i thought this was one of the happy birthday threads for Helen...back to topic,
however defined simply as non_consensual sex is the most complex to determine,it veries in every merits,despite a no being a no,many women are not a aware they've been 've also seen laws being reviewed nearly every two years to cope with its diverse complexity,so i totally disagree with Dame Helen because her original statement was very contradicting,she stated that she was a victim of yet claim that Mike Tyson was wrongly accussed of ...we cant have a blanket law on all cases must be determined at their own merits to defend both victims and ones falsely accussed of ...well am of to walk my cat ill narrate to you the guy who was cleared of a woman while wearing a condom
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Helen Mirren … right or wrong?
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My take-
four years ago, I went on board the ship t …
Thanks very much for this post Winchwench, I'm glad you came out of it in one piece. Your comments highlights what Helen Mirren was saying about whether things like this should go to court or not as many such cases have. It also highlights what I was trying to say, as well as Anne Widdecombe, about responsiblity and that one's actions, past and/or present, can "inadvertently contributed to the situation".
It was very brave of you to submit your post, but thank you very much for your contribution, and once again I'm glad your came out of it in one piece.
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aaw man can I have atoo??? perhaps a 3sum?? :grin:
3sum ya dirty minx... when and where :rascal:
whenever we can turn Winchy! :rascal:
Ooh Winchy, where are ya - we have got a big suprise for you!!!
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aaw man can I have a
3sum ya dirty minx... when and where :rascal:
whenever we can turn Winchy! :rascal:
Ooh Winchy, where are ya - we have got a big suprise for you!!!
I'm hiding! :scared:
Although if you try turning someone who's already turned Mar- I'll be dizzy!
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She has already turned, our job just got a heck of alot easier :lol2:
Quote by Misskitty_2008
Keeno, I'm wondering why no-one has responded to my previous comment... this has actually happened to me.. yet no responses.....
I have just read this thread after spending a few days away from the forums (apart from a quick peep every now and again) and I have read through this thread, and Im sorry but I felt the need to comment on this post.
Im really sorry Miss Kitty, but I have always had the greatest respect for you as a poster, you know that, but this post, at worst appalling, and at best a bad lack of judgement. This was a thread about weather Ms Mirrens comments were right or wrong, not a place to almost demand sympathy for things that have happened to us.
Every reader who read that post may well have though 'oh shit how terrible' or aww thats such a shame', but didnt feel the need to comment on thread about it. Many many posts get lost, overlooked and ignored in this forum every day, it happens.
We all have things that happen to us that we would like sympathy for, the forum is not a place for that, unless its in jest.
I apologise wholeheartedly for singling out a particular post or poster, because its not something I would normally do, I generally like to keep the forums as a happy place, but this post has really got my dander up, and I just felt i needed to voice my opinion on it.
Im sorry that im not in the best frame of mind today, and am truly sorry if I have offended anyone with my post (I will probably be flamed or banned by tomorrow.
Again....im sorry Miss Kitty if it seems I am picking on you, i am not....just that one particular post is all
Hi Mrs B, I understand where you are coming from... but I did post something this morning in response to other people who had voiced the same thing as yourself.... I know you're not picking on me, you are just putting your point across x
I in no way wanted sympathy -and I didn't expect any either... I just wanted to put across my point and hope that some would reply to me - I understand that some that have experienced this dreadful thing would not want to talk about it, and I totally respect that. I myself kept it quiet for years... I respect all the opinions of the other posters, and hope they will respect what I post too.
I hope you have a good evening Mrs B - for you xxxx
I have just read this thread after spending a few days away from the forums (apart from a quick peep every now and again) and I have read through this thread, and Im sorry but I felt the need to comment on this post.
Im really sorry Miss Kitty, but I have always had the greatest respect for you as a poster, you know that, but this post, at worst appalling, and at best a bad lack of judgement. This was a thread about weather Ms Mirrens comments were right or wrong, not a place to almost demand sympathy for things that have happened to us.
