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Quote by Vix
Roger? My penis did not grow 3". It did not grow at all. Can I get compensation for the distress?

Don't believe his reply. He sent me a 2 word pm...'I lied'
Nice.... mad
Ah, now my secret is out. I'm really evil. :twisted:
Quote by surreycouple2003
You've got me all confused with your proclaimation mon ami - page 2 of the Sun???

Page Three of the Sun traditionally carries a picture of a nude or largely undressed model. Obviously, anyone who sees you looking at a copy of The Sun open at pages 2 and 3 (page 2 faces page 3) will thing you're a pervert ogling the softcore pornography. If you don't like this idea, it's best to make sure people know that you're actually reading a story on Page Two... honest. ;)
Quote by roger743
Page Three of the Sun traditionally carries a picture of a nude or largely undressed model. Obviously, anyone who sees you looking at a copy of The Sun open at pages 2 and 3 (page 2 faces page 3) will thing you're a pervert ogling the softcore pornography. If you don't like this idea, it's best to make sure people know that you're actually reading a story on Page Two... honest. ;)

ahhhh.. I getcha.
I will add that to my repetoire of retorts and claim it as my own...!!!
Cheers wink
Dxxx
Friendship seems to be more important to the single guys in this thread whereas with couples its sex.
Not suggesting its the case here, but perhaps a lot of the single guys on Swingers sites are lonely? This is not being stated to be derogatory merely an observation
Quote by Happy Cats
Friendship seems to be more important to the single guys in this thread whereas with couples its sex.
Not suggesting its the case here, but perhaps a lot of the single guys on Swingers sites are lonely? This is not being stated to be derogatory merely an observation

Thats not the case at all.....
Its like Blind date,
When its the girls turn to pick 1 of 3 guys the guys make their answers all romantic.
When its the guys turn to pick 1 of 3 girls the girls turn on the sex and tacky 'double entendres'
Same thing here.... wink
Dxxx
Quote by Happy Cats
Friendship seems to be more important to the single guys in this thread whereas with couples its sex.
Not suggesting its the case here, but perhaps a lot of the single guys on Swingers sites are lonely? This is not being stated to be derogatory merely an observation

Maybe not just the single guys. I'm a single F and friendship comes first. I've tried the quick fuck with a stranger. Not my thing thanks. If I want to feel like a cheap whore I'd at least charge. Sex, for me, is better when I can look into his eyes and connect.
Right!!
So they're all lying about this friendship thing. :shock:
Quote by Libra-Love
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Maybe not just the single guys. I'm a single F and friendship comes first. I've tried the quick fuck with a stranger. Not my thing thanks. If I want to feel like a cheap whore I'd at least charge. Sex, for me, is better when I can look into his eyes and connect.

But thats not necessarily friendship - thats attraction mentally & physically
But then what of the friends I have made here who I don't wanna fuck? rolleyes
Quote by Happy Cats
So they're all lying about this friendship thing. :shock:

Or they're all lying about this "quick fuck" thing...
For me, Swinging is about being able to openly discuss sex with like-minded people.
I've got plenty of friends, both male and female, but with a few notable exceptions, I wouldn't want to jump into bed with any of them.
I feel more comfortable keeping my friends and my Swinging friends apart.
Quote by foxylady 123
hmmmm not sure surreycouple. maybe that's why we're intrigued when we find the site, wondering what sexual antics await, but i think for many of us, the social side and the friendships become more important, and the main reason for being here changes. there are many here i'll probably never swing with most likely, but i still come here cos they are, i hope, my friends. sex is definitely not the real reason i'm still here.
n x x x

Hi Neil.
What arent you sure about - you have basically agreed with me.
Swinging is about sex, S-E-X sex.
None of us would be here if we didnt have just that little bit more interest in sex than your average man / woman (whatever that is!!).
This site doesnt just pop up when your doing a search for the discography of Val Doonican (unless Mark has been doing something interesting with serach engines!!) - you have to be looking for a site like this.
Yes indeed, reasons for remaining within the SH community (moreover this forum) may change but ultimately the real reason we are all here is sex.
Whilst I'm not casting any aspersion's at you and this is a very general statement but I feel anyone who claims that the social aspect is their main reason for being here is pandering to some sort of sychofantic regime where they feel its neccessary to shout from the rooftops that the social side is more important.
Dont you think..??
Dxxx
Your right neil!! This shoiuld be the one place we can just say "i want a fuck" and not have to dress it up!!!
erm . . . in a word . . . no!
and now in several more words . . .
there are many here who do not swing, and have little intention of swinging. and i discovered the chatroom by accident when we used to swamp it at work, so i never looked for the site. that may be unusual i don't know? what kept me here we're the personalities, and being intrigued.
yes i've had some pretty damn good sex, but if i decided tomorrow i didn't want to swing ((( and those that know me know that's always been a bit contentious for me ))) i would still be here. so once again, no i'm not here for the sex as such.
and no i'm not being sycophantic and toeing the party line.
neil x x x ;)
Quote by Libra-Love
But then what of the friends I have made here who I don't wanna fuck? rolleyes

