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Sex God
Seems to me that we are all missing the point here, unless my glasses slipped while reading the thread 
Isn't it a strange coincidence that all these hike are suddenly coming out of the woodwork just as the new TRIDENT revamp is being proposed ?
Just a thought.
If its to pay for that I’m all in favour, I’ll pay it NP
If it’s to fund more and more ways of turning this country into more of a “Big Brother” Police state than it already is, sorry, not playing, put the cuffs on.
:shock:
Isn't it a strange coincidence that all these hike are suddenly coming out of the woodwork just as the new TRIDENT revamp is being proposed ?
Just a thought.
If its to pay for that I’m all in favour, I’ll pay it NP
If it’s to fund more and more ways of turning this country into more of a “Big Brother” Police state than it already is, sorry, not playing, put the cuffs on.
:shock:
Sex God
Quote by splendid33
Its a fukin liberty...........
Trying to make out he is penalising those driving "Gas Guzzlers"
Wasnt that what the massive hike in road tax was for ????
B:x :x :x :x d goverment
and those of us with lovely economical cars...
:lol:But it wouldnt pull my caravan and it would overheat big time if you tried
Sexpert
The plan is (evidently) to use the revenue to establish the UK as a world leader in "Green Fuel" technology, so in a decade or two's time we have a product/area that is valuable to the planet and will keep us lving to the standard we have become accustomed. As a "service" country we are dead in the water with current global trends, as we are as a "manufacturing" country. We simply can't compete. The idea of saving the planet AND using the revenue to create a future worthwhile market is actually not such a bad one on reflection.
Quote by Mallock2006
Its a fukin liberty...........
Trying to make out he is penalising those driving "Gas Guzzlers"
Wasnt that what the massive hike in road tax was for ????
B
and those of us with lovely economical cars...
:lol:But it wouldnt pull my caravan and it would overheat big time if you tried
so buy a tent
I queue last night for 30mins to get some diesel....
Well I was down to an empty tank so had to do it.
While the payment was going through the guy at the till said... you must be one of the only people here who has had a full tank, apparently most people were paying between £10 and £20 for thier petrol, so where only filling up 1/2 a tank.
The mileage allowance is 40p a mile for the first 10k then 25p a mile for any further mileage. This hasn't changed for the past 4 years that I know off but yet, the cost of running a car has increased dramatically.
I have nothing againist public transport and would use it, if it was reliable and ecomonical. Where I used to live I worked out it was about 50p a day cheaper to drive to work than to get the train, that included my diesel, road tax and insurance....
anyway my little bit over....
Well I was down to an empty tank so had to do it.
While the payment was going through the guy at the till said... you must be one of the only people here who has had a full tank, apparently most people were paying between £10 and £20 for thier petrol, so where only filling up 1/2 a tank.
The mileage allowance is 40p a mile for the first 10k then 25p a mile for any further mileage. This hasn't changed for the past 4 years that I know off but yet, the cost of running a car has increased dramatically.
I have nothing againist public transport and would use it, if it was reliable and ecomonical. Where I used to live I worked out it was about 50p a day cheaper to drive to work than to get the train, that included my diesel, road tax and insurance....
anyway my little bit over....
Quote by SteveClarke
Surely making car travel prohibitively expensive is in and of itself a "green" initiative, regardless of where the revenue goes?
Don't agree, for a start we'll all buy own brand beans, dump heinz, and continue to drive. Gordon knows pricing freedom is a good deal, we may keep the cars longer, (slightly green), or run smaller engines, (slightly green if we own them already), but get us off the road, NO WAY.
Spend 100m on alternative fuels research, hydrogen fuel cells in particular, and then he would have some credentials.
Actually I don't even understand why fuel through most of Europe is 75% of the cost here right now, in the US cheaper still, and in Israel, Russia and thrid world countries still peanuts. High fuel costs just make us uncompetitive. I think it's what he does with the tax revenues, and in that he's been a complete non starter. For Gordon it was, is and will be ABOUT THE MONEY AND THE POWER, fuck the global warming, he won't be in office.
