Yeah, I know what you are saying about not wanting to 'befriend' your doggers and I too would prefer not to meet them over the frozen chickens at Asda. But you can build up trust whilst remaining your anonimity. Perhaps the trust is just a gut feeling bout someone? Plus, seems no one we've met are really local to us as the Forest draws from so many different areas.
The excitement is that they know nothing about us really, but bet they wonder.... : - ))
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not sure its the Asda thing that bothers me as much as the doing it in front of friends bit, i know that goes against the grain as far as swinging is concerned but in Dogging mode its the stranger bit and the unknown thats the draw, at the end of the day there isnt a right and wrong here its what suits everyone ......for us its as we have said .,,,,,
...... if we wanted to have group sex with friends we wouldnt go dogging for it we would go swinging in groups to clubs or parties where we would know most of the folks as friends prior to bonking or showing......
...... if we wanted to have group sex with friends we wouldnt go dogging for it we would go swinging in groups to clubs or parties where we would know most of the folks as friends prior to bonking or showing......
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not sure its the Asda thing that bothers me as much as the doing it in front of friends bit, i know that goes against the grain as far as swinging is concerned but in Dogging mode its the stranger bit and the unknown thats the draw, at the end of the day there isnt a right and wrong here its what suits everyone ......for us its as we have said .,,,,,
...... if we wanted to have group sex with friends we wouldnt go dogging for it we would go swinging in groups to clubs or parties where we would know most of the folks as friends prior to bonking or showing......
Wrats, I have have never met you but all I can say is stay as you are. You provide me with seconds (joke) of endless entertainment and who knows we might cross paths one day and I'll probably think that i've known you all me life and won't be able to get it on.
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Unfortunately in my experience there are too many doggers who think that if a couple turn up that they are guarnateed a shag
Very noticeably now, I don't think it was as bad a year ago when I first visited here or maybe I have rose tinted spec where my first few weeks here are concerned!
That's what bothers me most though, will these attitudes influence couples to involve others .... and will that lead to thevoyeurs eventually being considered prick teasers (pussy teasers??) if they only want to watch!
It's interesting to see a mention about building trust through arranged meets with familiar faces, the anonymity of dogging is what has appealed to me in the past so I always imagine that seeing the same old faces in the twilight would remove some of the thrill eventually, perhaps even more so for couples who want to be watched but not touched - I may be way off the mark with that, it's hard to imagine it from your side of the dogging equation sometimes!
We have a circle of about 40 couples and maybe 10 blokes and 2-3 single girls. We would not be bothered if we met any of them at Asda as all are our friends. We do not have sex with each other unless it is a very dead night but we do hunt together and exchange notes. We have parties together and some of us even baby sit for each other.
aah bugger, saw this thread late last night, started penning my piece, then at 2 am got diverted, so it never happened. now i come back to it, everything i wanted to say has been said, and far more eloquently..the first post in weeks that doesn't request the insersion of an object into the enquirer's rectum, or a confused follow up to an unanswered plea for a tonsil assisted ejaculation from a hard of thinking halfwit, and i find myself struggling for an origional contribution 
ok, regarding serendipity's origional question, which we understand as this..we are a "showcouple". due to the increased levels of assumption now displayed at many larger venues by some doggers, our offering is now less well recieved by a higher porportion of guys than maybe it once was. do we escalate our game to include increasingly higher levels of involvement in order to retain favour? no doubt serendipity would have anticipated our response of an emphatic "no".