But the issue is - you have made friends here but was that the driving force? Also do they have to become friends first not just acquantances before you will fuck them?
I find that with SH the sex thing is already out in the open. Likes and dislikes etc are discussed openly and honestly within the first few pm's or emails then you move on to other more important areas of yourselves. Knowing you're not being judge on your sexual preferences, orientation, desires or wants makes it that much easier to genuinely open up more personal areas of yourself. That's the difference between SH and other forums. Even us non-swingers get to join in and are accepted for who we are. We inturn bring the perception of swinging back into perspective to some of the less liberal members of society. And who knows, curiosity brought us here, where will that curiosity eventually take us? What is important is that the forum has proved swinging is not just about 'come fuck me now'!
And yes Happy Cats, for me personally there has to be more than just aquantances before I'll fuck anyone thanks. But that's just me. I know where that kinda mindset comes from in my life. I've accepted it and moved on from it. But the repeated abuse has stimmied me from enjoying any kind of freedom when it comes to sex with strangers or outside of MY box. It's a mind-fuck.
Quote by roger743
Or they're all lying about this "quick fuck" thing...

So therefore a quick fuck with someone friendly & attractive or swinging with someone friendly and attractive is out of the question until friendship has been achieved
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And yes Happy Cats, for me personally there has to be more than just aquantances before I'll fuck anyone thanks. But that's just me. I know where that kinda mindset comes from in my life. I've accepted it and moved on from it. But the repeated abuse has stimmied me from enjoying any kind of freedom when it comes to sex with strangers or outside of MY box. It's a mind-fuck.

Point well made - however the male of the sex is different and, only a guess, friendship is not important as having something in common when it comes to a quick fuck
Please don't over-generalise.
If all it's about is finding someone for a quick shag then I'd be better off just paying for it. For me swinging is about sex and friendship, crossing new boundaries, trying new experiences and making new memories. It's about fun for me, my partner and anyone else who is involved and I have far more fun with someone who I can connect with on a mental as well as a physical level. I can have just as much fun with someone spending an evening talking in the pub, or a night of acrobatics in the bedroom smile
I'm not going to sit here and say I only come here to make friends and that sex is the furthest thing from my mind. But at the same time it's not the be all and end all.
Quote by neilinleeds
there are many here who do not swing, and have little intention of swinging

So I guess that would make them 'Not Swingers'..??
Quote by neilinleeds
what kept me here we're the personalities, and being intrigued.

Was that being intrigued in SEX by any chance Neil???
Basically you can dress it up however you like and tell the cows about all the reasons you're here till they're blue in the face - but swinging is about sex.
People who come here either come here because they enjoy recreational sex or they come here to be around people who enjoy recreational sex.
Swinging is about sex.
Women didnt used to pick guys car keys out of pile and then go off for a quick chat about their favourite film etc etc - they went off to have sex.
If its not about sex then it aint swinging - simple.
Dxxx
Youre right - they are generalisations and therefore guesses
These posts in no way have way meant to be criticisms just observations. The great thing about swinging and forums are they are a mixed bag of opinions and taste.
Like the debate- but trying not to offend!
Quote by surreycouple2003
People who come here either come here because they enjoy recreational sex or they come here to be around people who enjoy recreational sex.

Different question, but when is sex not recreational?
Quote by surreycouple2003
there are many here who do not swing, and have little intention of swinging

So I guess that would make them 'Not Swingers'..??
Quote by neilinleeds
what kept me here we're the personalities, and being intrigued.

Was that being intrigued in SEX by any chance Neil???
Basically you can dress it up however you like and tell the cows about all the reasons you're here till they're blue in the face - but swinging is about sex.
People who come here either come here because they enjoy recreational sex or they come here to be around people who enjoy recreational sex.
Swinging is about sex.
Women didnt used to pick guys car keys out of pile and then go off for a quick chat about their favourite film etc etc - they went off to have sex.
If its not about sex then it aint swinging - simple.
Dxxx
Hello....we all know swinging is about sex, but the question was, what does swinging mean to you? So if swinging is about sex then one would assume (ass-u-me) the answer is on a broader spectrum than just sex, yes please. Or am I wrong?
Quote by surreycouple2003
First and foremost its about the sex - you can find friends anywhere.
That doesnt mean that the social side isnt important - IT IS, and we have met some people through running parties that we could genuinely call 'friends'.
If a person felt that their Social life was bit lacking I would be very surprised if their intial thought to remedy that would be to join a Swinging Community - people come here because they have what is probably a larger than average sex drive / interest.
Because they are amongst like minded people and because of the annonymity that the internet offers it is very easy to be open about their feelings & interests and because of this its easy to form friendships due to the common bond - sex.
Becasue of this I find it hard to believe that people get into swinging purely for the social aspect - I have no doubts that the social aspect is very important and is probably a reason why people remain in the swinging community but Sex is the real reason we are all here.
wink
Dxxx

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I can't totally agree that sex is the sole motivator for my participation in swinging. For me personally, it's more about sharing intimacy with others. It's quite true that you can probably find friends anywhere you look - like-minded people with whom you can share social, intellectual and even emotional intimacies - but societal convention seems to dictate that physical intimacy is only appropriate in the context of 1-on-1 "monogamous" relationships. To embrace these other aspects of friendship whilst adamantly denying yourselves the physical possibilities seems incomplete, imho...like you're missing out on the full potential of friendship.
So, yes, the sex is a major factor, but only because swingers are one of the rare groups that are openly willing to explore the physical potential of friendship in addition to its other aspects. As Vix mentioned earlier, our partners have to share other interests as well, or at least be able to hold up their end of an articulate conversation! I wouldn't swing at all if it weren't for the social side, as I've never been able to get my head around the idea of sharing my body with total strangers. There has to be some other "spark" there beyond the physical, even if it's purely intellectual. To that end, we once got an ad reply from a beautiful young couple who lived just 30mi away from us. However, they made no secret in their e-mail that they just wanted sex, and weren't interested in any other sort of social connection whatsoever. We immediately binned them after sending a polite "thanks, but no thanks" response. Nothing against people who are only out for a shag, but that's just not for us.
Now, I'm not generally the most social person, preferring a quiet conversation amongst a small group of friends to the noise and distraction of "clubbing". When I am out and about, I tend to stick with people I know and have something in common with, not venturing off into "unknown territory". Thus, my opportunities for meeting new people is a bit limited. That's my own fault, I know, and I feel extremely blessed that Vix is the vivacious, flirty person that she is... :love: ...if it weren't for that, I probably wouldn't have much of a social life at all!
Another blessing worth mentioning are on-line forums like Swinging Heaven. I could care less about the anonymity - as most everyone we know are fully aware of what Vix & I get up to - but communities like this give me the opportunity to find like-minded people whom I wouldn't normally encounter otherwise. The combination of being a bisexual person who abhors clubbing is the kiss of death in terms of finding relationships (unless there are some nice, quiet bi- gathering places that no one's bothered to tell me about!). Sure, it wasn't a problem when I was at university, but that was back in my late-teens and early-20s. So, apart from forums like this, where would I go to meet others who shared my sexual orientation - or were even tolerant of it, for that matter?! Thank Ah Pook for the internet!!
Finally, swinging gives me the opportunity to be in a committed, loving relationship with one person without having to lose sight of my bisexuality. I had several bi-friends growing up who eventually got married and, years later, would tell me how much they regretting having put half of their sexuality "on the shelf". In fact, I was in that situation myself for 17 years, until I met Vix. It's such a pleasure to be able to walk through town together, pointing out to each other all the men and women that we both fancy. Even if we didn't act on it (as we sometimes do), it's great just to be able to share that! As such, swinging gives me a chance to just be myself, without having to conceal or deny any aspects of my sexuality from my partner or anyone else.
So, sure, sex is certainly a motivator for being involved in the swinging lifestyle. But, for me, it represents a whole lot more...as it gives me the freedom to just be myself.
~Reese! surprised
Quote by roger743
People who come here either come here because they enjoy recreational sex or they come here to be around people who enjoy recreational sex.

Different question, but when is sex not recreational?
When you belong to one of those religions that only permits sex for reproduction - not entirely sure which ones that is but I'd hazard a gues at Jehova's Witness or Plymouth Bretherin.
It was called marriage in my case :cry:
Quote by warwick
It was called marriage in my case :cry:

lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote by Libra-Love
Hello....we all know swinging is about sex, but the question was, what does swinging mean to you?

Hi there Libra
First an foremost sex is the reason I am into Swinging - definitely.
I do not wish that statement to detract from the fact (and it is a fact) that I have met some great people because of swinging, but if you ask me the question
'What does swinging mean to you?'
then my answer would be recreational sex with like minded adults.
If people on here frown on me for that then so be it - but I'm only being honest.
Quote by Libra-Love
So if swinging is about sex then one would assume (ass-u-me) the answer is on a broader spectrum than just sex, yes please. Or am I wrong?

Sorry Libra, not quite sure what you mean by that?
wink
Dxxx
Point made, noted and accepted as I hope everyone else's view points have been accepted too. :P
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Good question Heather. biggrin
I guess for me and Steve (i think) we have always been adventurous and it was almost like a natural step forwars really.
Though when we first joined this site,which was when we first got into it,then i don't think that either of us realised what great friendships we would i think that swinging for us is primarily about the friendships with open minded people and if we get anything sexual out of it then its an added bonus! :D
I also think that swinging is a way of exploration also,finding out more about ourselves and the different things we like that we never wouldve imagined before.

Youve definately put what its about for both of us.I remember when we first started talking about it thinking that it would be like that bloody car god i was wrong lol