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Quote by Kazsc
Now here is a suggestion :idea: ......the peeps that initiate a thread could end it with a paragraph on how the meet went. We will al be able to spot the time wasters if this was done.

That is not a bad idea.
I'm not generally in favour of 'name and shame' as it is always open to abuse by those with grudges. But something needs to be done and if the same old names kept appearing as being 'unreliable' then people could draw their own conclusions.
L xxx
Quote by Lonni
Now here is a suggestion :idea: ......the peeps that initiate a thread could end it with a paragraph on how the meet went. We will al be able to spot the time wasters if this was done.

That is not a bad idea.
I'm not generally in favour of 'name and shame' as it is always open to abuse by those with grudges. But something needs to be done and if the same old names kept appearing as being 'unreliable' then people could draw their own conclusions.
L xxx
So you have a falling out with one person on here Lonni.
Their friends then set up ficticious meets and state that Lonni never turned up and is unreliable.
How are you going to counter argue that? Especially if all their friends are couples or single fems.......since a lot of single men will believe anything they are told as long as it will get them a shag.
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
So you have a falling out with one person on here Lonni.
Their friends then set up ficticious meets and state that Lonni never turned up and is unreliable.
How are you going to counter argue that? Especially if all their friends are couples or single fems.......since a lot of single men will believe anything they are told as long as it will get them a shag.
Dave_Notts

I have already answered that in my original post. Look at the numbers. If one person gives me a really bad rep. and tons of others give me glowing praise, anyone looking would go "Hmm. I wonder what is going on here!", and possibly even contact me to find out, whereupon I have the opportunity to tell them about the mad, stalking woman from Huff on the Hill who fell out with me really badly when I refused to marry her and move to Switzerland.
Of course, that's not to say that a determined person with multiple logins and lots of unscrupulous friends couldn't make things difficult for someone on here but would anyone really be that arsed?
L xxx
Quote by Lonni

So you have a falling out with one person on here Lonni.
Their friends then set up ficticious meets and state that Lonni never turned up and is unreliable.
How are you going to counter argue that? Especially if all their friends are couples or single fems.......since a lot of single men will believe anything they are told as long as it will get them a shag.
Dave_Notts

I have already answered that in my original post. Look at the numbers. If one person gives me a really bad rep. and tons of others give me glowing praise, anyone looking would go "Hmm. I wonder what is going on here!", and possibly even contact me to find out, whereupon I have the opportunity to tell them about the mad, stalking woman from Huff on the Hill who fell out with me really badly when I refused to marry her and move to Switzerland.
Of course, that's not to say that a determined person with multiple logins and lots of unscrupulous friends couldn't make things difficult for someone on here but would anyone really be that arsed?
L xxx
I'd say the person who had numerous people slagging them off would be slightly miffed.
You may be able to handle the flak and weather it out.....but those who couldn't would just leave and there goes another genuine swinger just because of naming and shaming.
Underground naming and shaming works without having to go public. If someone is an arse it gets around anyway.
Dave_Notts
Quote by djduck22
Wa advertise a dogging meet we get over 30 replys we get in touch with 6 peolple who interest us then we send them messeges with location and time and all we ask is can you ring or txt to say ure going to be there they all do then only 1 turns up
Why do peolple send several messeges gagging to meet you then when they get the details they carnt be arsed to show up or even ring or txt to say there not going to come wife is starting to think its here

Probably because they think that as you've invited numerous people, they won't be missed so don't see a need to bother. This happens in swinging and dogging alike, so you either get used to it and live with it or stop trying to arrange things and go out to find the doggers who are already out there.
If you really have to have arranged meets though, you had one guy turn up so you have the start of a network of reliable people. There's a always an upside, if you look for it!
Quote by Serendipity
you had one guy turn up so you have the start of a network of reliable people. There's a always an upside, if you look for it!