some other options mentioned include "get to know your doggers"..that might work for some, but its not an option we'll be taking. to be perfectly frank, talking to the guys during our early excursions has been a cross we still bear the burdon of two years on..we have met some wonderfull people, indeed people we feel proud to be able to consider friends, but that, in itself is a problem..we never set out to fuck in front of our buddies. the other issue bieng, we can rarely enter the venue these days without bieng pounced on by several very well meaning comrades, this social gathering then draws in more bystanders wishing to make our acquaintance, thus exasperating the whole scenario. when we then leave, having talked ourselves into a semi conscious state, often our new made associates are left feeling rather less favourable towards us, having, in their minds, wasted most of their night gaining our confidence, only to be left standing for their efforts
private meets are an oft cited solution to our dillema. once again, not for us..the fellas that sit it out "in the field" are our lifeblood, and every arranged meet is potentially a nail in their the old school doggers desert this game, effectively we're screwed. thats why we treat those fellas with respect, and are carefull to verbalise our appreciation for a mutual nights eroticism. as for their age groups? well, we've seen good and bad in all dogging generations. if i had to give a preference, then both youthfull wide eyed innocence and the the older man's delight in the nostalgia and appreciation of a relitively younger woman's body would provide us with a greater sense of emotional power than could be attained from someone of similar age, but then thats just us
so, if the bubble were to burst tomorrow, and the game were to go into "inner core meltdown"..would we give up? naaa, we're having too much fun. as "doggingtwo" described, one genuine voyeur within a forest of fanny fixated frankenstein's is all we require for a nights entertainment..when even that goes tits up, we've got an ace to play..the potential for arousal as a result of an accidental or oppertunistic erotic encounter is latent within many more people than the small percentage that have sought to find expression in the world we know as dogging. its an avenue we've already been exploring, with some fun results :wink:
as to definitions..well, a wise man once said "the spirit hears the birdsong, the mind is preoccupied in naming the bird".
ok, regarding serendipity's origional question, which we understand as this..we are a "showcouple". due to the increased levels of assumption now displayed at many larger venues by some doggers, our offering is now less well recieved by a higher porportion of guys than maybe it once was. do we escalate our game to include increasingly higher levels of involvement in order to retain favour? no doubt serendipity would have anticipated our response of an emphatic "no".
some other options mentioned include "get to know your doggers"..that might work for some, but its not an option we'll be taking. to be perfectly frank, talking to the guys during our early excursions has been a cross we still bear the burdon of two years on..we have met some wonderfull people, indeed people we feel proud to be able to consider friends, but that, in itself is a problem..we never set out to fuck in front of our buddies. the other issue bieng, we can rarely enter the venue these days without bieng pounced on by several very well meaning comrades, this social gathering then draws in more bystanders wishing to make our acquaintance, thus exasperating the whole scenario. when we then leave, having talked ourselves into a semi conscious state, often our new made associates are left feeling rather less favourable towards us, having, in their minds, wasted most of their night gaining our confidence, only to be left standing for their efforts
private meets are an oft cited solution to our dillema. once again, not for us..the fellas that sit it out "in the field" are our lifeblood, and every arranged meet is potentially a nail in their the old school doggers desert this game, effectively we're screwed. thats why we treat those fellas with respect, and are carefull to verbalise our appreciation for a mutual nights eroticism. as for their age groups? well, we've seen good and bad in all dogging generations. if i had to give a preference, then both youthfull wide eyed innocence and the the older man's delight in the nostalgia and appreciation of a relitively younger woman's body would provide us with a greater sense of emotional power than could be attained from someone of similar age, but then thats just us
so, if the bubble were to burst tomorrow, and the game were to go into "inner core meltdown"..would we give up? naaa, we're having too much fun. as "doggingtwo" described, one genuine voyeur within a forest of fanny fixated frankenstein's is all we require for a nights entertainment..when even that goes tits up, we've got an ace to play..the potential for arousal as a result of an accidental or oppertunistic erotic encounter is latent within many more people than the small percentage that have sought to find expression in the world we know as dogging. its an avenue we've already been exploring, with some fun results :wink:
as to definitions..well, a wise man once said "the spirit hears the birdsong, the mind is preoccupied in naming the bird".
Sex God
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wel.. if we go out in the car, it's because we get off on showing off. if there isn't anyone to showoff to, then the fun is gone.
At first we used to get a little upset if there was no-one around to watch, now we couldnt really give a dam! Ok, it can be nicer if there is someone around, you get the extra tingly feeling (I'm sure you know what I'm waffling about) but we make the most of just being out and about and think that there is always the chance that someone could be watching! So the fun doesn't go, its just a different kind of fun
Sex God
we have really enjoyed this insight into our world, knowing without prior discussion that on the whole folks feel as we do about dogging gives us a warm feeling, it helps explain to us why we go, funny really isnt it, but the clarification as to what we get out of it is now on the screen for all to see, and that includes us,
sensible dogging chat now theres a first..............
wrats
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sensible dogging chat now theres a first..............
wrats
xx
Sexlightened
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In my humble opinion may I point out that a public car par/beauty spot is not private especially so if it is a known dogging area. A serious and sensible dogger should have a fall back secret place where they can take others.
