybe compliments on the scene are given away too freely?
My lengthy post agreeing with Bioke and pointing out the difference twixt vanity and pretentiousness just went AWOL.
In summary, I don't "get" vanity- but vain people wouldn't "get" me either, so each to their own. What I can't abide is pretentious, arrogant people- such dreadfully unattractive traits in a person.
In summary, I don't "get" vanity- but vain people wouldn't "get" me either, so each to their own. What I can't abide is pretentious, arrogant people- such dreadfully unattractive traits in a person.
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If a woman does have low self-esteem then i can understand how the comments do well to boost their confidence, but surely if this is the case, why doesn't she reply. ....
Maybe compliments on the scene are given away too freely?
Interesting debate and loving the way you think here
For me, (and I agree with you) vanity doesn't really come into it, popularity does..Part of the not replying thing to me is all part of the 'power game' thing... watch them next time, they don't reply as they are 'too busy' and yet they have time to post things like 'will everyone please stop whispering me guys... sorry I can't keep up with all the whispers' or they reply on the open Forum to things that have been said in whisper which is even more annoying for the people trying to have a conversation in the room.
Personally, I think it's all just a way of saying 'I'm SO popular on here... look at me!'. Watch the way said females start to behave when there are other females on cam and the guys are commenting on them more... it's gets SO competitive, it's hilarious!
Cool debate.. and by the way, the gay/bi guys are just the same in the Bi chatrooms as well, watch how they compete for 'best/biggest cock on cam' prize.. we should all invade the room one night and throw a few compliments about and see who rises to the bait first :rascal:
Sex God
You could say vain women.
Equally, you could say desperate men.
I always think of a chat room like a pub. You wouldn't walk into a pub, see someone you like the look of (but don't really know) engaged in a conversation with a few other people, walk up to them, tap them on the shoulder and say "Oy! Talk to me! Give me attention!" and then repeat it time after time until they either give in or tell you to feck off.
Far too many men feel the chatroom isn't a chat ROOM but a chat with someone they want to fantasise over and use as a masturbatory aid. In another thread somebody mentioned about thinking with their dicks. This is precisely what happens here. Often when they don't get the attention from the person on cam they want, they get aggressive and abusive. Not all I hasten to add but enough of a percentage to warrant females being wary.
I think some men even see it as a competition to win the attention of the female on cam. They disregard what she wants from the experience by being demanding, directing and basically clamouring for attention like a spoiled toddler. It's part of the reason I don't go in chat anymore to be honest unless I am fortunate enough to find a Forum Chat open or Minxy opens a room (neither of which has happened of late, you lazy shower...)
I can't comment on vain ladies. I've not been in the room enough really to see them and the rooms I frequented many eons ago were happily free from them. I can understand what the "vain women" have said in this thread and I understand how tiresome it must be to have the same crappy old comments come time and time again. Especially in their droves as soon as you flick on the cam. It would be very hard to remain patient and polite in such circumstances.
In the end the onus is on the man doing the questioning and not the woman on cam to resolve this. She can only do so many things at once. If he wants to perceive that as some rejection of him, rather than just that she is otherwise occupied, then that says more about him and his attitude than her. I'd also suggest knocking one out over a DVD or magazine before coming on and acting like a belligerent, aggressive idiot, as can and does happen at times.
I think some men feel women on cam are vain because they show confidence. There is a difference between the two. A woman isn't vain if she doesn't talk to you and appears to enjoy the attention of others. To me that means not that she is vain, more that you are sulking. Vanity is expressing and stating the belief that one is wonderful, beautiful, sexy etc. I don't know many women who do this on cam. Many are either chatting to other people (which is the problem for some men) or busy enjoying themselves (which again is the problem for some men, if they don't feel they are part of it).
So I don't agree that many women are vain. I think the fact that the site is now so unbalanced with single men makes it harder for a single man to get his jollies by speaking with a lady on cam. Some can accept that, some it seems cannot. However I don't see how stating that ladies on cam are "up their own arses" is going to help you be more successful towards that goal. You could try wit and charm, though I guess with a nob in your hand, it can be a secondary consideration.
