Did I not say that I don't believe the way a woman dresses is an excuse?? I think you'll find I did!! I didn't use the phrase 'asking for it' either.
I'm merely pointing out that it is a known fact that there are rapists and murderers at large, so why put yourself in danger unecessarily?
As for the girl I gave a lift to, I agree, her boyfriend was a completely thoughtless twat... and I wasn't suggesting it was entirely her fault she was out on the street late on her own (although she could have gone into several pubs that were open, or a number of takeaways, and asked them to get her a taxi... or she could have called a taxi herself. Her b/f had left her in a pub, not on the street. However, I was pointing out the potential danger this girl was at risk of becoming a victim of. But there are many women who put themselves at risk like that without the assistance of an inconsiderate b/f... and despite that it is not their fault that some lunatic is out there with intent to women, they could be a bit more sensible and not put themselves at risk!
By walking down a road late at night dressed sexily and looking very attractive, they may well not be asking for it, and certainly don't deserve it, but the fact is they are putting themselves at risk of getting it!!
Wouldn't it be better where possible for women to be sensible and not put themselves at risk of in the first place?
Considering the prevalence of serious attacks on women (and young girls) and the publicity it generates, it is surprising how many potential victims you see. In my local town is isn't uncommon, in fact it's very common, to see women, young women, walking along dark roads light at night dressed in very lttle. And while I don't think a girl's dress or lack of it is an excuse for someone to take advantage of, I think these girls are leaving themselves wide open to attack.
I travel around the country a lot with my work, and I see this everywhere! Only a few days ago I was on my way home at about at night, and passed two girls of about 16 years old (a guess btw), walking along an unlit country lane, both wear wearing very short skirts and skimpy tops!
Once, a couple of years ago, again late at night, I was passing through a large Cheshire village and had to swerve to avoid a girl who was walking along the pavement, going in the same direction as me, she had staggered into the road as she was drunk, very drunk! This girl in perhaps her late teens was again wearing a very short skirt and a pretty revealing top, and she was pretty attractive. Having overtaken her, it suddenly crossed my mind that she was walking out of the village towards open countryside! So then I thought, "shall I go back and see if she would like a lift?"... so then for a minute or two I had a mental battle of concience versus, well, what do you call it, dilemma? Think about it... 46 year old man stopping and trying to pick up a young girl, how does that look? Then I thought, "how would you feel if you picked up the paper tomorrow and read that a girl had been or murdered??"... So, in the end I turned around and went back, stopped and asked if I could give her a lift somewhere. Now the other thing here is, how the hell does she know I'm safe? She doesn't, but, she got in my car and I took her to another twon about 6 miles away and droped her near some houses where she said she lived, and waited while she went in. On the way she told me she'd had a row with her boyfriend and he'd dumped her and left her to make her own way home. Like I said, she was quite drunk, her tits were falling out of her top (and I mean that literally, they were uncovered)... which I pointed out to her so she could cover up, and her skirt was so short you could see her knickers (not there was a lot of them!). My conscience was clear because I had no intention of touching her inappropriately, and to the best of my knowledge I delivered her safely home. But ti made me think about how with another man the situation could have turned out very different!
I'm not trying to say that women are to blame for being , but surely some could be a bit more careful?
Like I said, I can understand people taking drastic immediate action as a result of anger and rage. It's supposedly sane people condoning such acts that I find disturbing. I draw a parallel with the USA simply to point out that on this ever-decreasing-in-size planet where eventually we might all become united one day, there are 'civilisations' still advocating draconian and barbaric measures for dealing with *people*. I don't condone or any other violent crime, but resorting to revenge, which is what we're really talking about, revenge disguised as justice, I beleive makes us lower than the individual we're 'punishing'. And there are people in this country campaigning for the death penalty to be brought back!
To answer someones question about prosecutions of householders for use of unreasonable force, the following Times article reports on a recent Crown Prosecution Publication outlining what is and what isn't allowed. The article quotes Ken Macdonald QC, the Director of Public Prosecutions saying that there have been 11 prosections of householders for excessive use of force in the last 15 years.
The CPS web page outlining the law on this subject and pointing out that even if an intruder dies, you are unlikely to be prosecuted so long as the police are satified that you used reasonable force, also states that the deliberate setting of a trap amounts to excessive force! So I think the use of device this thread is about would be illegal just on that point alone!
IT'S FIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION!.
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) found that over 80% of the men in the study simply could not fight back. Saying that a "big strong guy" cannot be is simply untrue, and such myths serves to prevent such men from reporting cos they figure (rightly) that people may not believe them. 