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This is something that was mentioned in passing in the "hardened swinger" thread, and it peaked my curiosity. Any purists among us care to explain this to me?
We are not purists, but if you want a definition of swinging it is when couples swap partners therefore single people cannot be swingers.
That said the swinging scene has quite rightly evolved to incorporate many other pleasures.
Couple swapping (by way of Fuck Buddies not regular partners)
The club scene
The social (vanilla meet) scene particularly aimed at swinging people
BDSM - Bondage and Discipline, Domination and Submission, Sado Machosism
Vouyerism
Exhibitionism
Dogging
Group sex
3 somes
Camming
Cyber Sex
One on One meets
Transvestites meets, Transexual meets, Transgender meets.
Gay meets
Lesbian meets
Naturism with more
and lot's more
This is a good thing and pleases a lot more people, so your welcome in the scene no matter what diversity of swinging your into. Everyone in the scene should accept people into it by respecting whatever it is each individual or couple are into.
Its just semantics, IMO swinging is recreational sex between consenting adults.
Obviously for a couple this is a big break from the norm, for singles its considered more normal.
Some people would consider me a swinger, others would say Im just on the more unusual edge of single male behaviour.
If im in a threesome with a couple are they swinging, am I ? dunno
If they are and I'm not what the hell am I doing while they are swinging? :lol2:
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If im in a threesome with a couple are they swinging, am I ? dunno
If they are and I'm not what the hell am I doing while they are swinging? :lol2:

Being a dirty boy?!
wink
The age old question. From my own view point singles dont swing. The definition of swinging as known to the gereral public is couples sleeping with each others partners. Theres a lot of hippy 60's ethos kind of stuff around sugesting its a frame of mind (crack out the rose tinted spectacles and funny roll ups). So what do singles do? Fraser mentioned it, recreational sex.
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Being a dirty boy?!
wink

At every available opportunity, you should join me - we can pretend to be swingers :lol2:
Quote by Big_Fraser
Being a dirty boy?!
wink

At every available opportunity, you should join me - we can pretend to be swingers :lol2:
:thumbup: Only if we can adopt new "swing names" :lol2:
Why can't singles swing ? .... cos there's no-one to push them
Singles can and do swing. Its a mind set and not a status thing IMHO
Quote by Dawnie
Singles can and do swing. Its a mind set and not a status thing IMHO

That makes a lots of teenagers swingers lol
Quote by noladreams
Being a dirty boy?!
wink

At every available opportunity, you should join me - we can pretend to be swingers :lol2:
:thumbup: Only if we can adopt new "swing names" :lol2:
You're both cows and I hate you!
;)
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Being a dirty boy?!
wink

At every available opportunity, you should join me - we can pretend to be swingers :lol2:
:thumbup: Only if we can adopt new "swing names" :lol2:
You're both cows and I hate you!
;)
Oooh no, I know you can play pretend-swing too! :giggle:
So, swinging is 2 (or more nut always couples) couples swapping partners. So when one of you couples that claims singles don't swing, meet up for a 3-some - YOU are NOT swinging. What are you doing? And should you be arranging it on a SWINGNG site?
I wish people would a) lay off putting labels on everyone and more importantly b) pack in trying to limit what other people do just because you have put a label on them.
How dare YOU label ME? I lived my life being labelled and then fighting against those labels as well as my own problems. How many of you have struggled with schools and authoritites who have labelled your child in some way?
This lifestyle is one of freedom and friendliness and courtesy - at least it should be. And the minute you start labelling and defining you start limiting people. Stop it.
Quote by pebble
This is something that was mentioned in passing in the "hardened swinger" thread, and it peaked my curiosity. Any purists among us care to explain this to me?

I don't know if I swing or not....I guess it's just a matter of opinion, and one which isn't going to make any difference to myself or to the people I'm having fun with...quite clearly most of my sexual activity has nothing to do with swinging...or does it? ..now you've got me thinking, but I'm not about to discuss that one here.
Fancy a beer?
Quote by foxylady2209
So, swinging is 2 (or more nut always couples) couples swapping partners. So when one of you couples that claims singles don't swing, meet up for a 3-some - YOU are NOT swinging. What are you doing? And should you be arranging it on a SWINGNG site?
I wish people would a) lay off putting labels on everyone and more importantly b) pack in trying to limit what other people do just because you have put a label on them.
How dare YOU label ME? I lived my life being labelled and then fighting against those labels as well as my own problems. How many of you have struggled with schools and authoritites who have labelled your child in some way?
This lifestyle is one of freedom and friendliness and courtesy - at least it should be. And the minute you start labelling and defining you start limiting people. Stop it.