Every reader who read that post may well have though 'oh shit how terrible' or aww thats such a shame', but didnt feel the need to comment on thread about it. Many many posts get lost, overlooked and ignored in this forum every day, it happens.
We all have things that happen to us that we would like sympathy for, the forum is not a place for that, unless its in jest.
I apologise wholeheartedly for singling out a particular post or poster, because its not something I would normally do, I generally like to keep the forums as a happy place, but this post has really got my dander up, and I just felt i needed to voice my opinion on it.
Im sorry that im not in the best frame of mind today, and am truly sorry if I have offended anyone with my post (I will probably be flamed or banned by tomorrow.
Again....im sorry Miss Kitty if it seems I am picking on you, i am not....just that one particular post is all
I in no way wanted sympathy -and I didn't expect any either... I just wanted to put across my point and hope that some would reply to me - I understand that some that have experienced this dreadful thing would not want to talk about it, and I totally respect that. I myself kept it quiet for years... I respect all the opinions of the other posters, and hope they will respect what I post too.
I hope you have a good evening Mrs B -
for you xxxxQuote by Bonedigger
Keeno, I'm wondering why no-one has responded to my previous comment... this has actually happened to me.. yet no responses.....
I have just read this thread after spending a few days away from the forums (apart from a quick peep every now and again) and I have read through this thread, and Im sorry but I felt the need to comment on this post.
Im really sorry Miss Kitty, but I have always had the greatest respect for you as a poster, you know that, but this post, at worst appalling, and at best a bad lack of judgement. This was a thread about weather Ms Mirrens comments were right or wrong, not a place to almost demand sympathy for things that have happened to us.
Every reader who read that post may well have though 'oh shit how terrible' or aww thats such a shame', but didnt feel the need to comment on thread about it. Many many posts get lost, overlooked and ignored in this forum every day, it happens.
We all have things that happen to us that we would like sympathy for, the forum is not a place for that, unless its in jest.
I apologise wholeheartedly for singling out a particular post or poster, because its not something I would normally do, I generally like to keep the forums as a happy place, but this post has really got my dander up, and I just felt i needed to voice my opinion on it.
Im sorry that im not in the best frame of mind today, and am truly sorry if I have offended anyone with my post (I will probably be flamed or banned by tomorrow.
Again....im sorry Miss Kitty if it seems I am picking on you, i am not....just that one particular post is all
Quote by Misskitty_2008
Hi Mrs B, I understand where you are coming from... but I did post something this morning in response to other people who had voiced the same thing as yourself.... I know you're not picking on me, you are just putting your point across x
I in no way wanted sympathy -and I didn't expect any either... I just wanted to put across my point and hope that some would reply to me - I understand that some that have experienced this dreadful thing would not want to talk about it, and I totally respect that. I myself kept it quiet for years... I respect all the opinions of the other posters, and hope they will respect what I post too.
I hope you have a good evening Mrs B -
Keeno, I'm wondering why no-one has responded to my previous comment... this has actually happened to me.. yet no responses.....
I have just read this thread after spending a few days away from the forums (apart from a quick peep every now and again) and I have read through this thread, and Im sorry but I felt the need to comment on this post.
Im really sorry Miss Kitty, but I have always had the greatest respect for you as a poster, you know that, but this post, at worst appalling, and at best a bad lack of judgement. This was a thread about weather Ms Mirrens comments were right or wrong, not a place to almost demand sympathy for things that have happened to us.
Every reader who read that post may well have though 'oh shit how terrible' or aww thats such a shame', but didnt feel the need to comment on thread about it. Many many posts get lost, overlooked and ignored in this forum every day, it happens.
We all have things that happen to us that we would like sympathy for, the forum is not a place for that, unless its in jest.
I apologise wholeheartedly for singling out a particular post or poster, because its not something I would normally do, I generally like to keep the forums as a happy place, but this post has really got my dander up, and I just felt i needed to voice my opinion on it.
Im sorry that im not in the best frame of mind today, and am truly sorry if I have offended anyone with my post (I will probably be flamed or banned by tomorrow.