The issue of women on cam for self-esteem is a very good one. I knew of many who did that. However it is a dangerous game, it only takes one idiot to come on and make a nasty comment and that person can be destroyed if they are doing it solely to foster positive responses to make themselves feel better. Some can take it and bounce back, some can't. These ladies are quite the opposite of vain. I would say in many cases they are extraordinarily brave. I know I would not do it even for a bowl of cherries.
There is also the under-current of assumption some men have that because they've joined the site. that every female on it is somehow their property to enjoy when they like. That somehow now they've paid, a queue of willing females will form outside their door within an hour and that every lady on chat is waiting for him to come on so they can fling their clothes off and show him a close up of her cervix while ignoring everyone else. Get real. You are a small fish in a very, very big pond.
So I have every sympathy with the vain ladies. No I'm not doing this for a shag (at the risk of sounding vain myself, I don't need to) and I won't be going in the chatrooms either. These are merely my observations mainly from the last time I used the chatrooms a lot. I just think some men need a reality check at times and perhaps need to stop sulking because the women of the site are not falling over themselves to please them in whatever way and whenever they feel like.
Equally, you could say desperate men.
I always think of a chat room like a pub. You wouldn't walk into a pub, see someone you like the look of (but don't really know) engaged in a conversation with a few other people, walk up to them, tap them on the shoulder and say "Oy! Talk to me! Give me attention!" and then repeat it time after time until they either give in or tell you to feck off.
Far too many men feel the chatroom isn't a chat ROOM but a chat with someone they want to fantasise over and use as a masturbatory aid. In another thread somebody mentioned about thinking with their dicks. This is precisely what happens here. Often when they don't get the attention from the person on cam they want, they get aggressive and abusive. Not all I hasten to add but enough of a percentage to warrant females being wary.
I think some men even see it as a competition to win the attention of the female on cam. They disregard what she wants from the experience by being demanding, directing and basically clamouring for attention like a spoiled toddler. It's part of the reason I don't go in chat anymore to be honest unless I am fortunate enough to find a Forum Chat open or Minxy opens a room (neither of which has happened of late, you lazy shower...)
I can't comment on vain ladies. I've not been in the room enough really to see them and the rooms I frequented many eons ago were happily free from them. I can understand what the "vain women" have said in this thread and I understand how tiresome it must be to have the same crappy old comments come time and time again. Especially in their droves as soon as you flick on the cam. It would be very hard to remain patient and polite in such circumstances.
In the end the onus is on the man doing the questioning and not the woman on cam to resolve this. She can only do so many things at once. If he wants to perceive that as some rejection of him, rather than just that she is otherwise occupied, then that says more about him and his attitude than her. I'd also suggest knocking one out over a DVD or magazine before coming on and acting like a belligerent, aggressive idiot, as can and does happen at times.
I think some men feel women on cam are vain because they show confidence. There is a difference between the two. A woman isn't vain if she doesn't talk to you and appears to enjoy the attention of others. To me that means not that she is vain, more that you are sulking. Vanity is expressing and stating the belief that one is wonderful, beautiful, sexy etc. I don't know many women who do this on cam. Many are either chatting to other people (which is the problem for some men) or busy enjoying themselves (which again is the problem for some men, if they don't feel they are part of it).
So I don't agree that many women are vain. I think the fact that the site is now so unbalanced with single men makes it harder for a single man to get his jollies by speaking with a lady on cam. Some can accept that, some it seems cannot. However I don't see how stating that ladies on cam are "up their own arses" is going to help you be more successful towards that goal. You could try wit and charm, though I guess with a nob in your hand, it can be a secondary consideration.
The issue of women on cam for self-esteem is a very good one. I knew of many who did that. However it is a dangerous game, it only takes one idiot to come on and make a nasty comment and that person can be destroyed if they are doing it solely to foster positive responses to make themselves feel better. Some can take it and bounce back, some can't. These ladies are quite the opposite of vain. I would say in many cases they are extraordinarily brave. I know I would not do it even for a bowl of cherries.
