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Why can`t I just say no...??

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I really wish I could learn to say no I find it so hard...
For example today whilst going about my daily business at home some Jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door, so being me and not wanting to be rude I listened to them for a few minutes before asking the question "if there is a god why is there so much suffering in the world?". Out comes their bibles so they can read me a passage from the bible about suffering!. Now im not going to knock anyone else's beliefs but I really don't think I believe in god. They were really nice people and I really didn't know how to say no thanks when they offered me home bible lessons.... They have left me with some homework, I have to read a chapter from the book “the bibles teachings” and cross reference the quotes to my bible!!!. I really don't know how I get myself into these situations I really wish I was more assertive.
They are coming back next Tuesday for my first lesson :shock: and other that not being at home how can I get more assertive between now and then so I can just say im not interested?!?!?!.
Go to the library and get a book of Satanic verse, tell them you've found a book which is much more you and would they like to read some passages together?
H.x
I just tell them that my lord Satan would not be happy with me if I listened to their teachings. Though in your circumstance I'd add that I was unable to do the homework as I had to organise a group sex session, and burnishing all the leather and latex was too time consuming.
But seriously, you said that you didn't believe in god, just tell them so and the fact you have no interest in learning about her wink
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: . I did think of inviting a few "friends" round and be mid fun when they knock!! :giggle:
Or get some friends around and be butt naked when they turned up, tell them you're a naturist and if they want to come in they'd have to strip off.
H.x
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So funny :giggle: especially the humpty dumpty picture!
whilst there educating you on there way's stayed logged into SH........that could scare them off........or it could backfire and they'd imagine your further astray and would have to bring out the reinforcements
why dont you be open minded and play along with it,JW has the most intense bible studies they dont certainly preach gospel according to 'feel good factor'...dont mention world suffering to them,they never contribute a single penny to charity
but while you are at it can you ask them why they are financing the UN yet they denouce war..they will run a mile
i do believe there is God but i just dont like the preachers attitudes
Lyns... I have a few bibles my JW grandmother bought for me confused :? happy to drop them over so yo can read up before they arrive. lol
Just open the door and say "Sorry, I'm not in". confused :? :?
When they start to talk, just say again, "sorry, I'm not in". Just keep repeating this until they either get the hint or just give up and feel convinced that you are a nutter and are not worthy of their time!! lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I really wish I could learn to say no I find it so hard...
For example today whilst going about my daily business at home some Jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door, so being me and not wanting to be rude I listened to them for a few minutes before asking the question "if there is a god why is there so much suffering in the world?". Out comes their bibles so they can read me a passage from the bible about suffering!. Now im not going to knock anyone else's beliefs but I really don't think I believe in god. They were really nice people and I really didn't know how to say no thanks when they offered me home bible lessons.... They have left me with some homework, I have to read a chapter from the book “the bibles teachings” and cross reference the quotes to my bible!!!. I really don't know how I get myself into these situations I really wish I was more assertive.
They are coming back next Tuesday for my first lesson :shock: and other that not being at home how can I get more assertive between now and then so I can just say im not interested?!?!?!.

Because you were brought up to be polite, tolerant and listen to other people's perspectives of course.
If they left you any books, put them outside by the door with a note saying something like "thank you but I have changed my mind" and leave it at that.
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I really wish I could learn to say no I find it so hard...
For example today whilst going about my daily business at home some Jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door, so being me and not wanting to be rude I listened to them for a few minutes before asking the question "if there is a god why is there so much suffering in the world?". Out comes their bibles so they can read me a passage from the bible about suffering!. Now im not going to knock anyone else's beliefs but I really don't think I believe in god. They were really nice people and I really didn't know how to say no thanks when they offered me home bible lessons.... They have left me with some homework, I have to read a chapter from the book “the bibles teachings” and cross reference the quotes to my bible!!!. I really don't know how I get myself into these situations I really wish I was more assertive.
They are coming back next Tuesday for my first lesson :shock: and other that not being at home how can I get more assertive between now and then so I can just say im not interested?!?!?!.

