Im curious as to how many men that started the lifestyle stating that they were straight, have since changed to bi-curious, or bi? Is this something that happens often? If you have changed from straight to bi, what caused the change? How long were you swinging when you decided to change? I cant speak for every man out there, but many that I know have a desire to watch their wife with another woman. Do woman ever think of their husband with another man?
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Hope this question applies to the females also lol...
Personally for me i wouldn't like to see Tony go with another guy, nothing against bi or gay people myself, just wouldn't like to see Tony do it lol..
As for me, well i am bisexual and very proud of it
And it wasn't the swinging that got me into it, its been something i have wanted to try for a long long time but had always thought i was straight and it would be a passing faze but i did end up going with a woman while Tony watched and it was a fantastic experience since that day never had a few other woman and enjoyed it every time...
Shaz x
Personally for me i wouldn't like to see Tony go with another guy, nothing against bi or gay people myself, just wouldn't like to see Tony do it lol..
As for me, well i am bisexual and very proud of it
And it wasn't the swinging that got me into it, its been something i have wanted to try for a long long time but had always thought i was straight and it would be a passing faze but i did end up going with a woman while Tony watched and it was a fantastic experience since that day never had a few other woman and enjoyed it every time...
Shaz x
at one point the thought of doing anything with men would make me shudder (not in a good way)
since i started swinging...i went from women only...to wanking a guy during a 3some, .......and onto such things as snogging men, being rimmed, wanking, sucking, being sucked. spurting cum everywhere and filming.........my most recent was a 4some with MMMF and lots of oral action going on all over the place...............so i think thats a yes ive changed a bit ........still havent fucked or been fucked by a man yet,......not sure im keen on that one....too much of an OUCH factor for me
since i started swinging...i went from women only...to wanking a guy during a 3some, .......and onto such things as snogging men, being rimmed, wanking, sucking, being sucked. spurting cum everywhere and filming.........my most recent was a 4some with MMMF and lots of oral action going on all over the place...............so i think thats a yes ive changed a bit ........still havent fucked or been fucked by a man yet,......not sure im keen on that one....too much of an OUCH factor for me
What an interesting question,
I think every man has asked himself the question would I do anything with another man, 80% probably thought "absolutely not " and I was one of them , since starting swinging and my wife telling me it was her ultimate fantasy then i've changed my opinion a little.
I've never found men physically attractive and still don't, the thought of kissing a man is not a pleasant one for me and that will never change but when things get hot and there's 3 or 4 bodies wrapped up in each other then it seemed the most natural thing in the world to start touching and sometimes sucking another man , I don't feel this makes me bi or even curious because in the cold light of day it's not something that crosses my mind and I would never do anything on my own with a single guy. when we do reply to ads it does make it a bit more interesting if the guy says he's bi and it would probably influence our choice if it came down to choosing one ad from just feel it adds a more interesting option if you feel in the mood.
Anal sex is not something that interests us and I don't think it ever will , I certainly don't think I could be a "taker " anyway.
I think every man has asked himself the question would I do anything with another man, 80% probably thought "absolutely not " and I was one of them , since starting swinging and my wife telling me it was her ultimate fantasy then i've changed my opinion a little.
I've never found men physically attractive and still don't, the thought of kissing a man is not a pleasant one for me and that will never change but when things get hot and there's 3 or 4 bodies wrapped up in each other then it seemed the most natural thing in the world to start touching and sometimes sucking another man , I don't feel this makes me bi or even curious because in the cold light of day it's not something that crosses my mind and I would never do anything on my own with a single guy. when we do reply to ads it does make it a bit more interesting if the guy says he's bi and it would probably influence our choice if it came down to choosing one ad from just feel it adds a more interesting option if you feel in the mood.
Anal sex is not something that interests us and I don't think it ever will , I certainly don't think I could be a "taker " anyway.
I know two guys who have developed a somewhat bi side after getting involved with me, I love watching guys together so have been quite open about that with them but haven't pushed my preferences onto them - both expressed their desire to experiment but both were insistent that they'd not fantasised about it previously, one was originally very against the idea. I don't believe that either of them are really bi in the commonly described sense, as they wouldn't play with another guy on their own - it's just been a way of broadening their sexual experiences.
