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Before the bitching begins, this isn't a witch hunt(just wanted to clear that up.... redface )
All I want to say is after a few "meet" messages from bi guys I noticed a lot of their profiles said " straight".
When I enquired as to why I got this reply " Because most straight cpls/guys find bi on a profile off putting."
Now what I find hard to believe is that not only in this day and age but more so in this game that some people assume that a bi guy is gonna jump a straight guy...this isn't the case and I speak from experiance as the fem half of a bi cpl.
All comments gratefully recieved and no offence intended.
C xc
Quote by GnC29teeside
Before the bitching begins, this isn't a witch hunt(just wanted to clear that up.... redface )
All I want to say is after a few "meet" messages from bi guys I noticed a lot of their profiles said " straight".
When I enquired as to why I got this reply " Because most straight cpls/guys find bi on a profile off putting."
Now what I find hard to believe is that not only in this day and age but more so in this game that some people assume that a bi guy is gonna jump a straight guy...this isn't the case and I speak from experiance as the fem half of a bi cpl.
All comments gratefully recieved and no offence intended.
C xc

Do yourself a favour and go into the chat rooms. and see what is the most popular rooms consistantly.
It will be the bi'gay married room or....the bi cd/tv room.
Does that answer your question?
Thanks for the reply Kenty but I do go in the chatrooms and i'm normally in the NE/NE Bi/BiTVCD room....I was on about what bi guys say to me when I ask them why their profile says straight......I also stated it wasn't a witch hunt.
Even in this lifestyle, there are some who are homophobic. The bi-guys will then just "forget" to put this on their profile to ensure they appeal to a broader range of potential meets.
Dave_Notts
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Even in this lifestyle, there are some who are homophobic. The bi-guys will then just "forget" to put this on their profile to ensure they appeal to a broader range of potential meets.
Dave_Notts

Very true Dave which I find very sad. Maybe I'm a tad naive but then again I'm not a small minded, homophobic biggott thankfully.. wink
Quote by GnC29teeside
Even in this lifestyle, there are some who are homophobic. The bi-guys will then just "forget" to put this on their profile to ensure they appeal to a broader range of potential meets.
Dave_Notts

Very true Dave which I find very sad. Maybe I'm a tad naive but then again I'm not a small minded, homophobic biggott thankfully.. wink
On the other side of the coin, the people who you call small minded, homophobic bigots would call it choice. Their right to choose their own playmates, to whatever standards they want.
In my view, them and you are both correct and should do whatever you feel like doing as long as it is within the law.
Personally I have never felt intimidated as a straight male by bi or gay men in any meet situation I have ever been in. I couldn't give a monkeys, as I respect their limits as long as they respect mine
Dave_Notts
In edit: meet means play or social meet. This is before a sharp eyed eagle points out how I can be straight and have a meet with a gay guy and still be straight lol
Again Dave very true but it boils my blood to think that some people can think that way...hey-ho such is life I guess.
This thread was never meant to cause offence to anyone..as stated on the 1st post I was merely curious as to why some choose to hide it.
C xx
No offence caused here and I, for one, think it is a good thread to start and discuss :thumbup:
I am going to stop posting now as I don't want to hijack your post
Dave_Notts
i have always been honest and open about my sexuality on my prof,and have never met with any i know of guys who are scared it may put people of.
have to say that this whole gay/bi thing cracks me up.
Any chance that you can just be horny?
Neither of us are gay, or bisexual but the word "straight" does not sound like a word that should even be used in the swinging environment. In every other context "straight" means adopting the straight and narrow, so to speak - and so where does that fit anywhere in a swinging lifestyle?
What does it mean if you are a couple and you just love full on fleshy threesomes, foursomes and orgies? What label is that please? Cos that is us smile
Mrs Hot will have some soft girlie play with a girl or girls and she loves it when two guys are all over her and by the very nature of the act in extremely close proximity with each other. Does that make her bisexual? Does it make us trysexual? WTF ???
Maybe the "straight" guys say as much on their couples profile because their partner doesn't know they have some bi tendencies... dunno
Equally, some guys will say in their couples profile that their partner is a bifem because that is what they want their fem to be, rather than it actually being the case :shock:
Funny old world, isn't it.
Flower we all have our own opinions hunni and as a fellow human I appreciate yours...and yes maybe biggot was a tad strong but you get the idea?
No offence was meant at all but some people can and do mis-read posts and take them to heart.
Thanks for the feedback so far everyone.
C x
Profiles can be misleading. I found in some cases if people wanted a way out of a meeting, they simply chose anything on your list of preferences and said we don't do that. 'So sorry goodbye'.
Also if your initial experience is going to be fairly straight and conventional, its quite a leap to change to bdsm or anal in the early stages of forming a relationship.
So I feel that profiles can put people off as much as they turn them on. In that its worrying that people's expectations could lead to something very challenging or extremely embarrassing.
In which case people tend to take it all with a pinch of salt I think, and don't necessarily believe them to be accurate either way.
The bifem thing has somehow become convincing. its almost like a rubber stamp which adds an extra assurance or almost a guarantee that you will be meeting a totally committed experience from people. That swingers have the obligatory bi fem.
But again its something else which needs to be considered and not to draw upon as a conclusion.
Quote by GnC29teeside
Even in this lifestyle, there are some who are homophobic. The bi-guys will then just "forget" to put this on their profile to ensure they appeal to a broader range of potential meets.
Dave_Notts