Actually I'm a conservative by nature, but I don't see them being any better unless there's clearly a vote in it. They're all on the greasy pole, none are there except for wealth and power, sad really.
Sex God
Ffs people get a grip on reality.
There are plenty of studies out there that result in showing that even if we took every car in the uk off the road completely, it would make about 0.7% impact on global co2 emissions, whoopee doo
There is one reason, and one reason only why we pay some of the highest fuel prices in the world, “revenue”
Just think about it logically a minute, where else is any government going to get its money from? Hike up income tax and watch the backlash. Hike up council tax any further and put a third of the population into destitution. Cut services much further and have no chance of winning any election. So where do you go from there?
The motorist, an easy soft target that they can just about justify hitting, and hitting hard using the environmental bullshit that we all swallow.
If they were really concerned about ‘green’ issues they would be investing far more in renewable energy, micro renewables (like giving home owners 100% discounts on home solar and wind generation), lean burn engines (some of which are capable of 300 mpg but have been shelved to appease the oil conglomerates and keep tax revenues up) fission, waste energy exchangers, energy and recourse loss reduction, public transport, clean burn and alternative fuels, the list goes on.
If all the above where implemented globally, it would result in a stonking 60+% in the reduction of human environmental impact on the planet.
Makes the piddley 0.7% the poor motorist contributes look a bit silly really.
IMHO
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There are plenty of studies out there that result in showing that even if we took every car in the uk off the road completely, it would make about 0.7% impact on global co2 emissions, whoopee doo
There is one reason, and one reason only why we pay some of the highest fuel prices in the world, “revenue”
Just think about it logically a minute, where else is any government going to get its money from? Hike up income tax and watch the backlash. Hike up council tax any further and put a third of the population into destitution. Cut services much further and have no chance of winning any election. So where do you go from there?
The motorist, an easy soft target that they can just about justify hitting, and hitting hard using the environmental bullshit that we all swallow.
If they were really concerned about ‘green’ issues they would be investing far more in renewable energy, micro renewables (like giving home owners 100% discounts on home solar and wind generation), lean burn engines (some of which are capable of 300 mpg but have been shelved to appease the oil conglomerates and keep tax revenues up) fission, waste energy exchangers, energy and recourse loss reduction, public transport, clean burn and alternative fuels, the list goes on.
If all the above where implemented globally, it would result in a stonking 60+% in the reduction of human environmental impact on the planet.
Makes the piddley 0.7% the poor motorist contributes look a bit silly really.
IMHO
All views expressed are those of the poster who takes no responsibility for them as he has been certified as insane
Quote by Darkfire
I've just queued for 25 minutes to get petrol
well that should save them nearly 30p for about 20 litres
at the moment i can get petrol for about ......only a few months ago petrol nearly topped a pound because of israel and lebanon,Gordon Brown hasn't raised duty on petrol for over a year....so i can live with a increase instead of the 15p we got not long ago.
Sex God
Quote by Pete_sw
The motorist, an easy soft target that they can just about justify hitting, and hitting hard using the environmental bullshit that we all swallow.
And the motorist had better brace themselves for the massive increases to come......Especially when revenue from tobacco is lost ......
Quote by Mr-Powers
Gordon Brown hasn't raised duty on petrol for over a year....
I'm sorry but was that a litre increase on September 1 a figment of my imagination?
September 1st?......i've only seen petrol prices drop in my area.....so this increase i must have overlooked.
That increase was in the March budget this year though I agree the fuel has been dropping in price recently though this seems to be more of a price war between companies and supermarkets.