My own experience is that because I'm dominant in that kind of scenario, the guys feel that they are being instructed/controlled and by relinquishing control it's much easier to experiment. I have no idea if that might be true for other guys on here but it was for mine....and I liked it!
This is a really interesting topic and one that I've been able to discuss with a lot of people lately!
My own experience is that because I'm dominant in that kind of scenario, the guys feel that they are being instructed/controlled and by relinquishing control it's much easier to experiment. I have no idea if that might be true for other guys on here but it was for mine....and I liked it!
This is a really interesting topic and one that I've been able to discuss with a lot of people lately!
Ive been interested in bondage and mild bdsm for a few years with my female partners and had some great fun along the way. the idea of even touching a man was not even considered
for the last year or so ,since finding swinging heaven, I have met a number of couples and some single men who enjoy this sort of fun.
I now find Im just as happy to have fun with a man or a women
I still find the idea of anal a no no, and any other relationship with a man is also out
but I suppose this does make me Bi.
so yes I have changed
for the last year or so ,since finding swinging heaven, I have met a number of couples and some single men who enjoy this sort of fun.
I now find Im just as happy to have fun with a man or a women
I still find the idea of anal a no no, and any other relationship with a man is also out
but I suppose this does make me Bi.
so yes I have changed
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I still find the idea of anal a no no, and any other relationship with a man is also out
but I suppose this does make me Bi.
so yes I have changed
I've met a lot of guys like that as well as a lot who are happy to receive anal but the ones who want to give seem be hard to find unfortunately!
Something simular cam up on this the other day
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/66813.html
I was 40 and not into swinging at all, a single male who had been in a few relationships but only with women.
Then I found this site and looking through the ads section decided it would be easy to try what I had in mind as there were others our there who felt the same.
I met a TV the first time and had a great time just touching and feeling, things have now progressed and I would now consider myself as bi.
I have also found since being with other men my sexual apitite for ladies has incearsed. I have also found a new confidence in myself as well.
I came here looking for something new and found something i maybe always wanted
and can say i still wany more of , and that not an ad
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/66813.html
I was 40 and not into swinging at all, a single male who had been in a few relationships but only with women.
Then I found this site and looking through the ads section decided it would be easy to try what I had in mind as there were others our there who felt the same.
I met a TV the first time and had a great time just touching and feeling, things have now progressed and I would now consider myself as bi.
I have also found since being with other men my sexual apitite for ladies has incearsed. I have also found a new confidence in myself as well.
I came here looking for something new and found something i maybe always wanted
and can say i still wany more of , and that not an ad
Sex God
From our personal experience I think we would say that neither of us are bi or gay nor any other convenient boxed title.
When we swing we are just plain horny as hell and we just go for it - together. Sometimes our toy is a woman, sometimes it is a man and sometimes it is a couple.
We don't label each other we just enjoy'
When we swing we are just plain horny as hell and we just go for it - together. Sometimes our toy is a woman, sometimes it is a man and sometimes it is a couple.
We don't label each other we just enjoy'
i would much rather given anal to a man than recieve it...the thought of recieving it makes me cringe.....
i too dont find men attrative although if a woman were to say ."would you do him....or him...or him" i could answer yes or not...but i dont have any physical attraction for me..
ive also decided not to meet men 1-1.....i much prefer to put a show on for any ladies that want to watch me with their male partner............
as for the 80 percent of me who thought "ewww thats not for me"
i think its more accurate to say that 80 percent of me just wouldnt admit it :)
more like 10 percent would never do it.....
i too dont find men attrative although if a woman were to say ."would you do him....or him...or him" i could answer yes or not...but i dont have any physical attraction for me..
ive also decided not to meet men 1-1.....i much prefer to put a show on for any ladies that want to watch me with their male partner............
as for the 80 percent of me who thought "ewww thats not for me"
i think its more accurate to say that 80 percent of me just wouldnt admit it
:) more like 10 percent would never do it.....
Warming the Bed
this is a thought provoking question. i have always considered my self as straight as they cum 
but since playing with couples i have found myself enjoying both gentlemen and ladies as and when in the context of a 3sum. i am not sure about anal or man on man . but i do fantasize about being tied down and used by a couple which is whatever they want. i have not gone beyond the fantasy stage as yet. so in answer to your question yes i have shifted my point of view.
bony tony
but since playing with couples i have found myself enjoying both gentlemen and ladies as and when in the context of a 3sum. i am not sure about anal or man on man . but i do fantasize about being tied down and used by a couple which is whatever they want. i have not gone beyond the fantasy stage as yet. so in answer to your question yes i have shifted my point of view.bony tony
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From our personal experience I think we would say that neither of us are bi or gay nor any other convenient boxed title.