Sorry but what a load of bollocks. First as I have typed a few times not the world has labels its the way it works and always will. Just to change one such label to socially unacceptable "niger" for example takes years of work and effort and even then is still used by some regardless. People having labels or defanitions for others does not stop them from doing anything even together. I keep adding in defanition as labels does not really fit, the world needs defanitions in order to communicate.
You fought labels? Waste of time, just be happy with what you are then what others consider you to be wont matter. I dont care what people want to call me I know what I consider myself to be and thats all that is important.
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How many of you have struggled with schools and authoritites who have labelled your child in some way?

I have struggled with schools and authorities due to my child NOT having a label. Before he had a diagnosis and therefore a label of Autism no one wanted, nor were they required to meet his needs. Since the label, he has everything he needs and is coming on leaps and bounds so I disagree with this part of your argument. I suppose it depends on individual circumstances whether labelling is going to help or hinder!?
Back to the original question .......
I used to struggle with the singles swinging thing. For example, if a single guy and a single girl arrange to meet and have nsa sex on a swinging site, how is that different from a guy and a girl pulling in a pub on a Saturday night and going back for a shag, never to meet again? The girl and guy in the pub would not consider themselves as swingers.
As I say, I used to struggle with it, but now I just think that we should spend a little less time deciding who is what and should be doing what and more time doing what works for you and feels good wink
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From my own view point singles dont swing. The definition of swinging as known to the gereral public is couples sleeping with each others partners.

OK I'll go with that. How about... swapping "partners" between couples that are together strictly for recreational sex, that are not with each other as a couple in real life and may even be attached to or married to somebody else. Is this type of foursome swinging, or does it specifically have to be girlfriend/wife-swapping?
I am sorry the discussion turned to labeling. My intention was purely to drill at the definitions. Obviously everyone can do what they like and call it what they like. I know I won't be self-identifying as a swinger anytime soon, no matter how deeply I get sucked into it.
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I have struggled with schools and authorities due to my child NOT having a label. Before he had a diagnosis and therefore a label of Autism no one wanted, nor were they required to meet his needs. Since the label, he has everything he needs and is coming on leaps and bounds so I disagree with this part of your argument. I suppose it depends on individual circumstances whether labelling is going to help or hinder!?

OT but right on the same boat there, finally got diagnosed last week.
Quote by foxylady2209
So, swinging is 2 (or more nut always couples) couples swapping partners. So when one of you couples that claims singles don't swing, meet up for a 3-some - YOU are NOT swinging. What are you doing? And should you be arranging it on a SWINGNG site?
I wish people would a) lay off putting labels on everyone and more importantly b) pack in trying to limit what other people do just because you have put a label on them.
How dare YOU label ME? I lived my life being labelled and then fighting against those labels as well as my own problems. How many of you have struggled with schools and authoritites who have labelled your child in some way?
This lifestyle is one of freedom and friendliness and courtesy - at least it should be. And the minute you start labelling and defining you start limiting people. Stop it.

So you don't want a label but you are upset that you are not being classed as a swinger ? another label.
As someone has already said the world we live in exists on the use of labels, true some are not always welcome but they exist and before you have a go at people on the forums you should lobby parliament to have all labels removed and you should remove the bi-sexual female and straight male labels from your profile.
It just seems to me that a lot of people on here are more anxious to be labelled as swingers than they are in having fun, most couples couldn't care less about being called a swinger, but so many singles get into a frenzy yearning to be labelled a swinger.
As I said in my post earlier, there is a recognised format for swingers as being a couple who swap permanent partners with other couples, that was then and this is now and swinging itself has evolved, I am a swinger but not a vouyeur, I am a swinger but not a dogger, I am a swinger but not Sado Machosism, being none of them doesn't make me any more or any less of a swinger. I have been a single swinger (though I couldn't care less what I was labelled as back then, yes once that meant I wasnt a swinger but that was in the 50s and 60s, the evolvement of swinging to incorporate more into the scene is here wether people like it or not, I like it, the more diverse the better, the more people that have fun the way they like it the better.
Stop worrying about what your called and concentrate on having some fun the way you want to.

