We have been using SHeaven for about a year or so now and are a sexually adventerous couple who enjoy the swinging lifestyle and the liberation that it provides, as well as a few exciting dogging meets!
we are regulars on the forums although we read more than post having notched up a few posts ourselves though when we thought relevant or something caught our attention.
Anyway to the point, lately there seems to have been lots of posts along the lines of "is dogging dead in...." or "any action in....." well there is a simple answer to this question and it is unfortunately more and more likely to be yes to the first and no to the second!!
The reason for this i think is becoming quite clear to anybody who has been to a more kown dogging site in the last year or so!
I partook in dogging as a single male starting a few years before i met my partner and at this time hardly anybody knew what it was let alone where any sites were and times were good for those who were patient and had a bit of ettiquete.
These days any cpl who go out to known sites are either very niave or very brave in our opinion, merely the sight of a female in a car these days and it is swarmed with a gaggle of men cocks outstretched toward the window thinking the cpl is fair game and its hunting season. Now lets just put it into context here, do dogging cpls really want to be confronted by large groups of men as soon as they enter a sit, is this really the way forward? No but it is nowadays sadly the norm.
i am not writing this to rant just merely to point out that the social and media coverage and interpretation of dogging has turned genuine dogging cpls away from it and dogging now sadly seems to be in a steep decline amongst cpls who in reality are dogging, or can a group of men standing around all night hoping for some action without said cpl be construed as "dogging"?
anyway folks be interesting to get an opinion or two from cpls and single males who have a view about the dogging and want to agree or disagree with my opinions that indeed we are in a state of decline. It seems to us that the only way forward for genuine dogging cpls who want to feel safe and secure whilst enjoying the exhibitionism and risque effects and feelings that dogging provides, is to perhaps begin to arrange private and secluded meets in pre arranged non-dogging locations (which we do now) where the couple can control numbers and not have the threat of swamping etc.
Have mentioned this on here before and had a comment that went along the lines of "does this private meeting at pre arranged non dogging location take away the very essence of what dogging really is?" well i dont know but seems like the best solution in a scenario where cpls are too intimidated to go out and pursue there sexual enjoyment!!!???
well as you know we have a dogging add,and we weould rather do a prearanged meet some where quiet now ,as most places have been rather spoilt by the boyracers,but when you state in a add what you would be doing ,what sort of male your looking for we get a load of emails asking for meets ,but they dont read the add now it starts to get a bit off putting .we look for a male age 45yrs and over ,and we get emails saying"hi i am 48 blah ect"when we look at profile it says 43 ,35 ect ,we email back saying sorry its not what it says on your profile ,then we get "dont know how that is" "aw well ne harm in trying hehe" so now we dont go out a lot,when we in chat we the younger males asking"why that age" well we cant really be bothered to answer stuff like that and why should we,we have a add that tell any one what we are after and dont have to explain ,and now there seems to be to many when you pull into carparks expecting to cum str8 over to the car ,without us giving signals or letting us get settled,so now we dont bother going to the usual haunts if we want a meet we find some where quiet ,hopefully the northeast will come alive again.
I agree. the only safe way is to pre arrange and have two or three unknown safe sites picked out and keep them quiet! Have done this in glos and hope to build up a small group of fun!!
Well, it was loads better 5 years ago.
The kiss-of-death started when more couples came into the "game" who wanted more than just to be watched.
That started the influx of guys who didn't want to just watch, and the press had little to do with it....the net had a lot more then, the press hadn't really got a clue what was what.
The "doggers guide" came out of the shadows of the newsgroups and became the standard "dogging locations" (many of the locations have changed little over 5 years, even though some are now housing estates !)
As soon as the "guide" hit the streets the rest of the shit followed...press and collymore(ish) characters.
Now, many of the couples who used to play, go to clubs....less hassle of the 20th guy wanting a quick shag or the inevitable unwashed asshole trying for the tenth time to get it up....
Many of the couples who just showed gave up when they got ignored (with comments) and the guys just moved away and carried-on chatting about the "good old days" (which they'd never had anyway)
I remember with fondness having to choose between cars....many times picking black-over-white just because it was different !
There were a few times when I had to choose between two girls getting their act together and a couple....the girls always win...
Human nature I suppose, why go to a pub and have to pay for it, or to the red light area and do the same (with the extra thrill of getting more than you bargained for) when the local park does it for free....and provides rubbers too !
The fun for us in Dogging was we might get seen/someone watching
and sometimes we might put the light on so we could be seen.
But as far as we are concerned driving into a carpark now is a big no.
We have had it when we have parked up tucking into our kebabs and
There are weirdo’s around the car in seconds they aren’t doggers and
All we do is drive away.