Again....im sorry Miss Kitty if it seems I am picking on you, i am not....just that one particular post is all
hey miss_ktty please dont feel ignored,but prephaps if you did explain more what happened or if you think it was a we might respond to it,but just saying you were , however dreadful doesnt command any respond according to the thread!
I did say what happened on page 2 of the thread... but there has been a lot of posts since!
I have just read this thread after spending a few days away from the forums (apart from a quick peep every now and again) and I have read through this thread, and Im sorry but I felt the need to comment on this post.
Im really sorry Miss Kitty, but I have always had the greatest respect for you as a poster, you know that, but this post, at worst appalling, and at best a bad lack of judgement. This was a thread about weather Ms Mirrens comments were right or wrong, not a place to almost demand sympathy for things that have happened to us.
Every reader who read that post may well have though 'oh shit how terrible' or aww thats such a shame', but didnt feel the need to comment on thread about it. Many many posts get lost, overlooked and ignored in this forum every day, it happens.
We all have things that happen to us that we would like sympathy for, the forum is not a place for that, unless its in jest.
I apologise wholeheartedly for singling out a particular post or poster, because its not something I would normally do, I generally like to keep the forums as a happy place, but this post has really got my dander up, and I just felt i needed to voice my opinion on it.
Im sorry that im not in the best frame of mind today, and am truly sorry if I have offended anyone with my post (I will probably be flamed or banned by tomorrow.
Again....im sorry Miss Kitty if it seems I am picking on you, i am not....just that one particular post is all
hey miss_ktty please dont feel ignored,but prephaps if you did explain more what happened or if you think it was a we might respond to it,but just saying you were , however dreadful doesnt command any respond according to the thread!
Quote by Phuckers
Hi Mrs B, I understand where you are coming from... but I did post something this morning in response to other people who had voiced the same thing as yourself.... I know you're not picking on me, you are just putting your point across x
I in no way wanted sympathy -and I didn't expect any either... I just wanted to put across my point and hope that some would reply to me - I understand that some that have experienced this dreadful thing would not want to talk about it, and I totally respect that. I myself kept it quiet for years... I respect all the opinions of the other posters, and hope they will respect what I post too.
I hope you have a good evening Mrs B -
Keeno, I'm wondering why no-one has responded to my previous comment... this has actually happened to me.. yet no responses.....
I have just read this thread after spending a few days away from the forums (apart from a quick peep every now and again) and I have read through this thread, and Im sorry but I felt the need to comment on this post.
Im really sorry Miss Kitty, but I have always had the greatest respect for you as a poster, you know that, but this post, at worst appalling, and at best a bad lack of judgement. This was a thread about weather Ms Mirrens comments were right or wrong, not a place to almost demand sympathy for things that have happened to us.
Every reader who read that post may well have though 'oh shit how terrible' or aww thats such a shame', but didnt feel the need to comment on thread about it. Many many posts get lost, overlooked and ignored in this forum every day, it happens.
We all have things that happen to us that we would like sympathy for, the forum is not a place for that, unless its in jest.
I apologise wholeheartedly for singling out a particular post or poster, because its not something I would normally do, I generally like to keep the forums as a happy place, but this post has really got my dander up, and I just felt i needed to voice my opinion on it.
Im sorry that im not in the best frame of mind today, and am truly sorry if I have offended anyone with my post (I will probably be flamed or banned by tomorrow.
Again....im sorry Miss Kitty if it seems I am picking on you, i am not....just that one particular post is all
hey miss_ktty please dont feel ignored,but prephaps if you did explain more what happened or if you think it was a we might respond to it,but just saying you were , however dreadful doesnt command any respond according to the thread!
Miss K, in my utterly honest opinion- though not wanting to detract from the thread- there could be 1001 reasons people chose not to respond to what you wrote. Your response to the lack of reaction came across as a little desperate imho.
Sometimes you write something you think is important, funny, worthy of merit etc, and it gets overloooked/ignored. That's life. It's the way a forum works. Who am I to question the motives of people who fail to notice my genius? If I did that, it would end up with me flouncing all the time.