I agree in some ways Mary but it's not always convenient to drive from one place to another and surely people should always be able to choose who they allow to watch/participate. Otherwise that would lead to it being open house as soon as someone pulled in to park up. So I think you're being a little harsh accusing us of not being a serious and sensible doggers.
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In my humble opinion may I point out that a public car par/beauty spot is not private especially so if it is a known dogging area. A serious and sensible dogger should have a fall back secret place where they can take others.
I agree in some ways Mary but it's not always convenient to drive from one place to another and surely people should always be able to choose who they allow to watch/participate. Otherwise that would lead to it being open house as soon as someone pulled in to park up. So I think you're being a little harsh accusing us of not being a serious and sensible doggers.
No sorry if I gave the wrong impression but I am not accusing anybody of anything. I was just stating the obvious and that is in a public place no one has anymore rights than anybody else so we always move to a secret place if there are strangers around.
Sex God
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HIJACK - Welcome back Silk and Big G, not seen you around for a while, good to see you posting again (missed the avatar) HIJACK OFF
Ah Thanks Sweetheart, we've been caught up in other things :twisted: and we're sorry for neglecting the board. Fact also being that this thread is interesting and causing a debate which we love.(cheers Seren!)
to add my own 2p to this thread, and as G said above, we aren't about to compromise our boundaries just to please some strangers in a car park.
As to the single doggers that proclaim that we should be grateful for them to meet our exhibitionist needs, let me clear one thing up. If G and I are out for a drive and pull over in a doggin hotspot, I'll be sitting on his cock, voyeurs present or not. Although the thrill of being watched is fantastic, its not the be all and end all. I want him, I want to fuck him. End of story.
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Sexlightened
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In my humble opinion may I point out that a public car par/beauty spot is not private especially so if it is a known dogging area. A serious and sensible dogger should have a fall back secret place where they can take others.
I agree in some ways Mary but it's not always convenient to drive from one place to another and surely people should always be able to choose who they allow to watch/participate. Otherwise that would lead to it being open house as soon as someone pulled in to park up. So I think you're being a little harsh accusing us of not being a serious and sensible doggers.
No sorry if I gave the wrong impression but I am not accusing anybody of anything. I was just stating the obvious and that is in a public place no one has anymore rights than anybody else so we always move to a secret place if there are strangers around.
It's no problem Mary you're cool. Maybe it would be good if everyone read Mal's excellent dogging hints and tips it gives great advice for singles and couples. Take care and once again no offence taken xx
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As to the single doggers that proclaim that we should be grateful for them to meet our exhibitionist needs, let me clear one thing up. If G and I are out for a drive and pull over in a doggin hotspot, I'll be sitting on his cock, voyeurs present or not. Although the thrill of being watched is fantastic, its not the be all and end all. I want him, I want to fuck him. End of story.
Which only underlines my point earlier. If you go out with the intention of dogging, or get an extra thrill from being watched, then you need the voyeur.
If you are just going to shag, then that is what you are doing. There is a difference. I have never argued that it stops you enjoying sex, just one aspect of it.
Sexlightened
Which only underlines my point earlier. If you go out with the intention of dogging, or get an extra thrill from being watched, then you need the voyeur.
If you are just going to shag, then that is what you are doing. There is a difference. I have never argued that it stops you enjoying sex, just one aspect of it.
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We don't agree! sorry but we don't need a voyeur, just the thought and feel of having sex out doors gives us a big kick. the feel of the breeze, sun, blanket, grass or the roughness of a tree! with the added thrill of being caught doing something that you shouldn't.
dogging used to long distant thing for us, being watched with binoculars, hearing the crack of twigs as someone tries to get a closer/better look and if they got to close then we would stop, they got the message and eased back, we would then carry on.
if no one was there it is very easy to put the thought in your partners head that someone is watching, just wisper in her ear!
It is the suttleness that has gone out of dogging.
If you are just going to shag, then that is what you are doing. There is a difference. I have never argued that it stops you enjoying sex, just one aspect of it.
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We don't agree! sorry but we don't need a voyeur, just the thought and feel of having sex out doors gives us a big kick. the feel of the breeze, sun, blanket, grass or the roughness of a tree! with the added thrill of being caught doing something that you shouldn't.
dogging used to long distant thing for us, being watched with binoculars, hearing the crack of twigs as someone tries to get a closer/better look and if they got to close then we would stop, they got the message and eased back, we would then carry on.
if no one was there it is very easy to put the thought in your partners head that someone is watching, just wisper in her ear!
