I don't like the idea of swingers clubs paying prostitutes to do Captain Peacock impressions and walking amongst the members, asking single guys "Are You Being Served?". So no, I won't go.
Thanks Fabio, I take your point.
That said, this is World Cup year, and more people from here will be heading to Germany than (say) North Wales. Yet a thread about swinging facilities in North Wales would be considered "relevant", whereas Germany isn't.
If relevance is measures by people voting with their feet, cars, RyanAir etc, then surely in the context of this year, that means that Germany as a single destination is a valid topic. Next year the circumstances may be different, and the relevance may diminish, but surely these things get taken on their own merits, don't they?
While it's true that 95% of parties out there are for couples only, there are some geared up for couples where the ladies like the attention of multiple males (simultaneously and/or consecutively) You will find that these parties are great for mixing with likeminded people who share you preferences, and there will also be a good selection of guys there (usually carefully chosen if the organisers has anything about them) to play with.
It's a case of looking out for the right kind of party, and if you are going to a club, not picking the couples-only nights.
Hope that this helps.
The most forgotten question now...how many car park spaces have you got around you?
Seriously, if you wanted to fill your house, I've organised parties for a house that size where 20 couples and 10 guys all came. That's 30 cars that need to be accommodated. Now where I live, there's little enough room for 30 skateboards, and if someone has no room to park, or thay have a long (and depending on your surroundings) or an "uncomfortable" walk, and who knows what sort of weather they will have to walk through, then you might not see them again for a second party.
So there's food for thought. Talking about food, I assume you will be laying on some forms of buffet. Think about your budget. "Real" parties are done on a BYOB basis, with other costs borne by the host, so the buffet gets paid for out of your pocket...so how much are you willing to spend?
How big is your circle of existing friends and how much are you relying on the advert? If the reliance is on the advert, you will need to count on 3 invitation acceptances to get one person (or couple) actually knocking on your door on the night. Sad but true. If you have a circle of friends who you know, then this ratio goes down to 2 for 1.
Sounds like common sense, but put away anything valuable or breakable. Especially with a house full of strangers, There may be someone there who can't resist the temptation to provide your phone with a new owner etc.
Personally I would aim to start small, and get 10 couples, and if you want single guys, then no more than a ratio of 1 guy per 2 couples. See my coments about over-booking to achieve these sort of numbers. Tell people what you are expecting, so that when yo hit your target you get brownie points. There's nothing worse than telling people (and they do ask) that you are aiming for 20 couples (just to sound good and "unmissable) and only half that many turn up.
Work on your PR with those who come, to ensure that they will want to come again, and build up your nucleus that way.
I'd avoid cheesy party games. I found that inviting people who I know to be "players" is all you need to get the party swinging. Their natural instincts are better than any artificial incentives.
Most of all, HAVE FUN. Best of luck!
Well the party scene in South Wales is alive and well - http://photos.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-483206.html
Also judging by the number of people from South Wales who come all the way up to Xtasia in Birmingham at the weekend, I'm surprised that S Wales doesn't rise six inches out of the sea with the all the body weight not pressing down on the land mass any more.
Robbo
No easy way I'm afraid mate. It'll come down to a few basics:
1. How interestiing your personality is to others
2. How physically attractive you are to others
3. How much money you have to spend, as swingers clubs are very expensive for single guys
4. How much time you have to devote to all this.
1 & 2 will be what decide how far you get with the people who you eventually meet.
3 & 4 will decide how quickly and how many people you will get to meet.
Certainly the Manchester clubs will be a better bet for you than Blackpool. Or rather I should say "Greater Mancheser" as from down here, it's Liasons and Parnters which are the clubs with the best reputations at the moment. The Blackpool clubs tend to fleece the guys for their cash.
Other than that, see what Steph and Snesh have said. I can only echo their advice.
I'm not sure if the weather is so much to do with it, as otherwise you would be over-run by couples showing off all around you in the warmth of Summer...and that doesn't happen either.
Theory 1 - areas with the best swingers clubs have the poorest dogging. The evidence? High dogging activity reported in the East Mids and East Anglia, where there isn't a swingers club to be seen for counties and counties. Conversly, the West Mids has the countries best swingers clubs...and people over time will adapt their habbits to suit. Yes I know that the activites are not quite the same, but those who want a sexual thrill have a choice in the West Mids that may not exist elsewhere, and on a cold rainy, or snowy night, that choice may sometimes lead to couples choosing the warmth and comfort of a swingers club. Not everyone will look on it that way, but the swingers club I go to has a lot of members who I first got to know on a car park (the owners included!)
Theory 2 - "It hasn't half gone down hill over the last X years". How long have I heard that for? Tracing the theory back to its extreme, if today we get bits and pieces, but it's not as good as it was a couple of years ago, when similarly then it wasn't as good as it was a couple of years before that... ..then back in the days of the Morris Oxford, Ford Zephyr ahd Sunbeam Alpine, the car parks must have been teeming with couples all showing off to each other and a few respeted single gentlemen. Erm, was it really like that back then? I doubt it somehow. I dare say, back then, the doggers of the day would have been saying that they got a lot more in the days of the horse and cart. Now if this theory doesn't work in reverse, then it won't work in "forward mode" either. If you've hit a duff patch, well join the club. There will always be something...eventually.
Theory 3 - Out of Date Information. Having looked at the list of dogging spots here on SH, I notie that the list is basically the same as the one I saw on one of the first dogging web sites I ever saw, 5 or more years ago. No-one has the task of updating it, and basically nor would I want it to be updated for the reasons that we aren't specific in this forum about What's On and When. The informatiion was dubious and out of date back then, so if you are basing your searches on the car parks listed there, well, it ain't no surprise that you are drawiing a blank. Basically I would prefer it if SH removed that into, as it is sometimes less wrong to provide no information than dis-information. Unless of course the plan is to lead newcomers into blind alleys, to give the rest of us a chance? (Mulder & Scully, where are you? There's a conspiracy theory hatching :shock: )
No Utopia is miles away from Derby. Utopia is sort of north a bit from Telford, in rural Shropshire.
Daz - sorry to hear the bad news chat (been there, seen it done it etc) I happens to us all at some time, but time will be a healer.
I just hope that those people who were friends of yours as a couple reman friends with you now that you are on your own.
I noticed that you used the word "dreaded" to describe single guys in your other post. You might be single, but single guys are allowed their dignity too. Be positive about your new status, and you'll do just fine.
Best of luck.
) However, if that same lady has "chunky" or "sturdy" ankles, then that's supposed to be nature's way of forewarning that more weight will be borne by these joints later in life. Kind of an early warning system that middle age spread will take hold at some point. And that caused us to look around, and lo and behold, no larger elderly ladies had dainty petite ankles...
Locking is one of the severest punishments for wrongdoing that a moderator can dish out, and I am somewhat bemused as to why I deserve this punishment to an honestly meant-to-be informative thread. Sgt B, can you let me know where I went wrong on this matter? ). Once again, ask them if they have a strict dress code, any no nos etc. Make sure that you are comfortable with what you're wearing too. If it's your first time to a club, then you'll be nervous about enough, without the added burdon of being uncomfy in yer clothes
