What makes a person? Is it (Nurture) bringing up, education, rearing of a child that makes them into what they are?
Or is it Nature? Their inherit genes that makes a person.
I believe most of who we are is down to nurture and experiences in life that make us what we are, what you put in you get out.
There has been a lot of studying in this subject. I was asked when my twins were born if they could be studied which I agreed too, as they can tell a lot from twins to give them an insight into what makes a person.
What do you think?
Nurture or nature?
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What do you think nurture or nature?
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I think its a bit of both...
Children do learn from the way they have been raised but then some are raised "properly" with good moral standards and still turn out wrong uns
Others are left to their own devices when young and given the minimum of love etc and turn out to be really nice well adjusted adults....
Or could it be that what they experience as children puts them off that way of life forever :dunno:
I'm gonna give up replying to serious threads as it makes my big toe ache :-(
Children do learn from the way they have been raised but then some are raised "properly" with good moral standards and still turn out wrong uns
Others are left to their own devices when young and given the minimum of love etc and turn out to be really nice well adjusted adults....
Or could it be that what they experience as children puts them off that way of life forever :dunno:
I'm gonna give up replying to serious threads as it makes my big toe ache :-(
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I'm gonna give up replying to serious threads as it makes my big toe ache
Please dont give up on posting!
I like people that give vaild points to ponder over!
I will give you a nice foot massage!
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Sex God
Mmmmmm? Difficult one.
I think "Nature" gives us the basic tools and the predisposition, and "Nurture" is the social conditioning or personal choices made. Looking at twins can give an insight into how this works, however even twins are never in exactly the same situation at all times. Therefore our own separate and individual experiences can modify the way we use these "Nature" tools.
If we were PCs for instance, imagine we were Dell computers running Windows Vista, part from crashing every five seconds, the programmes which are used and the way they are used would differ from one person to the next. Also as different programmes are loaded onto the computer so would it's behaviour change, making it more likely to crash, more likely to slow down etc.
I think this is similar to "Nature" and "Nuture". It is an interplay, neither is static and each can modify the other.
I think "Nature" gives us the basic tools and the predisposition, and "Nurture" is the social conditioning or personal choices made. Looking at twins can give an insight into how this works, however even twins are never in exactly the same situation at all times. Therefore our own separate and individual experiences can modify the way we use these "Nature" tools.
If we were PCs for instance, imagine we were Dell computers running Windows Vista, part from crashing every five seconds, the programmes which are used and the way they are used would differ from one person to the next. Also as different programmes are loaded onto the computer so would it's behaviour change, making it more likely to crash, more likely to slow down etc.
I think this is similar to "Nature" and "Nuture". It is an interplay, neither is static and each can modify the other.
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What makes a person? Is it (Nurture) bringing up, education, rearing of a child that makes them into what they are?
Or is it Nature? Their inherit genes that makes a person.
I believe most of who we are is down to nurture and experiences in life that make us what we are, what you put in you get out.
There has been a lot of studying in this subject. I was asked when my twins were born if they could be studied which I agreed too, as they can tell a lot from twins to give them an insight into what makes a person.
What do you think?
Nurture or nature?
Nurture for sure. I believe that the first 12 years of ones life is so important, and it sows the seeds for the rest of ones life. Genes I feel have no bearing in the way you turn out as a person. Good parenting and a loving enviroment from birth, makes you the person you grow up to be.
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Nurture for sure. I believe that the first 12 years of ones life is so important, and it sows the seeds for the rest of ones life. Genes I feel have no bearing in the way you turn out as a person. Good parenting and a loving enviroment from birth, makes you the person you grow up to be.
Nurture is very important, however I can't agree that genes have no bearing. Genes are the blueprint that nurture builds on. If there is a 'mistake' in the blueprint it can have a great effect on not only the person directly, but how others behave towards that person.
Even if there is no 'mistake', your genes control lots of things that influence how you are likely to respond to nurture, and the way people will react to you. If your genes make you brainy and beautiful you will have a different nurturing experience than if you are stupid and ugly for instance.
