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Straight Male, 63
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Quote by asiandelight007
Hi everyone,
If there is actually anyone out there. The longer I've been on this site the more I think that no real people actually use it. I have recieved only one reply, from a couple, where the women wanted to be wined and dined and taken on holiday, in return for possible sex. Nothing more than a glorified prostitute in my eyes.
This is a swingers site yes, then where are all the swingers. Hardly anybody contacts anyone, everyone out there who does swing has formed small groups and doesn't want to give it up, I mean what is going on? Being a member on this site is a total waste of money. I could have given that money to charity. Instead I log on and all I ever see is the same people who never reply or contact. Surely there must be a lot of other people in my position. It would be nice to hear from some of those people.
And if your wondering I'm not a 60 year old ogre. I am a 28 year old, good looking doctor, who has just got out of a very long term relationship, and just wants to have a bit of fun, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
So come on. Any people out there that think this site is a total waste of money, give me a reply, i somehow doubt that there are over 400,000 members on this site, what a load of bollocks. If enough people contact me then, I will challenge this sites user stats, which are most likely made up and making someone very rich indeed.
On the other hand, if you are a good looking female or couple up for fun, then give me a shout and I might have to take all the above back.
Either way I think I have a better chance of having sex at a funeral than I have on this site. YOUR LOSS.

I dispair...
Here, - http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/71569.html - only in the last day or two we have a discussion about why Asian Blokes find it hard to get on in the Swinging Community, and then as if by magic, we get this diatribe.
Talk about being "pushy" ill mannered and not taking NO for an answer (the sort of things which women complain most about when it comes to Asian men). What personal qualities that women would find appealing have you demonstrated in your attack on this community?
You do your cause no good whatsoever do you? Next time you want to press a self destruct button, please get one from Maplins, they sell them ready-packaged with matching batteries and chargers.
rolleyes
VIP - Oxford Road, Manchester
, Amsterdam Experience Adult World and Foxy Lady all in Birmingtham & its surroundings.
Only the Foxy Lady has an adjacent car park to go doggin in though.
Trust me, you'll regret it. We've had things like this spring up here..."Bill's Gang", "Fred's Gang", Joe's gang" etc etc (fictitious names to protect the real identities, but you get the drift) Once a couple hears that somewhere is a "gang's territory" there is nothing more scary for them, and in a short while the place "dies".
Also heard about a place near to Bristol where the locals have ganged up, and any solo stranger that arrives is "persuaded" to carry on with his journey elsewhere, or alternatively his car gets turned into a skip very quickly with the amount of bricks and rubble that come flying in through the windows...not a very "user-friendly" place to contemplate going to either on your own or with female company, in case what you offer still isn't good enough for them.
Stick to your Jack Jones, that way you are a threat to nobody, and are much more likely to succeed.
What's this got to do with DOGGING? I suspect it won't be long before Scotty beams this thread into the LMU.
Actually it's not a feature that actually comes programmed into Photoshop itself. It's a 3rd Party "Plug-In" that creates that effect that you are referring to.
Quote by welshsexmonkey
All this winning malarkey seems to be too much for some to bear. Mike Ruddock the Welsh Head Coach has now resigned as he can't take it any more. rolleyes

Think you'll find it's family reasons, and there's no arguing with that, in my opinion. I wish him and his family all the best.
Cymru am byth!
Well I s'pose so. If my family couldn't cope with Wales winning, I'd quit as well wink lol
Quote by PoloLady
What triggers an attraction - isn't it a number of factors on a conscious and subconscious level both physical and mental - isn't it also influenced by our social conditioning, experiences and a whole load of other things.
If someone has had an experience which triggers a doubt - the doubt alone can be enough to block any attraction.

Absolutely agree. I can remember growing up as a kid and watching the wrestling on telly with my dad (4pm on World of Sport) there was one nasty piece of work, a really dirty wrestler called "(first name slips my mind) Logan". He was one of the original baddies in the Wrestling scene. Since then, the experience of seeing him in action has in my mind associated Logans with being in some way dubious characters. It's just one of those things, If I were to meet identical twin ladies who through marriage were now called Mrs Logan and Mrs Disney, have a guess which my mind would make me more at ease with.
Yes on a conscious level, the brain tells me what a twit I am for reacting like this, but subconsciously, or instinctively, it just can't be helped. I'd feel comfortable and at ease with one of them, and not the other.
So, sorry to any of the Logan Clan out there who may feel aggrieved at this, but it's nothing personal or conscious! redface
All this winning malarkey seems to be too much for some to bear. Mike Ruddock the Welsh Head Coach has now resigned as he can't take it any more. rolleyes
Quote by easyease
and i dont think something has to be intended maliciously, to be racist.