Very true Dave which I find very sad. Maybe I'm a tad naive but then again I'm not a small minded, homophobic biggott thankfully.. wink
Obviously not as you are openly bi but for a lot of guys whilst they may be bi or curious, they still will not be open about it.
We have been swinging for a few years now and I can say that out of all the couples we have met, where in their profile it states the guy is straight, 80% of the guys are not straight at all.
That has and still is one of the biggest suprises about swinging.
Guys who decide to not be so open about it, they have their reasons, and no doubt one reason is different to somebody else,s reasons.
There are still a lot of people who are anti gay, and maybe that is a reason why some guys decide to keep it to themselves?
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Yep ...I get the idea ...
Anybody who holds a preference about not wanting to meet bi guys is a homophobic bigot.
Or isn`t that what you said ??
I don`t really understand ..
Why people can`t have this preference.
Why you immediately assume that the "straight" guys are being truthful.

Erm ok flower the homophobic bit was in response to summat Dave replied and this thread is being taken out of context and i did put a wink after my reply which to me reads as "tongue in cheek".
All I really wanted to know was why do so many bi guys have straight profiles...easy as that....
Oh and kents it's not a bi male typing this if you'd read one of my replies you'd of seen it's the fem half of the bi cpl...so it's Caz not Geoff..does that make it a bit more clear?
Can I just add that Geoff and I are very open and honest about our sexuality, not only in here but in real life too and if people don't like it then so be it.
We don't see the need to hide who and what we are with people around us and with each other...why are people taking this thread the wrong way? sad
Quote by GnC29teeside
Can I just add that Geoff and I are very open and honest about our sexuality, not only in here but in real life too and if people don't like it then so be it.
We don't see the need to hide who and what we are with people around us and with each other...why are people taking this thread the wrong way? sad

'cos you aint Godlike yet worship like wot they is and maybe they are just jealous.
But keep posting, you're doing fine :thumbup:
There's no such thing as the RONSEAL swinger. they all come with a variety of do's and don'ts, they all feel its right to go about how they want. Even if its entirely in contradiction to themselves. There isn't an example you can compare yourself to.
If I ask the question would anyone like to come forward and demonstrate they are a good example of a swinger, no one will reply.
As a straight male living in Brighton I have heard the word "homophobic" banded about far too much for my liking. I have played with at least one couple where the male is bisexual, and he was quite happy with an MMF that didn't involve any homosexual contact. That is because I'm a straight man who has no desire whatsoever to have sex with a man, and am not worried that I might be tempted.
The word "homophobic" is just another negative epithet used by self interest groups to place themselves above criticism. A phobia is an anxiety disorder characterized by extreme and irrational fear of simple things or social situations. See Link.

Some people are not especially keen on me, believe it or not! Does that mean that whatever their real reason for that is I should simply dismiss them as being Geezerphobic? I used to work with a gay chap who absolutely hated coloured people and was warned about abusing an African fellow in another department, the African fellow hated gay men and he had to be warned about abusing the gay chap. So how would the politically correct describe these two men? I had no say in any of this as they were on days and I was on nights, but I did suggest putting them in a boxing ring and letting them slug it out. I won't repeat the daft jokes that followed that suggestion, they all had something to do with banging in the ring.
In my opinion the world has gone victim mad, this is not about equality this is about some people who want to be more equal than the rest.
I shall now be watching my mailbox ready to report any Geezerphobic messages immediately! biggrin
Quote by GnC29teeside
Yep ...I get the idea ...
Anybody who holds a preference about not wanting to meet bi guys is a homophobic bigot.
Or isn`t that what you said ??
I don`t really understand ..
Why people can`t have this preference.
Why you immediately assume that the "straight" guys are being truthful.