It’s a shame but that’s life all good things come to a end.
we used to love the thrill of feeling horny, just dropping everything and going out in the car for a bit of fun. no matter what time of the day. there were places we could go and always get what we craved. sadly that is no longer the case. the only way we can get out now is by pre arranging. other wise we leave the house horny, and come home angry after having to put up with all types rididiculas behaviour, that is sometimes quite amusing and other times terrifying.
pre arranging is nothing to do with dogging in our opinion and is not any where near as exciting of the chance encounters that we used to really get off on, but it's now the only way we go out for any alfresco fun these days.
things change, times move on, like it or lump it-it's a fact!
Its just unfortunate that these idiots who call themselves "doggers" that are now frequenting most known dogging sites give us genuine polite and respectful doggers a bad name. They think they have a right to act in the way they do as soon as couples appear even during the day when they could be unsuspecting couples who are just out for a walk or drive and not for dogging purposes.
its the loud mouth twats that gossip that piss us off
Yep know what u mean wrats and I have had a very big fall out with a very good friend of urs lol for that very reason.
we used to go out about once a week to the local dogging spots and it was more exiting when it wasnt planned, but we now like alot of others are having to prearange meets with people and go to quiet spots, but then you get arsholes in the chatroom saying are you going to"**********" again and can I come, ffs the once quiet spot you had is now not quiet anymore, its a shame that the few spoil it for the rest of us!!!!!
well said,dont single guys understand it's not sexy and it's not a turn on
to have stream of cars following you around a car park,shining their headlights
in to your car.
when that starts to happen we just go home,but you always get some idiot
that thinks it's clever to follow you.
guys,just park up and wait,everything come to he that waits!!!!
thanks,had my rant.
The ones that drive about, lights ablaze, don't give a s**t about what anyone else wants.
They're always of the same type, arrogant, soaked in cheap aftershave (before wash) and in a hurry.
They won't have just fu**ed-up your car park, they'll have been through the nearest half-dozen and done the same. If there is a couple (any couple) in any car park they've been to they'll always park RIGHT next to them (about metres away) and then put on the interior light and give the (inevitable) greasy grin.....naturally, the couple bugger-off pretty fast....they probably only went in there for a quiet shag alone, not intending to be a centrepiece in someones sexual fantasy.
Try later at night....at 2200z and counting.... the "away from the wife for a drink" dogger will have gone home, Mr Greasy-Grin will have gone to prop up a bar for the final drink, so his breath smells of beer (more likely pernod and piss) before he goes home to his "Missus"...and the bo' racers will be fretting about being out late 'cause their mums will be fuming...at 2300z (and counting a little more slowly) even the police will be thinking twice about bothering, and the local town-park vigilante will be on his/her way home sulking about not spoiling anyones fun...........
Lastly, don't take it too seriously.............nothing's guaranteed in this life...............there's always another night, or day, and the assholes can't be there every night (just most of them)
we have been dogging in thetford for the lst 8 yrs now, knows the up an the downs .
but sadly it seeems the decline in dogging down here is all to do with the certain few that thinks its the god given right to muck up everyone elses fun with lights , being pushy etc this is not only the single doggers but some cples as well.
would just like to say to some of those decent doggers that go down , deal wiv the arrogant, ignorant doggers or thetford will most def die with in bout 6 months, theres only a few brave cples that are keeping it going at mo an if you dont get up off ur rses an come speak so we can see wether ur str8t or a trannie or gay how u expect us to see .
in other words get out ur car an have a walk it works for us , come say hi , u can only b told to go away or as per chatted to an then take it from there .
plz plz get out of car , cant really see any other alterantive come say hello ,
q plz to how can you ignore cples that go down there cos we are getting sik an bored sitting down there for 4 to 5 hrs being tottally ignore cheers peeps
hi, just thought id ad my thoughts and experiences on the subject. im a young single male who has been interested in dogging for maybe 3 years or so. im far from an expert but i have found that even over the period sinsce ive been on this site that things seem to be getting worse. like many have said the increased media coverage has brought dogging to the attention of many, although i cant complain to much because thats how i heard about it in the beginning. the first of the many problems is the way the media has explained dogging and the goings on. due to the way its been described most of the new comers myself included are single males. the problem seems to be that the rules and etiquet are not adhered to and this understandably has put couples off. ive lot count of the times ive sat waiting for hours only to have impatiant guys circling flashing headlights. also the massive increase in web sites advertising dogging spots. i think dogging is a vitim of its own success both because of the enjoyment of dogging so others want some of the fun and to be honest and please tell me if im wrong, dogging has been sold out. buisness has profitted on the interest in the activties and sold it out and it has bceome mainstream. so is dogging dead? maybe not, i think like many that pre arranged meets are the way forward although this poses more problems. the amount of people time wasting. we have all had it people saying they will meet you at a place only to find nobody turns up. what is the answer then? if anyone finds the answer please let me know.