I've seen the price of fuel this year go up and down like a hooker's drawers
though it never seems to go down by as much as it goes up 
Warming the Bed
i say blox to paying the tax over here
we love forieng lorry drivers they sell deisel so very cheap lol and one of the local super markets do a very nice cheap veggie oil to mix with it so it gets down to about 40p a litre will i change and pay british tax for fuel (take a guess) as long as we have friends who drive abroad no we wont
we love forieng lorry drivers they sell deisel so very cheap lol and one of the local super markets do a very nice cheap veggie oil to mix with it so it gets down to about 40p a litre will i change and pay british tax for fuel (take a guess) as long as we have friends who drive abroad no we wont
Sex God
Quote by ian_and_jane
i say blox to paying the tax over here
we love forieng lorry drivers they sell deisel so very cheap lol and one of the local super markets do a very nice cheap veggie oil to mix with it so it gets down to about 40p a litre will i change and pay british tax for fuel (take a guess) as long as we have friends who drive abroad no we wont
Well said :thumbup:
come the revolution we'll have em all against the wall ..................... :shock: now there’s a thought :rascal:
One of the more powerful lobbies is the boating fraternity. I heard today that HMG is going to make it illegal to use red deisel in boats ffs. That will put up the cost of running a boat on the Broads by a massive amount - just when the Broads Authority has itself put up the waterway Licence fee to cover "green issues".
No doubt the unemployment level will be reduced once again at the tax payers cost as Quango's and other Agencies employ a whole army of people to go check on boats to make sure no-one is using red.
In the meanwhile, Tony Bliar jets off to the States for a 10 minute photo call with El Presidenti Flush at our expense to aid his failing administration. Hasn't he heard of Video Conferencing and Diplomatic Embassadors?
No doubt the unemployment level will be reduced once again at the tax payers cost as Quango's and other Agencies employ a whole army of people to go check on boats to make sure no-one is using red.
In the meanwhile, Tony Bliar jets off to the States for a 10 minute photo call with El Presidenti Flush at our expense to aid his failing administration. Hasn't he heard of Video Conferencing and Diplomatic Embassadors?
Quote by GnV
One of the more powerful lobbies is the boating fraternity. I heard today that HMG is going to make it illegal to use red deisel in boats ffs. That will put up the cost of running a boat on the Broads by a massive amount - just when the Broads Authority has itself put up the waterway Licence fee to cover "green issues".
No doubt the unemployment level will be reduced once again at the tax payers cost as Quango's and other Agencies employ a whole army of people to go check on boats to make sure no-one is using red.
In the meanwhile, Tony Bliar jets off to the States for a 10 minute photo call with El Presidenti Flush at our expense to aid his failing administration. Hasn't he heard of Video Conferencing and Diplomatic Embassadors?
So Mr Browns now hit my car and now me boat - ( How does the old F@&KER sleep at night, probably with one eye open all night ) what makes me laugh the Britishwaterways crafts kick out more CO2 ( shit ) than my boat, and mine runs on 4star - do you have this feelin folks that the ships sinking !!!!
Sex God
The Gov. says its raising tax on fuel because the climate change is the most pressing problem in the world.
No it isn't, at least not to MPs. The most pressing problem for MPs is to get re-elected. So as we had an election May 05 that means that the next election is probably between 30 and 36 months away.
So what Gordon is doing now is getting all the nasty tax rises out of the way, before an election is near. Also, as the Dear Leader Tony will be gone, he can be blamed for lots of nasty stuff and Gordon can say, "nowt to do with me, honest, it was Tony what did it"
So brace yourselves for more tax hikes for about the next 18 / 24 months before you might see some tax reductions before the next election.
John & Shel
No it isn't, at least not to MPs. The most pressing problem for MPs is to get re-elected. So as we had an election May 05 that means that the next election is probably between 30 and 36 months away.
So what Gordon is doing now is getting all the nasty tax rises out of the way, before an election is near. Also, as the Dear Leader Tony will be gone, he can be blamed for lots of nasty stuff and Gordon can say, "nowt to do with me, honest, it was Tony what did it"
So brace yourselves for more tax hikes for about the next 18 / 24 months before you might see some tax reductions before the next election.
John & Shel