Sometimes you write something you think is important, funny, worthy of merit etc, and it gets overloooked/ignored. That's life. It's the way a forum works. Who am I to question the motives of people who fail to notice my genius? If I did that, it would end up with me flouncing all the time.
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Quote by Bonediggerwho said that...... did anyone hear someone speak?? :giggle:
Never heard noffink!
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Never heard noffink!
Watch it, you two. :dry:
God.
Quote by Misskitty_2008
I did say what happened on page 2 of the thread... but there has been a lot of posts since!
What do you want us to say?
Its bad? ..... IT IS
We are sorry for you? .......... WE ARE
It shouldnt have happened? .......... IT SHOULDN'T
I dont know what else to say ...... other than it's awful..... it shouldn't have happened and I am sorry.
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by bouncy332
i have extremely strong views on this no matter what the situation if a person says no wether female or male then the other party should back off no questions asked
the only time i feel women should take more responsability in such situations is where a woman goes out and gets soooo rediculously drunk they aren't in control of a situation lets just make it clear i am notsaying that she deserves to be just she should take more responsability for her own safety and not put herself in such a vunerable situation
we have brought our sons up to understand that no means no and no matter how far along things have got they should back straight off and never put any pressure on the other party and i like to think in this hopefully more enlightened age more parrents do the same
what does drive me to the verge of insanity though on this site is the way the word is bandyied around in the chat rooms like its an enjoyable passtime things like "you should b here now me" and "when are you gonna let me come and you" i'm sorry but i find this repulsive it isn't something to be joked about in my opinion and i feel it is something that should be stopped
i totally agree. Everyone should take responsibility for there own actions. My one worry is that it is ofeten very difficult to say NO. Why do some find it hard to say NO? fear of offending ? what do u think?
I have an 18 year old daughter, she is beautiful and sensible but if some one her i would do time for them.
The other thing is the use of the word in chat I HATE IT it does not turn me on, it does not excite me, it is not nice.
For what its worth I do not feel miss kitty was looking for any sympathy, just explaining what happened to her. 
I feel I have no comment on the actual thread itself as it is a very strong subject. Just thought I would say what I have, as I feel some peoples comments have been a tad unfair on her... Sorry to go away from the subject.
I feel I have no comment on the actual thread itself as it is a very strong subject. Just thought I would say what I have, as I feel some peoples comments have been a tad unfair on her... Sorry to go away from the subject.
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For what its worth I do not feel miss kitty was looking for any sympathy, just explaining what happened to her.
I feel I have no comment on the actual thread itself as it is a very strong subject. Just thought I would say what I have, as I feel some peoples comments have been a tad unfair on her... Sorry to go away from the subject.
That's the bitch about opinions, some you like some you don't. But if you want to be able to say yours then I'd suggest you don't moan about others having theirs.
Just my opinion. ;)
Quote by Peanut
For what its worth I do not feel miss kitty was looking for any sympathy, just explaining what happened to her.
I feel I have no comment on the actual thread itself as it is a very strong subject. Just thought I would say what I have, as I feel some peoples comments have been a tad unfair on her... Sorry to go away from the subject.
That's the bitch about opinions, some you like some you don't. But if you want to be able to say yours then I'd suggest you don't moan about others having theirs.
Just my opinion. ;)
As I have said before...get over yaself m8.
You seem to go out of your way to annoy most times, but ya wont get the better of me!!
If you have nothing more constructive to say, then take it from me and dont say anything.
Only my opinion of course!
Quote by keenoI wish I could have put it that simply. I fully agree.
I'm sorry but this seems very very simple to me.
A woman should be able to be alone with a man without it being tacite agreement to sex
An old lady should be able to walk down the street late at night without being mugged.
You should be able to leave your front door open without being burgaled.
You should be able to leave a pile of money in your front garden without it being stolen.
Your actions shouldn't lead to you being a victim of crime.
However, common sense has to prevail somewhere at sometime.