I love this kind of thinking! cool
Why can't we have more of it? confused:
Lonni xxx
Par for the course I should think.
Unfortunately there will allways be people who do not follow through, whatever their reasons and it will always be part and parcel of the experience.
Most people, and I include myself have been left high and dry at the last minuete, maybe thats how some people get their kicks. But most likely that in most cases they have "changed their mind" and decided not to go through with it and probably think that you will work it out for yourself eventually !!!
On the odd occasion that I have not been able to turn up to a planned meeting I let the person(s) that I am meating know, after all its only common sense and good manners.
As to good old fashioned dooging, well in my neck of the woods it seems to be a predominately gay activity nowadays with little if any female/couple activity.
Then again perhaps I'm gonig to the wrong parts of sunny Northants.
Thats enough from me,given my twopenneth worth.
Cheers
Slider
Will a rating system stop it? Personally I think not.
If you don't do arranged meets you never get let down !
I spent a few hours in the back of a car last night, chatting to the couple in the front (they only go for couples)(but they give a good show). And yesterday I noted the single girl that everyone in talking about in the ********* circuit....a total smasher....
There is plenty about, but if you just drive from carpark to carpark you are not going to get anything.
So, carry-on arranging....it keeps you all out of the carparks with your endless up-and-downing !!
Quote by Dave__Notts
Underground naming and shaming works without having to go public. If someone is an arse it gets around anyway.
Dave_Notts

Not true! I know two people on here (one male, one female) who have both now left the site because of all the (untrue) shit that was whispered about them, initiated by just one person who had been given a knock back by one of the parties.
john x
Quote by Lonni
you had one guy turn up so you have the start of a network of reliable people. There's a always an upside, if you look for it!

I love this kind of thinking! cool
Why can't we have more of it? confused:
Lonni xxx
Dippy ain't bad either wink x
After reading all of the above, all of which is fairly relavant, the bottom line is this..
1. Don't waste peoples time if you have no intention of turning up..
2. If for some reason you do intend on turning up but have to cancel, the CANCEL don't just be a no show.. i know it seams like comon sense but some members still don't do it.. There are very few that i have met who would be annoyed.. Genuine people understand that sometimes genuine problems happen.
All the time wasters only make it more difficult for the genuine people to have fun.. unfortunately there are to many pic collectors and time wasters on all swinging sites..
All we can do is grin and bear it and hope that they get bored and move elsewhere..
Lots to be said for Ebay style rating systems..
Player
Quote by BIoke
Dippy ain't bad either wink x

Awww ta leatherdrawers :wink:
Quote by Player2008
Lots to be said for Ebay style rating systems..

Maybe we can get Playpal too so people can leave a deposit on dogging meets.
Oh wait, some already do! :wanker:
as i a couple who get together for fun when we can it also frustrating after mailing etc for the guy not to turn up but what we have now found better is we ask them to phone at certain time and if they do with no withheld number they usually they turn up.
we also have had to call off at last moment and it does happen.
use to go dogging many years ago at a well known lake in cheshire near northwich those were the days it was like ncp car parks on a thursday night.
Quote by Lonni

Underground naming and shaming works without having to go public. If someone is an arse it gets around anyway.
Dave_Notts

Not true! I know two people on here (one male, one female) who have both now left the site because of all the (untrue) shit that was whispered about them, initiated by just one person who had been given a knock back by one of the parties.
john x
Yet you are advocating public name and shame?
If you know friends have been driven away with "underground name and shame", why would you want public name and shame?
Dave__Notts
I dont go dogging very often, more on a whim if im comming back from somewher, and just pop into certain sites.
1. I never shine lights into other cars.
2. I dont approach a car unless im certain, if if i do and they are not interested then i respectfully walk away.
3.I have met a few via SH, and on one occasion 5 of us turned up for an open air bukkake session, she and her boyfreind went away happy (and soaked) as did we.
Ive met some realy nice couples at sites, and have chatted and many dont go any further than a chat, which isnt a problem.
Boy racers are a problem,immature, dickheads that are larging it up with their mates....
As for gay/bi's i personally dont have a problem with it as long as they dont force the issue in my direction, again ive had chats with gays/bi's no problem with that.
Please excuse the rubbish English, ive used "problem" far too many times, but i thank you get the gist of it.
Cheers,
Be lucky all.
Ringo
please let me knw wen you are having a session as im intrested and wont let you down...
Quote by Dave__Notts
If you know friends have been driven away with "underground name and shame", why would you want public name and shame?
Dave__Notts