There is also the under-current of assumption some men have that because they've joined the site. that every female on it is somehow their property to enjoy when they like. That somehow now they've paid, a queue of willing females will form outside their door within an hour and that every lady on chat is waiting for him to come on so they can fling their clothes off and show him a close up of her cervix while ignoring everyone else. Get real. You are a small fish in a very, very big pond.
So I have every sympathy with the vain ladies. No I'm not doing this for a shag (at the risk of sounding vain myself, I don't need to) and I won't be going in the chatrooms either. These are merely my observations mainly from the last time I used the chatrooms a lot. I just think some men need a reality check at times and perhaps need to stop sulking because the women of the site are not falling over themselves to please them in whatever way and whenever they feel like.
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That so says it all very well... Thankyou Resonance Infact Im not a vain woman at all, quite the opposite infact. The only thing I feel confident at is running my karaoke entertainment and singing. I do go on cam for reasons stated before & I do love to chat. But sometimes it feels like as some men AND some couples have paid their membership, they have some sort of right to the women, like a free prostitute, here only to do as directed!
Yes, of course I like attention like most anyone, but I also like to be spoken to nicely or in a manner that makes me laugh. After all... like everyone else on this site... 'Im here for me n my needs, not everyone else's'
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That so says it all very well... Thankyou Resonance
Infact Im not a vain woman at all, quite the opposite infact. The only thing I feel confident at is running my karaoke entertainment and singing. I do go on cam for reasons stated before & I do love to chat. But sometimes it feels like as some men AND some couples have paid their membership, they have some sort of right to the women, like a free prostitute, here only to do as directed!Yes, of course I like attention like most anyone, but I also like to be spoken to nicely or in a manner that makes me laugh. After all... like everyone else on this site... 'Im here for me n my needs, not everyone else's'
Minxie :rascal: xx
Hear Hear to the above two posts...
Although I'd say 'idiocy' seems to afflict all genders / races and partnerships etc.
I always like to feel a chatroom is like a pub. That you'd never in a million years expect to walk up to somebody and drag them off to a corner for a private chat. So why do it in a chatroom?
Yes it's nice to have your own thread of conversation, but you shouldn't too worried about it being overheard either.
Conversation is sexy (imo), you don't have to make the conversation about sex. The sexiest people I have known could hold a conversation. They can hold one for hours and leave me feeling aroused (mentally) and intrigued, without a single sexual conversation taking place.
I also agree with the notion that far too many people assume "swinger = easy lay". Far too often I've heard people say they've been here a week and still not had any luck. Good grief, is it me? is it?... Do they really expect folks to get to know them over such a short period of time... and get to know them enough to want to sleep with them?
And finally, respect for women?... well humm, controversy here, but I don't think women deserve any more respect than anybody else. People deserve respect (until proven otherwise). Sometimes, that means it's ok to disagree with a woman in chat, and say so. A disagreement should not be seen as disrespect.
What I find most disturbing is the number of 'white knights' rushing to the aid of a woman with bunch of vomit inducing platitudes and compliments in the vain hope that somehow they will be seen as a hero and 'respectful' male.
I'm not condoning the idiots who abuse and insult women here... just it's ok to debate with a woman and disagree! without some 50 men siding with some woman to gain favour.
Oh, and like conversation... the BEST folks I know I can argue with all night and still adore them. That's because of the way they behave when you disagree. It's easy to be nice when you want to get into someone's pants. It's far more telling to see how folks behave when they have a different point of view.
It's interesting actually... when folks disagree in the fora, you get a far better natured banter than when they disagree in a chatroom.
Somehow, the chatrooms pander to the worst mentalities and the fora tend to bring out the best!
Although I'd say 'idiocy' seems to afflict all genders / races and partnerships etc.