...did you hear that? George Galloway's calling you. Playtime is over. I'm outa here. rolleyes
Quote by easyease
people arent stinging nettles they are individuals.

So what's that supposed to mean? We're talking about painful experiences, and I used an illustration to highlight it. Is that the best that you can do?
Quote by easyease
yeah its their loss fabio.........i do think racism comes in varying degrees though.

I disagree that making a decision relating to bad previous experiences of people is racist. Racism in my book requires a malicious intent to act in a prejudicial way towards others of a selected racial grouping.
What is being described, sounds more like the personal self-defence mechanism coming into play and using past experience in order to try to prevent a past negative experience from happening again. It's a completely different and instinctive thought process. Kind of similar to "the last time I played with stinging nettles I hurt myself, so I won't play with them again". I can't see that there is any malice in being self-protective.
Yes you can argue that we are all supposed to be over that sort of stuff now, but next you'll be arguing for "positive discrimination" and that in order to prove themselves non-racist, that every couple or female should shag a given quota of men from all ethnic backgrounds. That ain't gonna work.
Quote by Reikiradical
I only support 2 teams......WALES and and anyone playing against ENGLAND.
If that dont bring em out of the woodwork nothing will

Oh dear... lol :lol: :lol: ...just how sour were those grapes last week??? :lol:
Quote by The Dukes
I now fly out to Rome tomorrow evening to fly the flag again .

Not if I get to the airport before you and mug you for your tickets, you won't lol :lol: :lol:
England to win 35-20 (or thereabouts)
And England to win in France...
And I'll be there the day after Paddy's day to see Eng do away with the leprachauns.
And as for the Calcutta Cup (Grand Slam clincher) I fear for that one...I might need some fingernail transplants at the end of that match. :shock:
Quote by naughtynymphos1
oh dear i hate people who play the race card when they can't get a meet mad

I think he has a point though. I've spoken to lots of ladies and couples over the years, most of whom say the same thing...they don't mind blacks and they don't mind whites, but they don't "do" browns.
The problem is of course beiing brave enough to admit it without being called a racist. I't somehow OK to be "singleist" but you daren't be seen to be racist, even though it all boils down to your own personal preferences and tastes.
One of the main reasons cited for the prejudice that I hear is the attitudes of Asian society towards women. The same goes for Mediterranian Europeans as well mind, so don't feel singled out. But it women in this country have fought long and hard for equal rights and to be treated with equal respect, then there is no surprise that men from cultures that are seen to repress its womenfolk (compared to UK standards) and treat them as second class citizens are treated with suspicion, and that a lack of a desire to mix with them.
Also a general observation here, is that the number of asian single guys at a club outweighs the number of asian couples to a FAR greater extent than is the case with with black and whites. It all adds to the impression of only wanting wanting wanting, and not giving anything back by the Asian culture. (one example, my local club has a regular 5 or 6 asian singles out of a total of 25-odd singles every Friday, but the number of Asian couples at any time (Wed Fri or Sat) is only 1 or 2 (max) out of an aggregate of 250-300 couples per week.
So mziafat, there you have an honest account of my observations of what people will say behind your back, and not to your face, because only with that known to you will you know how to go about re-wording the advert that others have mentioned, to get over the problems that you face. These observations are not necessarily my own point of view, and others will disagree with them in public, but then it's not the public approval that you are after, its the private fun and games...so hopefully this might be of use to you.
I'll be at home, joining in with the National Anthems, before the match...
"Wales, Wales,
Bloody big fishes are Wales,
They swim in the sea,
We eat them for tea,
Oh, bloody big fishes are Wales."
lol
Quote by filthyfrog
sad looks like our planned dirty weekend in Tamworth aint gonna be up to much then rolleyes
oh well just have to see what happens in the pub/clubs cool
Any good pulling grounds?

Tamworth - the new Sex Capital of Staffordshire or what?
What sort of pulling ground are you after, how far are you planning to travel and in which direction. There's a dirty weekend on in South Wales starting on Sat night if thats not out of range.
Watch Channel 4. They seem to have all the answers to do with penis's and all things connected with penis's (and in the case of John Bobbit, all things disconnected with penis's) this week.
I'm supporting England, but I'm pig sick that I couldn't get a ticket.
Anyone down in the Smoke who knows about these things, know if, now that a bit of the South Stand is finished, any more last minute tickets will come on sale?

