Quote by Cubes
... it gently peels away the top layer of skin so that the hair just pops out of its own accord.
Do you think it might work on my head? :bounce:
;)
LOL never had an in growing hair on my head, but then not many hairs left on my head
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JohnDoeG
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Quote by bluesouth
Flash is the issue here, follow my fix in the link above. I had the exact same issue here and if you do the 3 simple steps in my post you will be fine. Adobe is aware of the issue and there will most likely be an update to fix it from them soon. The only newer version above what is current for Lion is a beta which would probably not fix your issue and most probably break more things.
Just follow the 3 steps in my fix and you will be fine until its patched by adobe. Not too much of a security either as only allowing access always to the chatroom url. So not a scary workaround at all.
Any issues still give me a nudge and ill happily help anyone out too
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J
Sorry feeling a little stupid, but where's the link that you talk about.
Cheers
Thank you. I never not what to say to compliments, i get a little embarressed, but thank you.
A good example but would they like to put their lives in danger every day fighting fires, entering burning buildings to rescue people and heaving up the contents of their stomach when retrieving body parts off railway lines, car accidents or still smouldering bodies?
I somehow think not.
Some public sector workers are worth every penny :thumbup:
A good example but would they like to put their lives in danger every day fighting fires, entering burning buildings to rescue people and heaving up the contents of their stomach when retrieving body parts off railway lines, car accidents or still smouldering bodies?
I somehow think not.
Some public sector workers are worth every penny :thumbup:
As from my last payslip I pay into my pension which is in a year unlike the £2820 quoted below. To get the maximum pension I have to work for 30 years not the 25 quoted below and if the government hadn't spent the pot of money that had been payed in for all those years at the start, when they weren't paying out, the scheme would be self financing and the tax payer wouldn't be lumbered with any bill. But as usual they don't look to the future and only as far as their term of office.
As with my previous post, the contributions are 11% nearly twice as much as other civil servant schemes how pay 6% or lower and salaries haven't changed since 2008 not even with inflation. MPs only work for 7 years before getting their salary as their pensions and they are non contributory, why don't they make changes to their pensions.
And as for claiming for 25 years, if they retire before 30 years they have to wait until normal retirement age of 65 before they can claim their pension. The average firefighter after doing 30 years service lives 15 to 20 years if they are lucky. Firefighters have shorter life expectancies than the average population and are three times more likely to die on the job, due to inherent risks, physical and mental stresses, and exposures to toxic and carcinogenic compounds released in smoke.
Let alone the effects of injuries sustained while working later in life and I have had my share of those, some quite serious.
So sorry spideyuk a little unfair to say that the tax payer funds the pensions. Oh and just to point out I pay my taxes as well.
As with my previous post, the contributions are 11% nearly twice as much as other civil servant schemes how pay 6% or lower and salaries haven't changed since 2008 not even with inflation. MPs only work for 7 years before getting their salary as their pensions and they are non contributory, why don't they make changes to their pensions.
And as for claiming for 25 years, if they retire before 30 years they have to wait until normal retirement age of 65 before they can claim their pension. The average firefighter after doing 30 years service lives 15 to 20 years if they are lucky. Firefighters have shorter life expectancies than the average population and are three times more likely to die on the job, due to inherent risks, physical and mental stresses, and exposures to toxic and carcinogenic compounds released in smoke.
Let alone the effects of injuries sustained while working later in life and I have had my share of those, some quite serious.
So sorry spideyuk a little unfair to say that the tax payer funds the pensions. Oh and just to point out I pay my taxes as well.
Quote by spideyuk
Certain public sector pension schemes are far too generous and unsustainable. A significant number of public sector workers enjoy a pension linked to their final salary, are able to draw this well ahead of State pension age and receive an income that rises in line with inflation in retirement.
To illustrate this here are some rough calculations based on the Fire Service (their salary & pension figures were the first I found)...