It is the suttleness that has gone out of dogging.
Brilliant responses guys, thank you - as Dirty said, I did know what some of the couples would say but not all! 
Reading these made me think about my own limits and whether I would compromise what I get from dogging (limited as my experience is!) in order to see a show and the answer is mostly no, I don't look for involvement but with the right people I wouldn't rule it out - however, as everyone else as said, not at the whim of someone else!
That's true if a couple absolutely must be watched above all else - which seems to bring us back to the compromise questions again! But there are a lot of couples who don't need to be watched, it's just a bonus - dogging is foreplay for some of them before heading off home!
Reading these made me think about my own limits and whether I would compromise what I get from dogging (limited as my experience is!) in order to see a show and the answer is mostly no, I don't look for involvement but with the right people I wouldn't rule it out - however, as everyone else as said, not at the whim of someone else!
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Which only underlines my point earlier. If you go out with the intention of dogging, or get an extra thrill from being watched, then you need the voyeur.
That's true if a couple absolutely must be watched above all else - which seems to bring us back to the compromise questions again! But there are a lot of couples who don't need to be watched, it's just a bonus - dogging is foreplay for some of them before heading off home!
Sexlightened
. :happy: Huge round of applause for Serendipity for starting such a good thread, really got a lot of people thinking. More of the same please!
As newbies we have found this thread very interesting. To a great degree it actually echoes our own feelings on the subject. Whilst not having experienced some of the problems of the more long-standing members (no pun intended!) we have felt that we as exhibitionists shoud be 'in charge' and not do anything we are unhappy about.
We still have a lot to learn (and enjoy). However, we would agree with the comments about older/younger watchers. So far, we have only received respect and consideration from both generations, but feel that younger men could certainly be more pushy and not be satisfied with what we want to offer. We are there for both our own enjoyment and for the enjoyment of the voyeur. We both need each other, but as there are many more voyeurs than exhibitionists, if by bad behaviour the exhibitionist is put off, then the loss is felt more acutely by the voyeuristic fraternity.
We still have a lot to learn (and enjoy). However, we would agree with the comments about older/younger watchers. So far, we have only received respect and consideration from both generations, but feel that younger men could certainly be more pushy and not be satisfied with what we want to offer. We are there for both our own enjoyment and for the enjoyment of the voyeur. We both need each other, but as there are many more voyeurs than exhibitionists, if by bad behaviour the exhibitionist is put off, then the loss is felt more acutely by the voyeuristic fraternity.
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It'd be interesting to hear from the many doggers/doggers to be who advertise for meets where they expect to be involved in the action too (they always seem to go very quiet, I can only remember one guy ever openly saying watching was a waste!) - do you think just watching is a compromise on what you want? :shock:
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I don't mind just watching, and I don't mind joining in either. The problem is that there is a perception of what is going to happen, which doesn't always match up to what people expect. Personally, I quite like not knowing what will happen, but a lot of people have fixed ideas and get upset when that's not what happens.
Really interesting thread.
I'm mostly interested in watching or being watched - I'd never rule out joining in, but it is not the main motivation for me going out. I have once or twice wondered whether maybe a couple expected me to join in, when I wasn't really up for it and happier just looking.
The question about compromise is really there because some people go out with an "all or nothing" attitude, rather than just going to see what they will see (which to me, personally, is what it's all about). It's why I think Serendipity snapped up the best possible name on this forum!
I'm mostly interested in watching or being watched - I'd never rule out joining in, but it is not the main motivation for me going out. I have once or twice wondered whether maybe a couple expected me to join in, when I wasn't really up for it and happier just looking.
The question about compromise is really there because some people go out with an "all or nothing" attitude, rather than just going to see what they will see (which to me, personally, is what it's all about). It's why I think Serendipity snapped up the best possible name on this forum!
Sex God
THIS is what a dogging board should be about ! Hugs Seren xxx
Sex God
im sure we have said this earlier but excellent thread , first time ive seen dogging and why we do it discussed properly , its opened our eyes in some ways
anyway its pissing down here so we are off to make some men wet
anyway its pissing down here so we are off to make some men wet
The answer is neither. Yes the exhibitionist needs the voyeur and vice versa The trouble is look at the medias definition of dogging "couples who frequent car parks etc in order to have sex with strangers" , is it any wonder that friday nights see a car full of half pissed half brained 20 yr old lads turn up asking where are these women that are up for a shag Couples dont feel pressured into doing more than you are comfortable with we the watchers are there at your invitation, if you want to go further set your limits talk" some of us are capable of joined up thinking" any one oversteps your limits then deserves it if you tell them to f**k off or you just leave :
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We don't agree! sorry but we don't need a voyeur, just the thought and feel of having sex out doors gives us a big kick. the feel of the breeze, sun, blanket, grass or the roughness of a tree! with the added thrill of being caught doing something that you shouldn't.
