well we tried the pre-arranged this weekend and it was a disaster, 4 guys invited, out of dozens of replies and not one of them showed up or would answer their phone. at least for us at the moment, yes dogging is dead!
Unfortunately I thinks so, whilst the internet has been good for meeting people it has meant that sites have attracted the unwelcome idiots who have no patience, no concept of any etiquette and some clearly haven't heard of soap
In west yorks there has been such an increase in police activity that genuine people have been put off with the hassle
Doggin is dying off. Iv visited many, many area's recently and its quiet. Mate of mine used a local Sauna within my area and he said it was "...empty"
Have to agree with you Dip. Dogging is very much alive. Just because we're not using all the sites that are plastered all over the net for everyone to see doesn't mean it isn't happening. It's a case of watching and waiting. I've had many experiences lately and if anything it seems to be getting better.
Dave
Hey Lou
Sorry you had such a bad experience. What a few of us have noticed is that dogging is gaining in popularity in many areas. Problem is people don't know the etiquette and expect to converge on a car the instant it pulls into a park. I have on many occassions warned eager men off of ruining a potential show. Maybe it's up to regular doggers to try and make sure we pass on the general ground rules. There are genuine people out there so don't let this experience put you off completely. I was in a car park last night with 5 other cars, 4 were single males and the other a couple. I know the couple and know that they had fun without once lighting up. No one approached the car and all males respected the couples wish to not show that night. Well done all you other men for not appoaching. Take your time Lou and maybe arrange a few meets first. Hope you find some genuine people soon.
Dave x
P.S. Yes Dip it's great that there is somewhere so close getting active again.
Single male, 35, Yorkshire.
I've been into dogging about 5 years now and seen some big changes:- less couples (hardly any), the boy racers, massive increase in the number of 'idiots' that frequent the known sites, and then there's the police doing the rounds too.
In my opinion dogging is almost dead compared to the situation 5 years ago, and this I put down to a few reasons:
The lack of dogging etiquete of people fairly new to the scene - too many people now know about it, they all 'want a go' so end up being pushy.. they don't wait for signals etc. Indeed many couples now don't even give signals, especially if they are new.
5 Years ago if anyone didn't 'tow the line' and abide by the etiquete they would have to face the wrath of the old school doggers, who would wait for signals etc, and wo bedite anyone who scared a couple away by being too pushy, not waiting for signals, gathering around a couples' car when there were already too many blokes there, driving around too much or too fast, parking too close, playing music, not having their interior lights turned off, having more than one in a car, following people in convoys, not turning lights down when entering a car park.
These days it seems anything goes - is that couple in the corner dogging? they havn't given any signals.. i know lets all walk over - will the bloke jump out with a baseball bat or will she open that window and give him a bj? saftey in numbers - lets all walk over together... ohh they suddenly went... perhaps they want to be with me alone so i'll follow them in my car... next bloke thinks ayup, they might want more than one... next bloke thinks ayup they might want more than two and if i really boot my car i can overtake him and park right beside the couple. Couple makes a long detour to avoid being followed home and never returns.
This isn't how it used to be. Just a few years ago you went to a site by yourslef and probably knew the other guys. You parked a fair distance from anyone and didn't light anyone up. If a couple came in you stayed parked where you were and in your car and awaited a signal, and a confirmation signal - that flick of the light could still have been innocent. If the couple were parked at the other end of the car park and other guys were closer, that was just pot luck.. you had to judge it - would the couple want another guy around them? Get any of this wrong and you would definitely face a bollocking from the other guys.. Scare a couple away and you would get a severe bollocking... But all this at least meant that couples were more confident to come out and people showed respect and restraint.
Compare the above to now - if more couples still gave signals and bollocked the pushy guys, then drove away, then the old school doggers could show the newbies how to behave and the couples might just come back. One thing guys - at least don't turn up with all your mates in the car! That used to be a sure sign you were gay...
Dogging has always interested me, but having heard bad reports and stories, we were reluctant to try it.....
We eventually plucked up the courage to try (with a rather large torch for 'company'), however, being rather naive, and only knowing of two spots here in the Lincoln area, we headed out to one....
There were plenty of cars there, so we parked up, waited to see if anything would happen and maybe decide to take the plunge and signal for ourselves.
We sat there for the best part of an hour and nothing happened, no-one got out of their cars, no signals, no nothing, so we left, wondering if we'd stumbled in and maybe spoilt something - as I said, totally naive here!
We'd like to try again, but not knowing of any other less conspicous sites, we're unsure of whether to attempt it.
It seems sad that some (not all) people have to blight the way for others and generally give this side of the scene a bad rep, I think one of our biggest concerns was being bombarded by a mass of single guys or having the car (or ourselves) damaged in some way. Who knows, maybe one day we might try it again, pluck up enough courage or something, I certainly don't want to rule it out entirely.
erm yeah like they get bored of sitting on mcdonalds car park for the past five years???
we could hold our breath but maybe we shouldnt
staggy
xx
Carparks are nice for kids....they can do doughnuts, do burgers and do dope....and then do some poor asshole who can't get out of the way fast enough.
And they're there for the duration.....
good points i must say..............but just fed up with all the crap that seems to be happening. im not saying lets go and start fighting them just put over a point that we have had enuff of them!! and i must say seems as tho word has gone around and not seen any off the boyracers in for cpl weeks now.
always in our chat room there always some one who cums in saying "any one out tonight" never do they venture in to the forums ,we had a add on a cpls of days ago asking for a watcher ,as per our add ,result 80 odd lookers ne replys ,well what do they want ,yet we still get the crap replys off ppl we dont look for,ie "wish i was blah older " .
, just on the subject of pre-arranged meets , we sorta think it gets away from the whole point of dogging :cry: .............................the uncertainty will anything happen .............or wont it :wink: .
:lol: ) .
, we still feel its far better going out and going for the off the cuff chance meeting , and f*ck the dickheads and the other cretins who just want to bugger things up for us all , they can go shove their heads up their ass`s and whistle dixie :twisted: :twisted: cos we ar`nt being put off also , in our area at least we know of quite a few other couples who feel exactly the same , so we are pleased to say our pastime is still alive and well up north .................well for now anyway :wink: :wink:
if the carpark is unsuitable for the intended purpose, in that distress might be caused, or recieved, then it would be wise to move on rather than attempt to reclaim the venue.
(the reason police target doggers more than couples despite doggers being there because of the couples therefore removing the latter would erradicate the former except doing the aforementioned would be legaly problematic therefore reliance is put on intimidating the majority) :lol: :roll: :lol: had they taken the time to study "single's" weatherbeaten features, they'd have realised he was more acustomed to clambering up scaffolding with a wheelbarrow full of render between his teeth than being suited and booted whilst tinkering with the keyboard ivories in "salcom and mcworther's" accounts department. :wink: 
something we've discussed privately :lol: and are in agreement that whilst such "nightmares" make for dramatic reading, they need to be put into context..