It's interesting I have to admit. If you take a baby of 3 months old, would they exhibit signs of being a psychopath? that same baby turns into a 30 year old killer? what goes wrong along the way?
I still think there is something genetic that shapes a person therefore nurture prevails. The nurturing can go anyway from there on. A young child born into a decent family who wants for nothing, money no object all the love in the world could still turn out to be a horrible person, and it goes the same for people born in to less fortunate families, they can grow up having had nothing, no love no taught values or lifeskills but yet still do alright for themselves.
There's an old saying "show me a child of 7yrs old and I'll show you the man". A person's personality is formed by the age of 7yrs old, nurturing is only a few years in by then.
Genes have a massive impact on who you are. My answer therefore, nature.
I still think there is something genetic that shapes a person therefore nurture prevails. The nurturing can go anyway from there on. A young child born into a decent family who wants for nothing, money no object all the love in the world could still turn out to be a horrible person, and it goes the same for people born in to less fortunate families, they can grow up having had nothing, no love no taught values or lifeskills but yet still do alright for themselves.
There's an old saying "show me a child of 7yrs old and I'll show you the man". A person's personality is formed by the age of 7yrs old, nurturing is only a few years in by then.
Genes have a massive impact on who you are. My answer therefore, nature.
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Genes I feel have no bearing in the way you turn out as a person..
sorry to only highlight a minute part of your post... which i liked by the way...... but im not so sure that genes are as un-important as this.
Of course genes do play a part but...if you have a moody Mother does not mean the child will be moody too. Some things are of course passed on through the genes like illness, but how one brings their children up shapes there lives mainly. Children can be complete opposites to their parents even though they share the same genes.
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Of course genes do play a part but how one brings their children up shapes there lives mainly. Children can be complete opposites to their parents even though they share the same genes.
Keep in mind that a child will only share 50% of each parent's genes. They can also display characteristics that were inherited from a parent even if they didn't manifest themselves in said parent. This is a massive over-simplification, but think of it as a recessive gene - like a green-eyed parent having a blue-eyed child. The parent had the blue gene all along but for him, it's overridden by the green gene. The child only inherits the parent's blue gene and without a green gene to cancel it, displays blue eyes. The same situation can affect genes coding for behavioural traits.
I looked at a fair bit of the nature vs nurture debate when I was at uni. The main gist of all the research I was was that while we'd love to think otherwise, nature is the dominant factor. Of course it is possible to "spoil" a person through bad or abusive parenting. But in the main, nature is increadibly strong at laying down the foundations of personality. It also lays down how someone responds to their "nurturing" - basic traits such as whether someone has a cheerful personality or worries a lot, whether people are easy-going or easily stressed etc are all hard-coded in our genes. Nurture provides only the fine tuning.
60-40 to nature, I reckon.
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Of course genes do play a part but how one brings their children up shapes there lives mainly. Children can be complete opposites to their parents even though they share the same genes.
Keep in mind that a child will only share 50% of each parent's genes. They can also display characteristics that were inherited from a parent even if they didn't manifest themselves in said parent. This is a massive over-simplification, but think of it as a recessive gene - like a green-eyed parent having a blue-eyed child. The parent had the blue gene all along but for him, it's overridden by the green gene. The child only inherits the parent's blue gene and without a green gene to cancel it, displays blue eyes. The same situation can affect genes coding for behavioural traits.
I looked at a fair bit of the nature vs nurture debate when I was at uni. The main gist of all the research I was was that while we'd love to think otherwise, nature is the dominant factor. Of course it is possible to "spoil" a person through bad or abusive parenting. But in the main, nature is increadibly strong at laying down the foundations of personality. It also lays down how someone responds to their "nurturing" - basic traits such as whether someone has a cheerful personality or worries a lot, whether people are easy-going or easily stressed etc are all hard-coded in our genes. Nurture provides only the fine tuning.
60-40 to nature, I reckon.
Well said!
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But in the main, nature is increadibly strong at laying down the foundations of personality. It also lays down how someone responds to their "nurturing" - basic traits such as whether someone has a cheerful personality or worries a lot, whether people are easy-going or easily stressed etc are all hard-coded in our genes. Nurture provides only the fine tuning.