No you flaming well don't woman! smackbottom
I've tried everything with the JW's over the years, including telling them that I'm the antichrist. They asked me if I'd like to talk about it. rolleyes
I'll have a word with my best mate, she talked to them about a particularly scary cult- and they ran like hell! Can't remember their name though dunno

Ok. I'll stop now.
H.x
I have great fun with JWs :-)
But you have to know a some detail about their beliefs first.
In brief.....
i) They HAVE to spend so much of their time going door-to-door (even if they don't want to). They go in twos, a newcomer (who will do most of the talking) and an experienced JW (who will step in if the other needs help).
ii) They believe literally in what the bible says, and do not believe that they need to apply any interpretation.
iii) They believe that only 144,000 people will ever go to 'heaven' the remainder will go to 'Paradise Earth'
There's a whole lot more (nonsense), but with these basic facts, you can run rings around them and get them tied up in knots.
Firstly, I ask them questions that they are quite happy to confirm eg. do they believe in the bible; does the bible contain everything they need to know; is it possible for people to interpret the boble in different ways (they say no, and that there is only one meaning); etc. etc...
I then go on to ask them if I will go to heaven. They will explain no (they believe that only 144,000 will go to heaven ie. those that died before 1935 - I know, it's bazarre, but it's what they believe.)
So I ask them how they know that? They will come up with some nonsense. I ask them to show me where in the bible it says that only 144,000 (before 1935) will go to heaven. Hmmm....they get stumped here because it doesn't say so. I then keep repeating my questions - do they believe in the bible; does the bible contain all the truth; where does it mention 144,000.....
I have the second JW joining in the conversation at this point.....
They won't come up with a satisfactory answer....
I then ask some more questions.
If I do not believe in God will I be banished from Paradise Earth. They will say yes.
If a baby, or a child, or some people in the wilderness have never heard about god, or the bible, then will they be banned from 'Paradise Earth'. They will say no. (They believe that you are only banished if you have heard of God and choose not to believe.)
Hence, I ask, by going around the community and introducing people to the 'notion' of God, are they then actually forcing those people to be banished from Paradise Earth? Which is actually logically true.
I then go on to say, that I would have rather not been intriduced to God, and therefore be able to pass into Paradise Earth. By knocking on my door, they have effectively banished me themselves! I am not happy!
Ok, ok...that's enough of my rambling.....I just have fun playing games with the JWs....
Right.....now I need to perform some cunninglus......
2 or 3 hours should be enough......
Anyone care to join me....?
Don
Quote by don9999
I have great fun with JWs :-)
But you have to know a some detail about their beliefs first.
In brief.....
i) They HAVE to spend so much of their time going door-to-door (even if they don't want to). They go in twos, a newcomer (who will do most of the talking) and an experienced JW (who will step in if the other needs help).
ii) They believe literally in what the bible says, and do not believe that they need to apply any interpretation.
iii) They believe that only 144,000 people will ever go to 'heaven' the remainder will go to 'Paradise Earth'
There's a whole lot more (nonsense), but with these basic facts, you can run rings around them and get them tied up in knots.
Firstly, I ask them questions that they are quite happy to confirm eg. do they believe in the bible; does the bible contain everything they need to know; is it possible for people to interpret the boble in different ways (they say no, and that there is only one meaning); etc. etc...
I then go on to ask them if I will go to heaven. They will explain no (they believe that only 144,000 will go to heaven ie. those that died before 1935 - I know, it's bazarre, but it's what they believe.)
So I ask them how they know that? They will come up with some nonsense. I ask them to show me where in the bible it says that only 144,000 (before 1935) will go to heaven. Hmmm....they get stumped here because it doesn't say so. I then keep repeating my questions - do they believe in the bible; does the bible contain all the truth; where does it mention 144,000.....
I have the second JW joining in the conversation at this point.....
They won't come up with a satisfactory answer....
I then ask some more questions.
If I do not believe in God will I be banished from Paradise Earth. They will say yes.
If a baby, or a child, or some people in the wilderness have never heard about god, or the bible, then will they be banned from 'Paradise Earth'. They will say no. (They believe that you are only banished if you have heard of God and choose not to believe.)
Hence, I ask, by going around the community and introducing people to the 'notion' of God, are they then actually forcing those people to be banished from Paradise Earth? Which is actually logically true.
I then go on to say, that I would have rather not been intriduced to God, and therefore be able to pass into Paradise Earth. By knocking on my door, they have effectively banished me themselves! I am not happy!
Ok, ok...that's enough of my rambling.....I just have fun playing games with the JWs....
Right.....now I need to perform some cunninglus......
2 or 3 hours should be enough......
Anyone care to join me....?
Don