I always like to feel a chatroom is like a pub. That you'd never in a million years expect to walk up to somebody and drag them off to a corner for a private chat. So why do it in a chatroom?
Yes it's nice to have your own thread of conversation, but you shouldn't too worried about it being overheard either.
Conversation is sexy (imo), you don't have to make the conversation about sex. The sexiest people I have known could hold a conversation. They can hold one for hours and leave me feeling aroused (mentally) and intrigued, without a single sexual conversation taking place.
I also agree with the notion that far too many people assume "swinger = easy lay". Far too often I've heard people say they've been here a week and still not had any luck. Good grief, is it me? is it?... Do they really expect folks to get to know them over such a short period of time... and get to know them enough to want to sleep with them?
And finally, respect for women?... well humm, controversy here, but I don't think women deserve any more respect than anybody else. People deserve respect (until proven otherwise). Sometimes, that means it's ok to disagree with a woman in chat, and say so. A disagreement should not be seen as disrespect.
What I find most disturbing is the number of 'white knights' rushing to the aid of a woman with bunch of vomit inducing platitudes and compliments in the vain hope that somehow they will be seen as a hero and 'respectful' male.
I'm not condoning the idiots who abuse and insult women here... just it's ok to debate with a woman and disagree! without some 50 men siding with some woman to gain favour.
Oh, and like conversation... the BEST folks I know I can argue with all night and still adore them. That's because of the way they behave when you disagree. It's easy to be nice when you want to get into someone's pants. It's far more telling to see how folks behave when they have a different point of view.
It's interesting actually... when folks disagree in the fora, you get a far better natured banter than when they disagree in a chatroom.
Somehow, the chatrooms pander to the worst mentalities and the fora tend to bring out the best!
big and broad subject,
yes there are women, and men who go on cam and lord it up, but if thats their thing so what?
i used to go on cam in my local romm, it wasnt for compliments, or for people to even comment, it was more of a case of people just seeing me as if we were sat in a cafe chatting, they could see who i was.
i didnt play sexually and would tend to turn the cam off at pub kicking out time as all the cam crawlers would be out in force.
i took all compliments as hot air, id seen the same guys same bullshit to any one and everyone and admit they dont mean it.
if i was sat in a cafe chatting to a friend and a guy walked in, just because he can see me dont mean i have to respond to him. same in chat room, especially if i happen to be set as busy on my status.
if i did decide to play then as someones said why would i wanna stop every few secs to say ty or hi etc? ffs would you walk into a swinging club, go into a room where play is on and expect the player to stop and have a chat with you?
same token, if i view a cam just to see who it is this does not give you the right to whisper me uninvited.
if they dont talk to you i think you just have to accept that.
remember there are plenty of people in the room who are not invisable just because they are not on cam.
xxx fem xx
yes there are women, and men who go on cam and lord it up, but if thats their thing so what?
i used to go on cam in my local romm, it wasnt for compliments, or for people to even comment, it was more of a case of people just seeing me as if we were sat in a cafe chatting, they could see who i was.
i didnt play sexually and would tend to turn the cam off at pub kicking out time as all the cam crawlers would be out in force.
i took all compliments as hot air, id seen the same guys same bullshit to any one and everyone and admit they dont mean it.
if i was sat in a cafe chatting to a friend and a guy walked in, just because he can see me dont mean i have to respond to him. same in chat room, especially if i happen to be set as busy on my status.
if i did decide to play then as someones said why would i wanna stop every few secs to say ty or hi etc? ffs would you walk into a swinging club, go into a room where play is on and expect the player to stop and have a chat with you?
same token, if i view a cam just to see who it is this does not give you the right to whisper me uninvited.
if they dont talk to you i think you just have to accept that.
remember there are plenty of people in the room who are not invisable just because they are not on cam.
xxx fem xx
Sexpert
I have it backwards, I go on the cam and compliment people who are watching me, with no response
Though I've a feeling that it's not very reliable and shows people as watching your cam all night when they're not.
Though I've a feeling that it's not very reliable and shows people as watching your cam all night when they're not.