When we swing we are just plain horny as hell and we just go for it - together. Sometimes our toy is a woman, sometimes it is a man and sometimes it is a couple.
We don't label each other we just enjoy'
But you just labeled the person you play with a toy!! 
Sex God
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Well........ only the select few get called a toy! ;)
Gem. x
Well........ only the select few get called a toy! ;)
Gem. x
A good selection of questions.. Far better put than my own posting...
The answers, I should think, lie not only within the site- similar sites, or indeed the internet.. (although that plays a major part in making contact easier), but also society itself.. The last few years, and especially this past one, have seen a major change of attitude to all things sexual, and high on that agenda are the issues of Gay acceptance, Bi- sexuality and Swinging.. all closet stuff of the past.. I for one firmly believe that it is the right way to progress. My own attitude has changed dramatically over the last few years.. somewhat due to my very own children.. well,.. young women.. and their boy-friends.. not always their partners,- though they all have been linked romantically with Bi-sexual males. I read this post and asked my eldest at 23yrs her opinion.. She says that of all the boyfriends/lovers she has seen.. (not many)... lol .., the most attentive in and out of the bedroom are those who are on the effeminate side and/or bi-sexual. also it has broadened her outlook and experiences..
as for myself!! I was straight... Straight... straight... <<< contaminated machoism... and now... I'm curious to explore that which has crept out into the limelight.. and I have to say that is due to SH and simlar sites...
Paul.
The answers, I should think, lie not only within the site- similar sites, or indeed the internet.. (although that plays a major part in making contact easier), but also society itself.. The last few years, and especially this past one, have seen a major change of attitude to all things sexual, and high on that agenda are the issues of Gay acceptance, Bi- sexuality and Swinging.. all closet stuff of the past.. I for one firmly believe that it is the right way to progress. My own attitude has changed dramatically over the last few years.. somewhat due to my very own children.. well,.. young women.. and their boy-friends.. not always their partners,- though they all have been linked romantically with Bi-sexual males. I read this post and asked my eldest at 23yrs her opinion.. She says that of all the boyfriends/lovers she has seen.. (not many)... lol .., the most attentive in and out of the bedroom are those who are on the effeminate side and/or bi-sexual. also it has broadened her outlook and experiences..
as for myself!! I was straight... Straight... straight... <<< contaminated machoism... and now... I'm curious to explore that which has crept out into the limelight.. and I have to say that is due to SH and simlar sites...
Paul.
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The last few years, and especially this past one, have seen a major change of attitude to all things sexual, and high on that agenda are the issues of Gay acceptance, Bi- sexuality and Swinging.. all closet stuff of the past.. I for one firmly believe that it is the right way to progress.
Very true, up to a point. The flip side of that is that bi-sexuality is being seen as fashionable (for want of a better word), particularly with women, which means there are a lot of people out there who think they want it then back out at the last minute. Last minute nerves from bi-curious people are understandable but it can be frustrating when meets are cancelled at very short notice when the reality is that they probably had cold feet well before then.
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The last few years, and especially this past one, have seen a major change of attitude to all things sexual, and high on that agenda are the issues of Gay acceptance, Bi- sexuality and Swinging.. all closet stuff of the past...
Well, I don't think so.
That there has been a "major change of attitude to all things sexual", that is.
At least in the gay or bi area.
It's always been fashionable to shag your mates wife (as long as he didn't know), so now it is maybe ok to shag her with him there as well, but shagging your mate instead of his wife is still going to cause you problems down the pub. Not least in the dental department, as in your teeth will be loosened by a few people.
For "change of attitude" try walking down the high street hand in hand with your mate....ok if you're two women (nudge, nudge: wink, wink....hey, lets watch two lezzies shagging).............
Try it if you're two men.....especially on a Friday night/ Saturday morning.....
Even worse, try being gay in an industrial environment, or on a building site.
Nah, the "change" has only been amongst those who already "did" it, being more likely to admit it to themselves and others.