I rather like that.. biggrin except the bit about the boble, I had a hat with a boble on it as a kid...I had no idea it held any religious significance till now.....worrying ain't it how you can miss the signs
When they knock again, just say, with a lovely smile on your face, "thank you, I'm not interested", and give them their stuff back.
If they say anything, just interupt and say again, "thank you, I'm not interested".
There's no need to be rude, or nasty, or anything that will make you feel bad - this can be done, you can do this, and they will go away thinking, "what a nice lady."
Iv'e done it - it works.
:thumbup:
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Lyns... I have a few bibles my JW grandmother bought for me confused :? happy to drop them over so yo can read up before they arrive. lol

Thanks rolleyes Will look forward to it :giggle:
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Ok. I'll stop now.
H.x

rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: You are crackers :giggle:
Thankyou for all your advice kiss. I think im either gonna go down the "leave the book outside with a note route" or I will be really really brave and just tell them "sorry i've decided im not interested"!!!.
Ask them why Lot wasn't turned into a pillar of salt after he'd bonked his daughters!
My dealings with JH lead me to think you wont have much resistance once they realise that you are sincere in not wanting to accept their message. Be resolute within yourself if you don't want to share their beliefs. They'll soon accept it.
Good luck.
There's always the option of telling them that you are only interested in religions that support group sex as a method of worship, especially with the mantra "Oh God, Oh God, Oh God" :twisted:
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There's always the option of telling them that you are only interested in religions that support group sex as a method of worship, especially with the mantra "Oh God, Oh God, Oh God" :twisted:

Reminds me of a time not so long ago when I had to grab someone by the ears & say "Will you please stop doing that?!?!?" "Why?" was the response...."Because you keep making me say 'OH GOD' and I'm an atheist FFS!" :twisted:
I remember a time not too long ago to be lost in memory that someone I knew was being courted by a Baptist Church Evangelist team. The person being courted was being drip fed Being 'born again' information quite intensely. They were also introduced into family groups and taken to faith healing meetings and all sorts of 'feel good and wonder at it all' events. This making them feel all wanted and important because at that point they were. This went on and on until the person was almost cajoled into give testimony and "accepting Jesus as their Saviour" just so as too remain accepted and wanted by their 'new found friends'
However the person this was happening to did not realise the hurt that was being piled onto their partner as their partner could not say anything or do anything for fear of being scolded and told that they were trying to turn them against the friends that had succeeded in making and that they did not understand because they wouldn't accept god into their lives. The partner cried and cried for the loss of their loved one, pleaded with them to see sense but they were just one against many, and the many being the partner and the Church. It took years to repair the harm if it is fully repairable.
I don't know why i recited this nut it makes some relevant sense too me.
Perhaps you are too eager to please people - learn to shut the door - so that you don't resent your own feelings later?
If a guy came to the door and said "I want £100" would you do it? Find your own way of just saying no, whatever the justification.
Best thing i ever did was have a spy hole put in the front door :giggle: now if any sales reps or bible people knock, the door simply doesnt open redface
Lyns I remember when I was a kid and my father got "trapped" by the Jehovah Witnesses. He couldn't say no either and I can be a bit like that too (hint! hint!).
We spent the next six months hiding behind the sofa every time the door bell went. It took a very angry and pissed off black woman, my mother, to finally scare them away.
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: