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Frekle safe words are pretty common in all forms of bondage play, so properly managed you should be safe from actions you don't want.
As for gloves, well I use them when working, and if you had an injury on your hand all the condoms in the world would be a waste of time. Currently I am nursing some cuts courtesy of the family bunny (who needed to go to the vet and has sharp claws). Now if I were playing gloves would be a requirement if I wanted my fingers inside, or even near females damp bis.
Aids and hep b, c etc are transmitted through body fluids. A cut on my hand in somewhere warm may well open up, causing a direct exchange of fluids. Medics don't wear gloves just to protect themselves, but also those they are treating. So while everyone playing hopefully knows they are clear of STD's, don't rule out gloves or Dental dams. Yes they detract, you should try bareback re a condom, but they should not be unreasonable in casual situations,,, besides they can be kinky...
TnH I know about 'safe words'; what made me :shock: was the fact that Steph said that they leave a breathing hole. That doesn't necessarily mean they can talk, it might be a hole where the nose is. So I wondered how they would signal that they wanted to stop, that's all. Steph did answer that it's done by blink signals so I assume that the hole isn't over the mouth.
Thanks for answering anyway biggrin
I personally prefer without, feels much better and is much more intimate, the last thing you want to do whilst your in the heat of passion is STOP and put a condom on! Nah not for me, just as long as the girl is clean im sleeping with that is!!
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just as long as the girl is clean im sleeping with that is!!

And how would the girl know YOUR clean? Just because you say so?
to shay! thats a very good point, but i know im clean, and if i think the woman im about to sleep with has slept around then of course il wear something, but every now and then ive been with a couple were the woman prefers to do it without a condom, and when i look around the room and clearly see she's just a happily married woman with a husband and kids, i dont mind doing it unprotected if ive known them for a while
always protected only way to go.
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but every now and then ive been with a couple were the woman prefers to do it without a condom, and when i look around the room and clearly see she's just a happily married woman with a husband and kids, i dont mind doing it unprotected if ive known them for a while

I admire your optimism. If she did it without a condom with you then she probably did it without a condom with others. That means you are effectively going bareback with all their previous partners and their partners partners too. STIs do not neccessarily show symptoms so the only way you have of knowing for sure whether you, or anyone else, is clear is if there has been a visit to a GUM clinic and no sexual contact since. (and no unprotected sex for 6 months prior to the test in the case of AIDS)
Playing with people outside of a monogamous relationship is clearly risky. It is for everyone to find their own acceptable level of risk and take the relevant precautions.
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to shay! thats a very good point, but i know im clean, and if i think the woman im about to sleep with has slept around then of course il wear something, but every now and then ive been with a couple were the woman prefers to do it without a condom, and when i look around the room and clearly see she's just a happily married woman with a husband and kids, i dont mind doing it unprotected if ive known them for a while

Ahhhhhhhh, so if she's tidied up a bit, hoovered and dusted, she must be free of any STIs ? confused
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I admire your optimism. If she did it without a condom with you then she probably did it without a condom with others. That means you are effectively going bareback with all their previous partners and their partners partners too. STIs do not neccessarily show symptoms so the only way you have of knowing for sure whether you, or anyone else, is clear is if there has been a visit to a GUM clinic and no sexual contact since. (and no unprotected sex for 6 months prior to the test in the case of AIDS)
Playing with people outside of a monogamous relationship is clearly risky. It is for everyone to find their own acceptable level of risk and take the relevant precautions.

What they said :!:
I totally understand the risks, and when i said i know for a fact that im clean thats exactly what i meant, i have visited the GU clinic to make sure of that, and its actually 3months before HIV is detectable in the body. Unfortunately i think you've tried to judge me before you actually know me, im not just out shagging anything that moves. I like to meet people, get to know them and build a friendship and trust between us all and that has worked out well so far. Maybe ive been lucky in that department and met the right people and you on the other hand have welcomed every tom dick and harry and come across afew dodgy ones, (perhaps you should take a leaf out of my book)!
On a more serious note i very rarely go unprotected and am aware of the risks!!
If that was said in the first post.. I don't think so many of us would have jumped on and posted back at you... Instead.. In the first post you just said if she was clean.. and in the second you just looked around the room... confused:
Ok cool, im new to all this so apologies if i just jumped into the conversation feet first without explaining myself properly.
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Ok cool, im new to all this so apologies if i just jumped into the conversation feet first without explaining myself properly.

Maybe you'd like to explain properly why you said this then:
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Maybe ive been lucky in that department and met the right people and you on the other hand have welcomed every tom dick and harry and come across afew dodgy ones, (perhaps you should take a leaf out of my book)!
Talk about stirring the pot!! I was trying to add alittle humour to a serious conversation, no malice intended.
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Talk about stirring the pot!! I was trying to add alittle humour to a serious conversation, no malice intended.

biggrin cool.
Im glad you approve smile
Mmmmmmmmm.....just to add something else for you to ponder about whilst casting aside the trusty condom....whether you and she come with medical test certificates and lurgy free testimony (!!!!)......have you ever stopped to think that maybe you could be the unwitting sperm donor to a possible patter of tiny feet which could ultimately cause far more problems and heartache for the future than a STI possibly could?Think carefully!!
As to the original post.....yes I feel that sometimes safe sex can appear to be taken to an extreme,but as others have already far more eloquently said,its up to the individuals involved as to how far you wish to take though I think the example you quoted does appear very extreme if not a little paranoid!!Or maybe just really,really kinky!! LOL
Luv Cuddles xxxx
.....just so long as it's sex
I will just use condoms i think, anything else is just going too far.
I would feel like i was going into an operating theatre dressed up
like that lol.
lisamarie
I think its always safer to use condoms, for the safety of both parties
]Having sexual relations with strangers is risky, period, but then, having sex with your partner is risky, because you never know where they have been : going to work, to the supermarket, girlie night out, mens night out : shall I go on ???
Quote by O. K."

Its ok, I can read it now!
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I will just use condoms i think, anything else is just going too far.
I would feel like i was going into an operating theatre dressed up
like that lol.
lisamarie

Are you a nurse by any chance Lisa ? lol Seriously though, I think we're all better off wanking ourselves silly !
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Having sexual relations with strangers is risky, period, but then, having sex with your partner is risky, because you never know where they have been : going to work, to the supermarket, girlie night out, mens night out : shall I go on ???

You know where they've been if you're in a secure relationship where they can tell you the truth about where they've been. If you're not in that secure a relationship, you might even be fucking about behind your partner's back anyway, so they don't know either. I remember you starting a thread some time ago, in which you said you preferred not to use condoms.
PS. OK, when you post in those very bright colours it makes your posts very difficult to read without actually quoting, in order to see it in black.
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I know its each to their own etc but i was just wondering how far people do actually go to protect themselves and is this normal and its just me thats not upto date confused

As you say, each to their own. As long as everyone's happy with the arrangements, no problems.
Compatibility is the key: Why worry about people who are doing things that don't appeal to you? Concentrate on the ones who like what you like. biggrin
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I was just wondering people opinion on this
Right i know people say safe sex if a must and ok its fair comment if u value your health but can u over do it? i was just reading a thread in the lets meet up forum and after reading the first message had a look at the couples add, now on their add it says safe sex is a must condoms, dental dams and gloves must be warn b4 any contact, or words to that effect
My question is can u over do it with safe sex?
If u felt the need to wear gloves b4 u touched anyone would u still carry on swinging and indeed if u met a couple and they covered u with a dental dam and put gloves on b4 they touched u would u not feel insutled?
I know its each to their own etc but i was just wondering how far people do actually go to protect themselves and is this normal and its just me thats not upto date confused

It's not you NN, some of these ads are a bit OTT I must confess....
Tell you what, instead of having any kind of contact, why not just wrap yourself up in a large rubber condom and roll around the bed in orgasmic ecstacy a la 'Naked Gun'!! biggrin
That said however, if some people demand high levels of protection then that's their perogative. It's a free country we live in after all.