But then that isn't dogging, is it? That's just outdoor sex.
Dogging, the whole point of dogging, is the exhibitionist/voyeur relationship. Guys cannot dog without someone to watch, couples cannot dog without being watched.
Sex God
Wow, whats the matter with me?...... posting in the dogging forum !
Very interesting reading this and the thread started by DD elsewhere.......... We are not into dogging, but do have similar feelings, and have done similar things to some of the posters on here.
We will sometimes be out in the car and just be chatting, when we will get the urge to stop and basically get down to it. This is really for us, just feeling a need to make love in the open there and then. We don't think about who could/could not be watching, and frankly wouldn't care anyway. To us those moments are just about the two of us doing something we really enjoy, and yes there is the distinct possibility we could be seen, which hightens the pleasure. Believe it or not we have been known to just go out in the garden on a warm summers night for the same reason. Interestingly we didn't know what dogging was till we joined this site lol, but have doing the above for many years.
Since joining this site, we have looked at the whole dogging thing, and would consider doing this but, we would not allow anyone to join in. we are happy having males join us in MMF, but only after we have gotten to know them, which realistically wouldn't always be the case when out dogging. In addition we have been put off by the "bad press" about boy racers and other wierdo's to really try.
Good luck
Very interesting reading this and the thread started by DD elsewhere.......... We are not into dogging, but do have similar feelings, and have done similar things to some of the posters on here.
We will sometimes be out in the car and just be chatting, when we will get the urge to stop and basically get down to it. This is really for us, just feeling a need to make love in the open there and then. We don't think about who could/could not be watching, and frankly wouldn't care anyway. To us those moments are just about the two of us doing something we really enjoy, and yes there is the distinct possibility we could be seen, which hightens the pleasure. Believe it or not we have been known to just go out in the garden on a warm summers night for the same reason. Interestingly we didn't know what dogging was till we joined this site lol, but have doing the above for many years.
Since joining this site, we have looked at the whole dogging thing, and would consider doing this but, we would not allow anyone to join in. we are happy having males join us in MMF, but only after we have gotten to know them, which realistically wouldn't always be the case when out dogging. In addition we have been put off by the "bad press" about boy racers and other wierdo's to really try.
Good luck
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THIS is what a dogging board should be about ! Hugs Seren xxx
My pleasure, it's lovely to see the old gang back and chatting and some new people too!
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The trouble is look at the medias definition of dogging "couples who frequent car parks etc in order to have sex with strangers" , is it any wonder that friday nights see a car full of half pissed half brained 20 yr old lads turn up asking where are these women that are up for a shag
Yes, that's exactly what's been on my mind of late and because so many people take media reporting as chapter and verse, they come away feeling short changed - and probably informing couples who've been around dogging for a long time that they're not doing it properly!
It's also possible that some of these guys might be decent doggers if they read threads here rather than reading the NOTW or similar poop! However, hopefully good responses like the ones on this thread might save one or two of them from that and give encouragement to new couples like Neil & Lucy (hi 
).Carparkfun, I think I'd have to disagree somewhat with your comment to Outlaws2001 though - what they and Him'nHer have described is dogging, if you ask some people they'd tell you that's how dogging started, couples having sex in cars or outdoors who found the idea of being caught an extra turn on but not essential - going out purposely to show isn't the only form of dogging, it's just the most common one (luckily!) :D
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is dogging, if you ask some people they'd tell you that's how dogging started, couples having sex in cars or outdoors who found the idea of being caught an extra turn on but not essential - going out purposely to show isn't the only form of dogging, it's just the most common one (luckily!)
Perhaps someone should tell whoever runs thios site then. Click on the "dogging" tab at the top of this page and you'll get a different definition to the one you mention here...
My understanding of dogging is pretty much as is on that link. What you have described is couples having sex in their car. That is all. Dogging is the intention to be seen, not just the act of sex in a car/outdoors.
It's also the single guys who defined the term when stopped by the police - "just taking the dog for a walk officer"...