Quote by kentswingers777
As I have said before...get over yaself m8.
The same could be said for your goodself.
You seem to go out of your way to annoy most times, but ya wont get the better of me!!
Au contraire. I'm just pointing out the obvious... except to you maybe?
If you have nothing more constructive to say, then take it from me and dont say anything.
What makes you think it wasn't constructive?
Only my opinion of course!
Your opinion remaining sacrosanct of course, whereas others were merely being "unfair".
Quote by Peanut
As I have said before...get over yaself m8.
The same could be said for your goodself.
You seem to go out of your way to annoy most times, but ya wont get the better of me!!
Au contraire. I'm just pointing out the obvious... except to you maybe?
If you have nothing more constructive to say, then take it from me and dont say anything.
What makes you think it wasn't constructive?
Only my opinion of course!
Your opinion remaining sacrosanct of course, whereas others were merely being "unfair".
Mainly because most of what you say is not!
You go out of your way to annoy and critisise, at every opportunity, and you go about the annoying just to irritate..... my opinion.
Misskitty in my opinion was not looking for sympathy and even if she was, whats wrong with that?
The woman was and I for one cannot think of anything worse than some hairy smelly bloke forcing themselves on to you.I was just reading the thread and was not going to comment as I could not possibly imagine a much worse crime but... I felt that she was somewhat being ganged up on and I for one did not like it. People want to gang up on me then bring it on, I can handle it, but I have less time on my hands than some, as I have a business to run.
Lets just get back to the topic of the thread as was intended. If people read over the thread I think most would say there was a ganging up of sorts going on.
But go on as you always want the last word, but I am not replying to it, as this is not the right thread for a barny. :shock:
Quote by jaymar
Whether or not anyone agrees with Kent is irrelevant, it's his opinion.
Peanut, he is right, you argue the toss continually with anyone who you think you're going to get a reaction from, quite frankly it's starting to bore the ass of me.
So there
Ain't life a bitch...
...but then so is hypocrisy.
Quote by kentswingers777
For what its worth I do not feel miss kitty was looking for any sympathy, just explaining what happened to her.
I feel I have no comment on the actual thread itself as it is a very strong subject. Just thought I would say what I have, as I feel some peoples comments have been a tad unfair on her... Sorry to go away from the subject.
misskitty complained because no one reacted to her comment about being ,so everyone tried to give reasons why they didnt respond to it..is that ganging?
you've said you find the topic such a very strong subject but why do you find it necessary to scratch peanut's back,
Are you being a victim of your own principle?
Quote by Phuckers
For what its worth I do not feel miss kitty was looking for any sympathy, just explaining what happened to her.
I feel I have no comment on the actual thread itself as it is a very strong subject. Just thought I would say what I have, as I feel some peoples comments have been a tad unfair on her... Sorry to go away from the subject.
misskitty complained because no one reacted to her comment about being ,so everyone tried to give reasons why they didnt respond to it..is that ganging?
you've said you find the topic such a very strong subject but why do you find it necessary to scratch peanut's back,
Are you being a victim of your own principle?
Am not answering in this thread phuckers, it is not the right place for a barny.
I will answer it if another thread comes along though.
Quote by kentswingers777
For what its worth I do not feel miss kitty was looking for any sympathy, just explaining what happened to her.
I feel I have no comment on the actual thread itself as it is a very strong subject. Just thought I would say what I have, as I feel some peoples comments have been a tad unfair on her... Sorry to go away from the subject.
misskitty complained because no one reacted to her comment about being ,so everyone tried to give reasons why they didnt respond to it..is that ganging?
you've said you find the topic such a very strong subject but why do you find it necessary to scratch peanut's back,
Are you being a victim of your own principle?
Am not answering in this thread phuckers, it is not the right place for a barny.
I will answer it if another thread comes along though.
Thats where we go wrong carrying grudges to other irrelevant threads,we need to learn to approach new topics with fresh minds and not judgements from previous threads....i will not respond to this issue on any other thread either,so say what you've got to say here or not at all.
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