Erm ok flower the homophobic bit was in response to summat Dave replied and this thread is being taken out of context and i did put a wink after my reply which to me reads as "tongue in cheek".
All I really wanted to know was why do so many bi guys have straight profiles...easy as that....
Oh and kents it's not a bi male typing this if you'd read one of my replies you'd of seen it's the fem half of the bi cpl...so it's Caz not Geoff..does that make it a bit more clear?
As clear as water..... wink
If you have followed the forums in any way, then you should know this was likely to go down the road it has....take it from one that knows about these things. :wink:
You are still entitled to your opinions, even the bigot one.... I am used to that as well as other things so.....ya keep posting. :wink:
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Can I just add that Geoff and I are very open and honest about our sexuality, not only in here but in real life too and if people don't like it then so be it.
We don't see the need to hide who and what we are with people around us and with each other...why are people taking this thread the wrong way? sad

Dont worry gn.
its the first part of the cafe initiation process,
your thread is ripped apart then BIoke Brucie and flower turn up at yours with king kong,and i dont mean the monkey
Youll both be walking funny for a few days,but my the orgasms! wink
What? What have Bloke etc got to do with it?
There is a big stigma, in my experience, about male bisexuality. There shouldn't be, but there is.
I do think a lot of guys feel the need to hide their bi-ness, or perhaps 'hide' is too strong - maybe 'selectively reveal' is more appropriate. As others have said, I think it perhaps stems from a worry about the reaction from couples or the assumption that they are automatically going to jump on any guy's cock.
This is an interesting thread and there isn't any reason why it should go down a particular route. It is a topic worth discussing, in my opinion.
I have played in a few bi mmf situations. I would say that the majority of men my buddy and I play with are 'straight' according to their profiles. Why have straight profiles? Their reasons vary (because I have asked a few of them) and range from the fact that they are pretty much straight and occasionally dabble in the bi arena but feel that 'bi-curious' is not accurate but neither is 'bisexual'. (Actually that is very similar to the way I feel about labelling myself on here, but then I am a girl so I am allowed to dip in and out of sexual identities aren't I?! :winksmile Sometimes they are just exploring bi sex and so have stuck with straight, sometimes they openly admit that they are uncomfortable with the label bisexual. Other times they are on the site primarly to meet females so they keep straight as a default.
What I am trying to inarticulately say is that there are no doubt a myriad reasons.
I'm a firm believer in the sexuality continuum anyway, so three labels seem somewhat arbitrary to me.
Nola... happily sort of situationally bi comfy. Ish.
Quote by GnC29teeside
All I really wanted to know was why do so many bi guys have straight profiles...easy as that....

We all already know the answers to this, there are two reasons
1)Some men don’t want to admit being bi for fear of reprisals, and most can understand this, these same men will tell you privately.
2)Some men just cannot respect other peoples choices, so they’ll say anything just to get a meet, and will continue to lie that they’re straight, even to people who state clearly they don’t want to meet bisexual men.
Whether this is homophobia or not is a different matter, but the fact remains they cannot respect other peoples choices.
It’s a can of worms, for example, we’re both straight, many a time we’ve been told, sorry only looking to meet couples with a bi female, bi male, other bi couples, no problem here, understand, its their preference and it’s respected.
It’s really all about respect, if your not what someone is looking for then move on to someone suitable rather than lie your something your not.
We’ve noticed that every time these discussions come up, you always get someone saying, bi men wont jump on you, or bi men can play straight, no one should have to defend their choice, people should just respect it without questioning it and move on to a suitable match, after all there is many bi couples on here who state they do not wish to meet straight people on their profiles, this is never questioned? And it shouldn’t be either, but the point is if bi men can play straight then bi couples can surely play straight too, or are they gay? At the end of the day its CHOICE and it should be respected.
I like this thread a lot. It has really made me think. I had no idea that some bi males here felt the need to hide or withhold there bi-ness on profiles, I, rather naively perhaps, assumed that this is one place where you could be open and have no need to hide anything. I had presumed that this is one place, due to the nature of the site, where open minded people would not be judging others.
We are here because I love to watch my wife with other men, however on occasions I may like to join in with the pleasuring of her to form a threesome, as a so called straight male; I have no problem if the other male is bi as we make boundaries clear way before we even meet.
On the other side of the coin I can see if a straight male is uncomfortable with being in the same bed as a bi male then that is a freedom of choice.
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On the other side of the coin I can see if a straight male is uncomfortable with being in the same bed as a bi male then that is a freedom of choice.

I quite agree with the freedom of choice comment :thumbup: but....
If a cpl can trust a man enough to invite him into their sex lives then why can they not trust him enough not to attempt any mm contact if it is not wanted dunno
Quote by sexoholics
We all already know the answers to this, there are two reasons

We do dunno
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1)Some men don’t want to admit being bi for fear of reprisals, and most can understand this, these same men will tell you privately.
2)Some men just cannot respect other peoples choices, so they’ll say anything just to get a meet, and will continue to lie that they’re straight, even to people who state clearly they don’t want to meet bisexual men.