I repeat what I said earlier
We are not purists, but if you want a definition of swinging it is when couples swap partners therefore single people cannot be swingers.
That said the swinging scene has quite rightly evolved to incorporate many other pleasures.
Couple swapping (by way of Fuck Buddies not regular partners)
The club scene
The social (vanilla meet) scene particularly aimed at swinging people
BDSM - Bondage and Discipline, Domination and Submission, Sado Machosism
Vouyerism
Exhibitionism
Dogging
Group sex
3 somes
Camming
Cyber Sex
One on One meets
Transvestites meets, Transexual meets, Transgender meets.
Gay meets
Lesbian meets
Naturism with more
and lot's more
This is a good thing and pleases a lot more people, so your welcome in the scene no matter what diversity of swinging your into. Everyone in the scene should accept people into it by respecting whatever it is each individual or couple are into.
Quote by pebble
I know I won't be self-identifying as a swinger anytime soon, no matter how deeply I get sucked into it.

Just curious, if you are being sucked into 'swinging' and I am using that term because this is a swinging site, why are you adamant that you won't be calling yourself a swinger?
Couples are swingers singles are not as I see it. Singles are facilitators smile
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Couples are swingers singles are not as I see it. Singles are facilitators smile

Have to remember that one..... "I wasn't soliciting...I was facilitating" lol
Quote by Dawnie
I know I won't be self-identifying as a swinger anytime soon, no matter how deeply I get sucked into it.

Just curious, if you are being sucked into 'swinging' and I am using that term because this is a swinging site, why are you adamant that you won't be calling yourself a swinger?
Because I am a facilitator? ;)
It is because I am very much a beginner and at this stage an outsider, because I deal a lot with people that are also beginners or just not "real" swingers, and as a result right now both my personal experiences and my general understanding of the lifestyle are too limited to decide whether I am actually part of it or not (or even if I want to be). It is a matter of time and exposure to it. Or perhaps I am just in denial lol
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It is a matter of time and exposure to it.

Ill expose it for you ;)
Ill expose it for pretty much anyone...... apart from bioke :rascal:
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I have struggled with schools and authorities due to my child NOT having a label. Before he had a diagnosis and therefore a label of Autism no one wanted, nor were they required to meet his needs. Since the label, he has everything he needs and is coming on leaps and bounds so I disagree with this part of your argument. I suppose it depends on individual circumstances whether labelling is going to help or hinder!?

OT but right on the same boat there, finally got diagnosed last week.
Sorry, I know it was off topic, but I was responding to Foxy's response regarding labelling kids. Sorry to hear you are in the same boat as us, I wouldnt wish it on anyone. Hope you get everything you need and if ever you need a rant ...... you know where I am. xx
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Hope you get everything you need and if ever you need a rant ...... you know where I am. xx

An unexpected source of support. Thank you! kiss
(another example for the "What have you discovered on SH that you never expected?" thread ;) )
Quote by Dawnie
I know I won't be self-identifying as a swinger anytime soon, no matter how deeply I get sucked into it.

Just curious, if you are being sucked into 'swinging' and I am using that term because this is a swinging site, why are you adamant that you won't be calling yourself a swinger?
Does anyone think the term swinger is dated along with the pampass grass?
Quote by Onthebeach_1
I know I won't be self-identifying as a swinger anytime soon, no matter how deeply I get sucked into it.

Just curious, if you are being sucked into 'swinging' and I am using that term because this is a swinging site, why are you adamant that you won't be calling yourself a swinger?
Does anyone think the term swinger is dated along with the pampass grass?
Anxiously awaiting your and others alternative titles
Quote by MidsCouple24
I know I won't be self-identifying as a swinger anytime soon, no matter how deeply I get sucked into it.

Just curious, if you are being sucked into 'swinging' and I am using that term because this is a swinging site, why are you adamant that you won't be calling yourself a swinger?
Does anyone think the term swinger is dated along with the pampass grass?
Anxiously awaiting your and others alternative titles
So am i? Its just curious to think that the term may still be usage in say another 50 years time?
Anxiously awaiting your and others alternative titles
Respectfully suggests "knitting", its a barsteward to get the hang of, every now and then you drop a stitch and just when you think youve mastered it someone changes the pattern.