Quote by CuddlySimon
I have it backwards, I go on the cam and compliment people who are watching me, with no response
Though I've a feeling that it's not very reliable and shows people as watching your cam all night when they're not.
I dont know about others but I always feel very self concious when I get a compliment, to the point I normally make a joke of it or take such a long time to compose a reply that does not make me look a vain conceited twat that it looks like i've ignored that person.
Reacher
Sex God
Why the fuck do you imagine they go on cam in the first place Wicked ? It aint to further their acting career.
Orgasminator
Ohhhh blimey Wicked. Bit harsh?
I haven't been on cam for years (mental note - have a look round a bit more of SH than just the forum lol) and when I used to, it wasn't on a swinging site - although it may as well have been. For me back then it totally was a confidence boost. I had no self esteem and it gave me a lot of confidence.
I can't comment on the chat rooms as I haven't been in, but back where I used to go on cam, it wasn't unusual to have 50-60 pm's coming at you at once. It's not physically possible to answer that many.
If you like looking then look. If you keep whinging and calling the women vain - chances are they'll fook off and not bother again and you'll be left with nothing to look at but men
Now.....wheres my cam...... :wink:
*Her*
I haven't been on cam for years (mental note - have a look round a bit more of SH than just the forum lol) and when I used to, it wasn't on a swinging site - although it may as well have been. For me back then it totally was a confidence boost. I had no self esteem and it gave me a lot of confidence.
I can't comment on the chat rooms as I haven't been in, but back where I used to go on cam, it wasn't unusual to have 50-60 pm's coming at you at once. It's not physically possible to answer that many.
If you like looking then look. If you keep whinging and calling the women vain - chances are they'll fook off and not bother again and you'll be left with nothing to look at but men
Now.....wheres my cam...... :wink:
*Her*
I was in no way referring to all women, many on here are friendly and polite. And yes I do turn their cams off but cant help but notice that they dont talk to anyone (are in private whispers) so why cant they get a room instead of taking up space on the beach bar.
And I understand it is nice for women to be seen on cam & I do appreciate the ones that are brave enough to do so & still retain some manners despite being bombarded with whispers from many men, despite no whispers/directing comments.
And I understand it is nice for women to be seen on cam & I do appreciate the ones that are brave enough to do so & still retain some manners despite being bombarded with whispers from many men, despite no whispers/directing comments.
Sex God
Quote by wickedways
I was in no way referring to all women, many on here are friendly and polite. And yes I do turn their cams off but cant help but notice that they dont talk to anyone (are in private whispers) so why cant they get a room instead of taking up space on the beach bar.
And I understand it is nice for women to be seen on cam & I do appreciate the ones that are brave enough to do so & still retain some manners despite being bombarded with whispers from many men, despite no whispers/directing comments.
But why should they get a room? Because they are not talking to you or the room in general, doesn't mean what they are doing is wrong? Maybe they get off on people watching? There is no law that states when in a chatroom you have to engage everybody in the room in dialogue.
As for taking up space, others would say providing a much needed service for the chatrooms because, lets be honest, without the ladies on cam, they would be far poorer for it. How many people would use the chat if all the women who used cams had a private room and would only let the select few in that they knew?
If you'd said women were on cam, being aggressive, obnoxious, making vile remarks and putting others down, fair enough. I'd agree with the vain sentiments. I am afraid though this sounds a bit too much like, "They aren't talking to me, so I think it's crap and wrong and I'm taking my ball home."
I have used the chat rooms longer than being in the forums.
Since using the chat rooms about two years ago, I always had a feeling I like to see who I am talking to and felt others must feel that way too, but I never wanted to go on cam in the main rooms, as I observed and watched for ages the expectations of some what a woman on cam was expected to do.
A thought occurred ages ago that to have what I wanted to be able to go on cam show my face without expectations from others was to open a room myself and see what happened.
I must say my vision worked over time the room became a safe haven for me and many others that could have a place where no matter if the other woman on cam were stripped we wouldn’t have any crude unwanted visitors as we all pulled together and politely told them to find somewhere else to go.