Firefighter
Annual Salary: £ 28,200
Annual Pension: £ 18,800 *
Fund Total: £ 421,105 **
Contributions: £ 84,600 (30 x £ 2,820) ***
Pension drawn: £ 470,000 (25 x £18,800)
Fire Service Area Manager
Annual Salary: £ 53,900
Annual Pension: £ 35,950 *
Fund Total: £ 805,414 **
Contributions: £ 169,800 (30 x £ 5,660) ***
Pension drawn: £ 898,750 (25 x £35,950)
* Two thirds of final salary
** Up to 25% of fund total can be commuted as a tax-free lump sum on retirement.
*** Based on 25 years @ 10% of final salary for ease of calculation & excludes tax relief on pension contributions - actual contribution would be much lower.
It is a rough calculation but highlights how generous some schemes are and that we the taxpayer cannot afford to continue to fund. Most private sector workers would love to look forward to a retirement like this!
Is that Fire Service pension?
I've spent 12 years paying in to my Fire Service pension at a rate of 11% only to be told (a while ago) that the pot has been spent and now we have to pay for it. They want to up the contribution to 14%, pay out less when I retire and want me to work until 60. University's have done fitness studies and show that at 55 to 60 passing the fire service VO2 max test is virtually impossible and thus you get sacked for not being fit enough and that has an effect on a pension. Let alone the aging work force due to that. Who wants a Firefighter of that age turning up to rescue them, I know I don't want to be running around a fire ground at 60. And the MP's still get their final salary as their pensions (not 2/3) and it is non contributory, where's the fairness in that? Don't see them taking one for the team.
I pay for my pension and shouldn't have to pay for Government financial miss management. Sorry for the rant.
I've spent 20 years in a FS pension scheme, only to have it pulled out from under me. The same thing happened to the wife. We're both in the private sector, but I don't see why public sector workers should be treated any differently.
Just my 2 penneth. ;-)
Talking about the lower earnings for front line employees. Not just Fire Service but Teachers, Nurses, Police, Paramedics etc as well.
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This old thing again?
Lets face it 'final salary pensions for public sector workers' has a lot of scope. Are we talking about 18 year old privates earning 15k on the frontline or high level civil servants that earn over 150k a year, ten times the afore mentioned group.
It's too easy to bracket all public sector workers.
Is that Fire Service pension?
I've spent 12 years paying in to my Fire Service pension at a rate of 11% only to be told (a while ago) that the pot has been spent and now we have to pay for it. They want to up the contribution to 14%, pay out less when I retire and want me to work until 60. University's have done fitness studies and show that at 55 to 60 passing the fire service VO2 max test is virtually impossible and thus you get sacked for not being fit enough and that has an effect on a pension. Let alone the aging work force due to that. Who wants a Firefighter of that age turning up to rescue them, I know I don't want to be running around a fire ground at 60. And the MP's still get their final salary as their pensions (not 2/3) and it is non contributory, where's the fairness in that? Don't see them taking one for the team.
I pay for my pension and shouldn't have to pay for Government financial miss management. Sorry for the rant.
I've spent 12 years paying in to my Fire Service pension at a rate of 11% only to be told (a while ago) that the pot has been spent and now we have to pay for it. They want to up the contribution to 14%, pay out less when I retire and want me to work until 60. University's have done fitness studies and show that at 55 to 60 passing the fire service VO2 max test is virtually impossible and thus you get sacked for not being fit enough and that has an effect on a pension. Let alone the aging work force due to that. Who wants a Firefighter of that age turning up to rescue them, I know I don't want to be running around a fire ground at 60. And the MP's still get their final salary as their pensions (not 2/3) and it is non contributory, where's the fairness in that? Don't see them taking one for the team.
I pay for my pension and shouldn't have to pay for Government financial miss management. Sorry for the rant.
Quote by Cubes
I've spent 20 years in a FS pension scheme, only to have it pulled out from under me. The same thing happened to the wife. We're both in the private sector, but I don't see why public sector workers should be treated any differently.
Just my 2 penneth. ;-)
How do people feel about public sector pensions (final Salary)? and should the members be penalised for Government miss spending by increasing their contributions and decreasing the benefits at the end. More in and Less out. Especially when they were self financing until the Government spent the money pot.