I am so glad you told me there are only two reasons :thumbup:
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Their reasons vary (because I have asked a few of them) and range from the fact that they are pretty much straight and occasionally dabble in the bi arena but feel that 'bi-curious' is not accurate but neither is 'bisexual'. (Actually that is very similar to the way I feel about labelling myself on here, but then I am a girl so I am allowed to dip in and out of sexual identities aren't I?! wink)
Sometimes they are just exploring bi sex and so have stuck with straight, sometimes they openly admit that they are uncomfortable with the label bisexual.
Other times they are on the site primarly to meet females so they keep straight as a default.
What I am trying to inarticulately say is that there are no doubt a myriad reasons.

Nola, you are obviously wrong rolleyes
Oh dear oh dear...
Getting back to the original point.
I think I may be able to explain why couples don't put bi-male even if he is and it has been hinted upon by several others already. This is not intended to offend, but if you do take , please do get a life. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions.
I think there is a perception, be it rightly or wrongly, that a bisexual male is somehow not as appealling to the majority of couples as a straight male. Why that is, I have not a clue. It bears no rigorous examination of the facts and says more about peoples own narrow minded view of sexuality and their misapprehensions of others, than it does about the bisexual chap in question.
However I believe the general line of thinking to be thus; A male/female couple states they are bi-male or bi-female. With them being a couple, and it generally being understood that swingers wish to expand their sexual horizons, you look at the reasons they wish to swing. Therefore a bi-male can sate his 'female' desires with his partner. His male yearnings however, presumably, remain unsated within their relationship. This may therefore make couples wonder if they wish to do that with them, given it is overtly stated that this is his interest sexually. It is entirely unfounded and presumptuous to think that of course, but I think it is more common than people would let on and perhaps people, who may feverishly state that they are genuinely not bisexual are afraid of another man seeing him and just being so overwhelmed by his manly gorgeousness that he cannot help but bend him over and wazzock him up the chuff without so much as a "hello ducky!"
Whether this says more about them and their insecurities than the other couple, is of course a matter for conjecture (although not much, the idea is frankly laughable and if you genuinely believe then you need help). Or indeed whether it says more about the 'tolerant and understanding' nature of swingers as a whole is another matter.
I'm not bi. I don't know why. I like sex in all its forms and I like seeing Mrs R with another man, but I have no desire to join in with him in a sexual way in any circumstances. Does this make me a bi-voyeur? Not really, because my pleasure comes from seeing the pleasure Mrs R gives and receives and as callous as it sounds, the joy of the chap is a secondary or even tertiary concern to me.
However I am not bi-phobic. If another mans cock was to touch me, I wouldn't scream and leap away as if scalded, or grab the wine cork and hammer it home with a mallet. I certainly do not think I would act upon it in any way, but as I've never been in that situation, I can not say for certain.
I must admit, I am yearning for the return of gay or bi men in here. It would make a refreshing change from the overblown scent of self-righteous, pompous, indignantly sarcastic, testosterone (wrapped up in the form of utterly juvenile and puerile machismo), that has littered the place on occasion of late. In my humble view.
That, to me leaves a far more bitter taste in my mouth than any bisexual man could muster (and yes, feel free to enjoy the double-entendre).
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We all already know the answers to this, there are two reasons

We do dunno
Quote by sexoholics
1)Some men don’t want to admit being bi for fear of reprisals, and most can understand this, these same men will tell you privately.
2)Some men just cannot respect other peoples choices, so they’ll say anything just to get a meet, and will continue to lie that they’re straight, even to people who state clearly they don’t want to meet bisexual men.

I am so glad you told me there are only two reasons :thumbup:
Quote by noladreams
Their reasons vary (because I have asked a few of them) and range from the fact that they are pretty much straight and occasionally dabble in the bi arena but feel that 'bi-curious' is not accurate but neither is 'bisexual'. (Actually that is very similar to the way I feel about labelling myself on here, but then I am a girl so I am allowed to dip in and out of sexual identities aren't I?! wink)
Sometimes they are just exploring bi sex and so have stuck with straight, sometimes they openly admit that they are uncomfortable with the label bisexual.
Other times they are on the site primarly to meet females so they keep straight as a default.
What I am trying to inarticulately say is that there are no doubt a myriad reasons.

Nola, you are obviously wrong rolleyes
Feel free to tell of others that cannot fit into the two i mentioned in some way.