In the year I opened rooms I can’t ever remember having to kick anyone from the room or call an op as we were having problems in the room.
I wouldn’t call myself vain as I never went on cam for men’s attention I went on cam in a way of you wouldn’t go to a party and expect the host not to be visible.
I believe many that came to my room went away with a smile on their face, it was arousing to but we hardly ever spoke about sex in there, arousal comes from opening the mind for me and having a laugh and banter.
I have had many a funny night with a lot of people from here, many people I haven’t met but feel we have as we have shared many a nights laughing and having fun.
I miss those nights, the chat rooms just don’t feel the same anymore.
Maybe I need to start opening rooms again and lets get this party started.
Flower get your hat out I might be back.
Friday nights are party nights I will sort the music all I need are the guests.
Where have they all gone?
Since using the chat rooms about two years ago, I always had a feeling I like to see who I am talking to and felt others must feel that way too, but I never wanted to go on cam in the main rooms, as I observed and watched for ages the expectations of some what a woman on cam was expected to do.
A thought occurred ages ago that to have what I wanted to be able to go on cam show my face without expectations from others was to open a room myself and see what happened.
I must say my vision worked over time the room became a safe haven for me and many others that could have a place where no matter if the other woman on cam were stripped we wouldn’t have any crude unwanted visitors as we all pulled together and politely told them to find somewhere else to go.
In the year I opened rooms I can’t ever remember having to kick anyone from the room or call an op as we were having problems in the room.
I wouldn’t call myself vain as I never went on cam for men’s attention I went on cam in a way of you wouldn’t go to a party and expect the host not to be visible.
I believe many that came to my room went away with a smile on their face, it was arousing to but we hardly ever spoke about sex in there, arousal comes from opening the mind for me and having a laugh and banter.
I have had many a funny night with a lot of people from here, many people I haven’t met but feel we have as we have shared many a nights laughing and having fun.
I miss those nights, the chat rooms just don’t feel the same anymore.
Maybe I need to start opening rooms again and lets get this party started.
Flower get your hat out I might be back.
Friday nights are party nights I will sort the music all I need are the guests.
Where have they all gone?
Quote by flower411
I have used the chat rooms longer than being in the forums.
Since using the chat rooms about two years ago, I always had a feeling I like to see who I am talking to and felt others must feel that way too, but I never wanted to go on cam in the main rooms, as I observed and watched for ages the expectations of some what a woman on cam was expected to do.
A thought occurred ages ago that to have what I wanted to be able to go on cam show my face without expectations from others was to open a room myself and see what happened.
I must say my vision worked over time the room became a safe haven for me and many others that could have a place where no matter if the other woman on cam were stripped we wouldn’t have any crude unwanted visitors as we all pulled together and politely told them to find somewhere else to go.
In the year I opened rooms I can’t ever remember having to kick anyone from the room or call an op as we were having problems in the room.
I wouldn’t call myself vain as I never went on cam for men’s attention I went on cam in a way of you wouldn’t go to a party and expect the host not to be visible.
I believe many that came to my room went away with a smile on their face, it was arousing to but we hardly ever spoke about sex in there, arousal comes from opening the mind for me and having a laugh and banter.
I have had many a funny night with a lot of people from here, many people I haven’t met but feel we have as we have shared many a nights laughing and having fun.
I miss those nights, the chat rooms just don’t feel the same anymore.
Maybe I need to start opening rooms again and lets get this party started.
Flower get your hat out I might be back.
Friday nights are party nights I will sort the music all I need are the guests.
Where have they all gone?
I think a lot of em are still lurking about, wondering whatever happened to server four !!!
The Kent room has become a friendly place again too ....No idea why !!
Well now you can be in two places at once you wont have to choose.
you can split yourself in two.
I am sure you don't mind sharing yourself :P
I might use server 3, such a shame about server 4 people that want to find the room will I guess.
I might use both incase mine flops