I'm relying on England to win to keep my head held high, as I'm off to South Wales on the Sat night for a party. Might have to have a "designer puncture" on the way there if Wales were to win, and we don't want that to happen now do we?
Quote by constance
Shock a shop assistant , refuse their carrier bags and take your own!!

An Aldi or Lidl carrier bag at Marks & Spencer, or Sainsbury's will make you popular with all the staff lol
Our council does a once weekly collection of black bags. Not a problem really as when the bin is full I tie the bag up and put a new one in, then on Wed mornings, the first (and possible second) bag get put by the side of the tree at the roadside ready to get chucked into the wagon.
We have a weather proof huge shopping bag jobbie for recycled paper too, which gets collected every 2 weeks. But just which week it is I don't have a clue. redface
Tobias, not much was said about your bi-guy preferances. You'll find that Chameleons do a bi-night on Monday nights and Xtasia are bi-friendly on Wednesday nights.
The differences are that at Chams, only couples where the guys want b2b action are encouraged to go on Mondays, (whether they are forced into action I don't know, it's not my bag so I don't go)
Xtasia on the other hand are "mixed" with the usual hetero fare on offer in most parts of the club, but the one upstairs area is for bi couples and single bi guys to mix'n'match.
ya payzya money...so to speak.
Quote by Mal
Click on the Dogging tab at the top of the page.
Mal

But before you go to any of the places listed, have a look at Google Earth. In the 6 or 7 years since some of those places were first written about, gates, fences, barriers and whole housing estates might have been plonked into places where someone, back in the days of the Ford Cortina once had a lucky break and wrote all about it.
Quote by lickmidick2002
have to agree
would seem it is more a question of single guys being disrespectfull and scarin off couples than a lack of interest.....as mentioned earlier patience is the key

Can't help thinking that some people just don't know any better. Most seasoned single doggers at some time will have brought ladies to the car parks to experience dogging, and so will have some experience from the other side of the fence so to speak. But most of the youthful "seen it in the papers" doggers just don't have a clue and their ignorance leads them into making a balls up of the situation. You also have to remember that todays youth don't have that same degree of respect for others in anything that they do, so what chance of them respecting others in the dogging scene?
Another point is that some people brought up in foreign ways have been taught that men can have / do what they want and women are almost their property, so it is no surprise that they are a lot more "expectant" than others and don't take no for an answer, and more of these types are on the scene now too.
But yeah, I've been to the same car parks as you and seen just what you witnessed, so yes I get cheesed off with it too.
Quote by sexybodifonly
Am still trying to garner some interest and support for some sites in Brum. The trail has gone well and truly dead at the moment. But i remain optimistic that with the weather getting warmer more will happen. Am I correct or just being wishful?
Sexybod

Being wishful is part of the psyche of every dogger.
Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
Oh well, another three places ruined confused

I doubt it somehow. Looking at niceguysdoexist's post, they are not dogging spots anyway. Comes back to my silly games theory - the next form of idiotic behaviour towards doggers that gets played by the piss-takers.
Quote by Serendipity
You must have picked their nights off on the other 4 occasions then....have alook at this a few posts down for more info
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopicpage/68888/20.html

C-Chase seems to be a very popular topic of conversation just recently.
Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
Firemanlee have you totally lost the plot? Have you not read the rules about naming sites on the open forums, you QUICKLY need to edit your post and remove them before a mod comes along, gives you a verbal slapping (which you deserve) and removes them for you!
banghead :banghead: :banghead:

Unless of course it's one of those "How many poor sad bar stewards can I send up a dead end" games, in which case he'll deserve a slap off more than just a Mod.
Nah, the place is safe. That other Welsh MP, Rhodry Morgan probably uses it for his "Badger Watching" (just like he uses the "other car park" near Bath), so I doubt if he'll let St David interfere with it too much.
Quote by PLUM
We are Members and have never seen prostitutes in the club. All the people in the club are friendly and welcoming. The facilities are fantastic especialy the pool and hot-tub

You won't if you just go on Couples nights, they are there to "play" with single guys who don't find couples who want them so that they don't go home empty handed.
I havent met any either...Im a single male, and although I havent been for a while I can reliably say this isnt the case......
The matter's been discussed before, http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/47237.html?highlight=utopia
and
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopicpage/52721/20.html
Note the comments of Naughtynymphos1, Seagull69. I suppose it depends on how loyal you are Utopia as to how much you are in denial.
Unless of course the leopard has changed its spots and they no longer have working girls there. Policy changes are always possible, and making that a public thing will only have servred to admit to the practise having been true in the past, so no doubt it would have been done quietly. Anything is possible.