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is dogging, if you ask some people they'd tell you that's how dogging started, couples having sex in cars or outdoors who found the idea of being caught an extra turn on but not essential - going out purposely to show isn't the only form of dogging, it's just the most common one (luckily!)
Perhaps someone should tell whoever runs thios site then. Click on the "dogging" tab at the top of this page and you'll get a different definition to the one you mention here...
Hmmm, I clicked on it and it says pretty much the same thing....to the effect that couples were being spied on which evolved as more and more couples openly encouraged doggers to watch them! However, it's only a description, not gospel
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Hiya carparkfun, "dogging is nothing new"
in the begining, it must of been couples having outdoor sex, way before cars were invented, that an opportunist happen upon the "act" got out his jollies and had a good time watching. he even probally turned up there repeatedly to see if it would happen again!
my husband remembers vividly swaning down the river slowly in a boat as a young teanager with his dad! and there was a couple, she laying back in the fork of a tree and the boys trousers around his ankles going for it!
for us it happen in much the same way, we were teenagers, out having a good time in the back seat of an old mk 11 jag ( thats when they were cheep and no one wanted them) in the woods. some peeping tom came up to get a better view wiped the window and scared the life out of us. a mad panic to get our cloths on and drive off home. It was only afterwards when we talked about it (luckily) that we found it a turn on.
In the late seventies and eighties the car parks were the place for couples to have sex (you wern't allowed to do it at home) and there were very few peeping toms. It was more of a case of as you got more turned on that you opened the window more so that the sight and sounds of what you was doing was tranfered to the in his car with his window open..... also the feel of cool air onto hot flesh! It was just an added buzz you wasn't really performing for someone
what we are trying to say is.......when we go out we do lots of things beside shopping, which can be a good turn on! ........Dress up...... a little bit of a flash of leg (accidently of course) with an over the knee boot and watch the reactions. from men and women! bend at the waist to display your assets girls, I am sure that you will get more men going shopping with you. treat it as fun! We do photo shoots, film and also just enjoy the views, the trees are beautiful at the moment, ah almost forgot have sex.
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Serendipity......... A big thanks for the start of this thread, it will help new couples and hopfully new single male doggers to understand what is and isn't acceptable, we all have different levels so please respect others......................compromise, no, everyone is different, set what you and your otherhalf are happy with, if you BOTH decided to move them latter either way then do it. do it for the right reason ....YOUR pleasure no one elses........then you will have fun!
If you get a pushy dogger tell him to go play with himself........
in the begining, it must of been couples having outdoor sex, way before cars were invented, that an opportunist happen upon the "act" got out his jollies and had a good time watching. he even probally turned up there repeatedly to see if it would happen again!
my husband remembers vividly swaning down the river slowly in a boat as a young teanager with his dad! and there was a couple, she laying back in the fork of a tree and the boys trousers around his ankles going for it!
for us it happen in much the same way, we were teenagers, out having a good time in the back seat of an old mk 11 jag ( thats when they were cheep and no one wanted them) in the woods. some peeping tom came up to get a better view wiped the window and scared the life out of us. a mad panic to get our cloths on and drive off home. It was only afterwards when we talked about it (luckily) that we found it a turn on.
In the late seventies and eighties the car parks were the place for couples to have sex (you wern't allowed to do it at home) and there were very few peeping toms. It was more of a case of as you got more turned on that you opened the window more so that the sight and sounds of what you was doing was tranfered to the in his car with his window open..... also the feel of cool air onto hot flesh! It was just an added buzz you wasn't really performing for someone
what we are trying to say is.......when we go out we do lots of things beside shopping, which can be a good turn on! ........Dress up...... a little bit of a flash of leg (accidently of course) with an over the knee boot and watch the reactions. from men and women! bend at the waist to display your assets girls, I am sure that you will get more men going shopping with you. treat it as fun! We do photo shoots, film and also just enjoy the views, the trees are beautiful at the moment, ah almost forgot have sex.
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Serendipity......... A big thanks for the start of this thread, it will help new couples and hopfully new single male doggers to understand what is and isn't acceptable, we all have different levels so please respect others......................compromise, no, everyone is different, set what you and your otherhalf are happy with, if you BOTH decided to move them latter either way then do it. do it for the right reason ....YOUR pleasure no one elses........then you will have fun!
If you get a pushy dogger tell him to go play with himself........
