I'll be in Manchester for three days this week if anyone who knows me wants to meet for social/drink/or Cupids. :P
Hiya
We're looking to meet up with another couple before the Stunners party. If we get on, then with a view to a full swap or foursome. We can do some limited accommodation etc.
No newbies on this occasion please, or single males. Also, Stunners is a fetish night, so you need to dress in black if (like us) you are not heavily into fetish.
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xx Chris n Yofi
Just noticed our ad doesn't work when you click on 'ad' at the end of the messages. Done my brain in trying to find out how to work all the knobs and buttons. Anyone who's interested it's here:
http://photos.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-800740.html
Good but over-rated. Also, it's marketed as a mainstream horror - which it's not. This is a low budget indie film that's quite clever and disturbing. One critic (Mark Kermode) described it as a 'date movie' lol: "take your boyfriend to see it and enjoy watching him squirm haha".
I think it's more serious as a work of art than in any examination of the issues, even though it gains momentum by at least appearing to advocate an extreme response. It dangles the ethical conundrum by not letting you be quite sure how much he is what she says he is for quite a while.
Hiya
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The problem's not unknown in swinging either - where only the guy turns up and says his 'partner can't make it.' You can make sure a couple is 'genuine' there by suggesting the two ladies chat by phone first (or cam). A couple of times I have suggested this and the 'couple' has dried up!
My own thoughts, for what they're worth, on getting into swinging, is for you maybe to try and meet a couple who has at least some experience. Newbies will (I believe, in spite of opinions to the contrary) tend to have sex at least at the front of their minds because it is a big deal, a new thing, and this reaction is quite understandable. Slightly more experienced swingers know they can have sex with other people more or less any time they want, so when you say you are looking for a degree of friendship they are more likely to be able to respect that. They will also have ideas about how to 'move things on to the next stage' in a non-pushy way, rather than four of you looking at each other and not knowing how and when to say what you all might be thinking lol.
Making friends and networking through the swinging scene is IMHO the least painful way of meeting people. Getting to know people, whether on the forum, MSN-ing or at munches, getting to know people through other people (especially), is better than solitary posts/replies that lead directly to a meet. For most of the people I know on this forum, or through the swinging network (and I still wouldn't say I'm that experienced), the great fun thing is getting together with wonderful people. Whether it involves sex between us on that particular occasion is largely secondary.
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Cupids also has daytime sessions (more frequent than chameleons I think, but depends where you are)
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I'm in West London (Acton) this Friday in case anyone fancies meeting up. PM please.
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some of my posts seem to have disappeared - if they've gone to the 'junk' section i don't know where this is. It only caught my attention because a cryptic message telling me about another site disappeared. I honestly wasn't that interested but if the 'glitches' continue I guess I will be.
Nicely done then
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Where did you buy the nice lacey bits?
How do you get stocking tops and bosom in same picture Glasgow Girl?
I think there's different kinds of let downs. I have had someone turn up once who looked nothing like their photo. But there's also misfires.
Just socially, my mates seem to be in various 'categories' so I can relate to them appropriately.
- There's folks who arrange something even months in advance and you don't even need to check the day before - they'll be there.
- Most peeps I would exchange a courtesy call the day before to see if we are still on.
- Then there's peeps who I know are genuine but will cancel if known quantities intervene - that's fine as long as they realise I am free to cancel with the same frequency.
- Then there's peeps that are totally unreliable, however lovely they are: with them, if they are good friends, I take any arrangement as a 'possibility' if we are both not doing anything else at the time - I check an hour or so beforehand to see if we're both still free.
I feel quite happy with any of these arrangements - main thing is they have to be equal both ways - we both have the same margin. Given the choice, I like a diary appt that is firm, and a wee call the day before in case one of us lost our dairy or something cataclysmic, but peeps are different.
On the swinging scene, the other additional factor does seem to me to be peeps experience.
People who have been swinging for a while (swinging, not just going on the site) seem to know the score and misunderstandings are less likely. Anyone diagree? The thing is, newbies are prone to last minute heebiejeebies even if everything else is ok and exactly as planned upfront. Some people take longer than they imagine they will to get into a scene they are curious about, which can be frustrating.
Maybe the thing is to be aware of all the eventualities and (without getting cynical) always have a back-up plan to treat yourself if you get let down.
Having said that, all of us can get let down occasionally, and big hugs to you, Bex, Hon', :therethere: - and don't let it spoil your faith in human nature, or your friendships with these people. Redefine the rules if necessary, or cut your losses, but tomorrow is another day . . .
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Yummy! If those are all invitations I'm spoilt for choice! Sandi - PM-ing you hon! :-)
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quick tuppence worth of my views . . .
You maybe want make a list of what you want, what you want to use it for, what you're willing to pay, what it looks like and how easy it is to use, how compact it is. List the features you def want, and the ones you'd like to have. Do the same for payment plans (ie, do you want lots of free texts, cheap internet, or just cheap calls; if just cheap calls do you need them 24/7 or just off-peak; do you need them to all networks including landlines).
If you can be bothered, you could even get two or three of the 'What Mobile' type of magazine and compare features. Then get a mobile phone shop to demo the features (but don't sign anything). (Important to handle them - see if you like the 'feel' of it.) Decide your ideal moby, and ideal payment plan. Always aim to find someone who will throw your handset in free if possible (if you go for a monthly plan).
Decide whether to stay with your present provider or move. If you want to stay with them, you may have to choose a handset from their range. If you 'decide' vociferously (ie say you are going to change even if you aren't) and list why they're not good (or why so-and-so is much better), you will eventually get put through to the 'Retention Dept' (that's what it's called) which are authorised to give you a better deal than what you've probably been offered so far. Do this only when you know more or less exactly what you want - it saves money at the last hurdle. Where will you use it? Best UK coverage/reception is Orange and Vodaphone. If you'll be using it abroad check that it is 'triband' (needed in quite a long list of countries) and what the costs of calls are with your chosen provider.
Everyone's different. They say women go more on looks and ease of use than guys. The Razr (and the new Pebl) are ultra cool, but features-wise are still struggling to catch up with Nokia and Sony Ericcson on technology. Nokia software and keyboards are features-rich and once you decide you like all the shortcuts anything else seems prehistoric.
If you want a reasonably cutting edge moby it'll probably be a G3 one (any brand). Technically I think this refers to the connection speed when you download stuff but calling them 3rd generation is just as apt. They are generally light years ahead on non-G3 phones. For instance, you can have lots of handy programs, everything from a language translator to stuff that works out travel routes and gives you a map of your nearest kebab shop or petrol station wherever you are, and still have room for quite a lot of your favourite songs (that will play at pretty good quality through inexpensive and portable power speakers or a headset). You can store and share photos and short videos. Some have TV now. They often have a hard memory card that can be upgraded for extra storage.
If you want your moby to double as a camera, check its limitations. All of them will do pics that are good enough for swapping on phones. Some will do pics (within limits) that are worth printing. (Check the pixel spec.) Video storage (with or without sound) varies enormously - mine will do an hour of video for instance. Nokia have a new range coming out round about now - I think it's the 'N' series - they are far more advanced than other ones on the market with much better camera and video capacity, as well as 4Gb memory cards (enough for 1000 songs).
Any other couples going to Chameleons this Saturday and fancy saying hello to Kathryn and myself (especially if I know you), do PM before Fri (am travelling down early a.m.)
It's a uniform night, I've yet to decide between headmaster and schoolboy, but Kathryn promises to be a rather naughty schoolgirl . . .
xx Chris