But isnt it also true to say, children when young mimic their parents responses. When you meet new people children will look at their parents to see their reaction. If the parents smiles the child relaxes, if the parent show uncertainty the child can become anxious. In the animal world mimic behavour happens alot, I also see it in human behavour.
Warming the Bed
You're no doubt right there - I wasn't saying that nurture doesn't play a role. Kids, humans as much as other animals, learn a lot through imitation. My toddler daughter shows me that every day... *sighs*
Even there however I reckon it isn't always straightforward to untangle what's nature and what's nurture. Is kid, seeing mum tense up when entering a new environment, getting fretful because it takes its cues from mum - or is it because the kid has inherited mum's disposition to feeling nervous?
It can be hard to tell, which is why twins are so useful in studying these issues (especially when you get the rare case of identical twins raised apart).
Even there however I reckon it isn't always straightforward to untangle what's nature and what's nurture. Is kid, seeing mum tense up when entering a new environment, getting fretful because it takes its cues from mum - or is it because the kid has inherited mum's disposition to feeling nervous?
It can be hard to tell, which is why twins are so useful in studying these issues (especially when you get the rare case of identical twins raised apart).
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It's interesting I have to admit. If you take a baby of 3 months old, would they exhibit signs of being a psychopath? that same baby turns into a 30 year old killer? what goes wrong along the way?
I still think there is something genetic that shapes a person therefore nurture prevails. The nurturing can go anyway from there on. A young child born into a decent family who wants for nothing, money no object all the love in the world could still turn out to be a horrible person, and it goes the same for people born in to less fortunate families, they can grow up having had nothing, no love no taught values or lifeskills but yet still do alright for themselves.
There's an old saying "show me a child of 7yrs old and I'll show you the man". A person's personality is formed by the age of 7yrs old, nurturing is only a few years in by then.
Genes have a massive impact on who you are. My answer therefore, nature.
Interesting Mar...
We used to have an expert come and do our inhouse training on Child Protection and her specialism was "ped******" , her theory was that all "p's" are born with that with instinct (or as she called it disease). surrounding, family, environment etc etc had no part in what they did later in life. Some of the research and work with *P's* she's done seems to bare that out.. makes interesting reading!
Myself, I believe its both.....
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Genes I feel have no bearing in the way you turn out as a person..
sorry to only highlight a minute part of your post... which i liked by the way...... but im not so sure that genes are as un-important as this.
Of course genes do play a part but...if you have a moody Mother does not mean the child will be moody too.Some things are of course passed on through the genes like illness, but how one brings their children up shapes there lives mainly. Children can be complete opposites to their parents even though they share the same genes.
I have to disagree. My dad is a bad tempered tw*t.. (sorry but I don't get on with him), my brother is exactly the same temperament. My sister displays a bit of his temperament and a lot of her Aunty, she's a moody cow also.
I have a bit of both in me, I have his quick temper but know how to curb it, I also have my mother's depressive nature but again have learnt how to curb it.
Temperament is defo in the genes.
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It's interesting I have to admit. If you take a baby of 3 months old, would they exhibit signs of being a psychopath? that same baby turns into a 30 year old killer? what goes wrong along the way?
I still think there is something genetic that shapes a person therefore nurture prevails. The nurturing can go anyway from there on. A young child born into a decent family who wants for nothing, money no object all the love in the world could still turn out to be a horrible person, and it goes the same for people born in to less fortunate families, they can grow up having had nothing, no love no taught values or lifeskills but yet still do alright for themselves.
There's an old saying "show me a child of 7yrs old and I'll show you the man". A person's personality is formed by the age of 7yrs old, nurturing is only a few years in by then.
Genes have a massive impact on who you are. My answer therefore, nature.
Interesting Mar...
We used to have an expert come and do our inhouse training on Child Protection and her specialism was "ped******" , her theory was that all "p's" are born with that with instinct (or as she called it disease). surrounding, family, environment etc etc had no part in what they did later in life. Some of the research and work with *P's* she's done seems to bare that out.. makes interesting reading!
Myself, I believe its both.....
I can imagine, I find research like this very interesting