Everyone else is still full of shit.
Orgasminator
I personally feel that were it not for the presure of society; most people are, if not emotionally bi-sexual at least sexually bi-sexual.
If you look at any other animal same sex occurs when either there is a lack of the opersite sex, or just for the hell of it, whats pleasurable is done... where the species doesnt just have sex for the pure act of procreation.
I also feel that within the gay comunity there is also a lot of preasure to be "gay" with the exclusion of the opersite sex, and do find it interesting that when you talk to people in the gay comunity far more women seem to be "gay" due to bad experiences with men or even an outright hatred of men in general... where as with the gay males they don't tend to hate either sex just find one more sexually arousing and attractive, if you exclude from both hating people that are homophobic.
I dont agree with the kinsey scale of sexuality... its to simple...
I enjoy sex with both sexes, but find I have more of an emotional connection (ie love, in what ever way you can describe that feeling) with women... now that may be due to socital preasure or just my own subconcious choice.
I think you also have to take into concideration that "swinging" in a group situation requires a relaxing of sexuality as if you've just watched your partner get a right royal shafting and go in for sloppy seconds then its same sex contact by proxie, also you have to be comfortable with the same sex in a sexual environment even if there is no concious contact, ie two people of the same sex explicitly engage in same sex contact, as any kind of 3some or moresome requires some form of contact (excluding voyerisum) and even that has an indirect contact during the voyerisum and contact by proxie when the couple come together later assuming they dont de-contaminate using bio-hazard procedures.
... off to write a thesis on the subject... all i need is to know how many words I need to write for a phd, lmao
If you look at any other animal same sex occurs when either there is a lack of the opersite sex, or just for the hell of it, whats pleasurable is done... where the species doesnt just have sex for the pure act of procreation.
I also feel that within the gay comunity there is also a lot of preasure to be "gay" with the exclusion of the opersite sex, and do find it interesting that when you talk to people in the gay comunity far more women seem to be "gay" due to bad experiences with men or even an outright hatred of men in general... where as with the gay males they don't tend to hate either sex just find one more sexually arousing and attractive, if you exclude from both hating people that are homophobic.
I dont agree with the kinsey scale of sexuality... its to simple...
I enjoy sex with both sexes, but find I have more of an emotional connection (ie love, in what ever way you can describe that feeling) with women... now that may be due to socital preasure or just my own subconcious choice.
I think you also have to take into concideration that "swinging" in a group situation requires a relaxing of sexuality as if you've just watched your partner get a right royal shafting and go in for sloppy seconds then its same sex contact by proxie, also you have to be comfortable with the same sex in a sexual environment even if there is no concious contact, ie two people of the same sex explicitly engage in same sex contact, as any kind of 3some or moresome requires some form of contact (excluding voyerisum) and even that has an indirect contact during the voyerisum and contact by proxie when the couple come together later assuming they dont de-contaminate using bio-hazard procedures.
... off to write a thesis on the subject... all i need is to know how many words I need to write for a phd, lmao
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[For "change of attitude" try walking down the high street hand in hand with your mate....ok if you're two women (nudge, nudge: wink, wink....hey, lets watch two lezzies shagging).............
Try it if you're two men.....especially on a Friday night/ Saturday morning.....
Even worse, try being gay in an industrial environment, or on a building site.
Nah, the "change" has only been amongst those who already "did" it, being more likely to admit it to themselves and others.
Everyone else is still full of shit.
Utter codswallop...lol
Seriously though.. in just the Brighton area alone, (used to live near), there are hundreds...nay thosands of gay people congregating there annualy, and more and more are choosing to stay and start a life by the sea. But much more noticeable is that they are indeed being visually affectionate toward eachother and holding hands and kissing in public etc etc. I'm surprised this attitude isn't more widely spread.. and as for the industrial area of employment or construction... I can tell you from experience that there are many gay men and women employed within these areas. I think that maybe you may need to lighten up your attitudes and look around you... the world is changing ever so fast... blink and you'll miss your chance to keep "in the know". It's acually a real shame you feel gays are undervalued and kept in the dark spaces between reality and ignorance... cos they ain't. well not in the real world anyway... just in the political one but even there they have made massive advancements.
Chill ... :jagsatwork: LOL...
Paul.
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