I would have thought that was obvious.
L x
We have the same problem with being let down. we had a guy last Sat who text to say he was up for meeting and then asked the where and what time and said that it was no problem and he would see us there. lucky the meet was in our local pub and we didn't make a long trip but 20 mins from the appointed time he back out saying he had eaten too much and didn't feel well. i find it hard to believe that in the few mins between text messages he managed to stuff himself full of food. We looked on here in the chatrooms for a replacement but as soon as we told any guy/couple we wanted them to play that night they bottled out too. In the end we went to Devils near Brighton (10 mins from us) and had a really good time with a couple of guys there while others watched and drooled..
When i was a single guy i had meets arainged with couples and always turned up and had a good time
I agree with silk and big g go for the dogging an you would not feel as bad if nobody is there , alot of peeps are just here for a quick ego boost and are not really interested in meeting , dont get me wrong we have had many a good turn out , especially on our hotel meets and also our carpark meets , at the end of the day it is just pot luck you receive replies from the gen peeps.
I meet a couple who I met through this site who advertised for a dogging meet. I was the only bloke who turned up!
I now meet them on a regular basis and have a great time.
as a pussy-starved bi man - I find I get more luck spontaneous dogging than arranged meets. Sometimes spontaneous meets result in "come back to our place|" I don't refuse
Hi,
I've had some great dogging experiences over the last few years none of which were planned, many with the same couple who having played once the next time they spotted my car they came straight over and away we went. Many a time I've just sat in the car park watching the endless stream of cars coming in and out others I've been able to watch and get my thrills that way (I'll fit in with whatever. As somebody else said I do alot of spontaneous dogging. If I'm coming back from a night out or a late meeting and pull off the M65 and frequent a few spots. If lucks in great, if not...nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Must admit though, contrary to what was said earlier I don't always wear dark clothing. One couple I spoke to said they get freaked out by ninjas creeping around their car so I prefer to make myself seen.
Ive heard about a lot of no shows...just dont understand it! you can count on me smile totally genuine and will be there...
Roost
You have provided an ideal example....which I'm gonna use so PLEASE don't take it personal, because it really is not!
You are saying that you will definately turn up....how can you? There has been no when, where, how etc. etc. discussed and NOBODY is available 24/7.
Your profile gives no real details and your location is not shown, so no one can tell if inviting you is going to be practicle.
Your profile does say that yo are married, that is admirably honest, however, you are on here as a single. There is no issue with that, except, assuming you work and assuming your wife is unaware of your "extra" activities, then the time you have available and the time you can spend travelling is, to say the very least, limited.
In other words, if you were to get a definate invite right this second, the odds are huge that you would either cry off, or just not turn up.
And THAT is the problem!
Your wish and your intentions may be 100% genuine, BUT, comes the crunch and wifey insists on going late night shopping at Tesco.....see what I mean?
Quote by dippergt750
Your wish and your intentions may be 100% genuine, BUT, comes the crunch and wifey insists on going late night shopping at Tesco.....see what I mean?

No......
Let wifey go shopping, arrange the meet at the tesco carpark. They do 24 hour shopping now....wifey shops, hubby shags.
Win-win.
Personally, I favour our local Tesco on a Friday or Saturday night, at a time when all the young lasses are filtering into the store en-masse to purchase copious amounts of Cider and assorted Alco-pops to facilitate a rapid state of inebriation . it’s a matter of perspective and not being able to see the wood for the trees. To comprehensively cover the angles here would be a lengthy exercise, redface].
Suffice to say, as a exhibitionistic couple, we have no issues with seedy men in dark clothing plying their furtive trade about our vehicle. Those guys are actually the true doggers, but if a fella chooses to present himself in a fetching pair of corduroy slacks for example, we’ll not recoil in abject horror lol . The day will soon be upon us where couples demand of their doggers that clothing be left at the entrance, and subsequent movements around the car park carried out whilst sporting only a white towel around the nether regions. Dress in a manner that suits your objectives, and don’t be troubled by all the nonsense wink .
Quote by dirtydoggers
unburdened by knickerly garmenture was heart stopping, only for the fact I momentarilly thought I’d split my new fucking shoes

:giggle:
Quote by boggle
If lucks in great, if not...nothing ventured, nothing gained.

That's really the bottom line isn't it! Those who spend half an hour in a car park then rush home so that they can post on the internet about how crap dogging is are perhaps missing what I can only describe as the "naughty gene" that makes dogging fun in the first place.