hi peeps need some advice

1 Oct 2007

Quote by hornyinslough
As welshcpl says, maybe people in the area need help in finding their voice and your hubby might want to try that method instead. How about asking neighbours to come to a meeting to discuss whats happened because no doubt there'll be others who have had the same things done could be helpful. Get the MP involved, complain about what's happened and the lack of action from the plods. Everyone is accountable for their behaviour - the twats who do this, the plods who do fuck all...and your hubby for dealing with it the way he has. Maybe the threats are the only language they understand...or maybe it perpetuates the cycle and moves you further away from resolution...

not every one wants to step forward, i have been asked to speak at residents meetings because and i quote " you're a gobby cow and you tell it as it is" lmao but this doesnt always work. most ppl cant be arsed to leave the tv etc and go to a meeting to bitch about local yobs while a council/ housing ass. rep takes notes and does sod all. bring back the days when a policeman could give the idiots a good slap 'round the earhole for playing up :!:
Waiting to be flamed ........

That would be ironic but on SH it's a very real possibility. If you are flamed, or anyone else for that matter, then the flamer is showing no better ability to respond to something than what is being discussed in this whole thread. All say 'aye' if you want SH to be a flame-free zone. AYE!

AYE!!! AYE!!! AYE!!!

1 Oct 2007

Quote by Lost
You bitch fiend from hell!!!
:inlove: :love: :inlove: :love: :inlove: love you too losty, my likkle howler, you say the sweetest things :inlove: :love: :inlove: :love: :inlove:
But enough of the flattery :lol2:

My advice is to maybe ask the 'sisters of the merciless couldren' to get out the voodoo dolls and start sticking them pins in 22's It might not be the greatest of advice granted but I think it best not to rub your nose in stuff when he's pissed off.
I hope you get some satisfaction and if theres anything i can do - but lets face it. It will be pretty little :lol: but i'd do it

1 Oct 2007

Quote by deancannock
Violence breeds violence.....so I can in no way condone what he is saying or threatning to do. the person that has done the orginal crime is scum..and do you really think they are bothered by this letter ? In fact think, they would actually take pleasure from the fact they have got to you. We should all have the opportunity to protect our selves, out loved ones and our property....but what you are suggesting is revenge.
In my eyes...sorry...WRONG

I agree, everyone should have the right to protect their property and our loved ones and ourselves, and you are correct, revenge will not work it'll just open up a bigger can of worms and when does it stop? when someone gets hurt or worse killed?

1 Oct 2007

Quote by Mr-Powers
because i sent out my staffy to "deal" with the "little herberts" no doubt someone will see the wrong in that as i violated the burgulars human rights or some such cr@p lol, and also because i did not condemn 22 for putting out the fliers. Oh, and because my opinions usually grate on a lot of ppls i believe in " do to others as you would have done unto you", not everyones cup of tea im sure. :wary:

well if someone was in my garden and it was dark...i'd send the dog first...its just a dogat the end of the day...and can easily be replaced...a husband/father wife/mother isn't so easy!
Thats soooo not true in our house :cry: We would be devastated if he got hurt....all of us.
I would do what I could to defend my property but I would not put ANY of my family at risk. I would still let the police deal with it wherever possible. They are trained and when needed, armed.
I know Stormy would beat the crap out of em though :twisted:

1 Oct 2007

Quote by deancannock
Violence breeds violence.....so I can in no way condone what he is saying or threatning to do. the person that has done the orginal crime is scum..and do you really think they are bothered by this letter ? In fact think, they would actually take pleasure from the fact they have got to you. We should all have the opportunity to protect our selves, out loved ones and our property....but what you are suggesting is revenge.
In my eyes...sorry...WRONG

Amen to that.....with bells on!
I can't imagine the little f***wit who did this reading the flyer and thinking.....
"Gosh, reading this has bought me to my senses and made me realise how jolly wrong I was. Henceforth, I am a reformed character and will go forthwith to apologise to the lovely people at , and offer them recompense."
I know living with this type of thing can be tough- we've been in a far, far worse situation with shotgun wielding thugs next door. But this has simply made your situation worse.

1 Oct 2007

Sadly I agree with most of what's already been said.
Not only is the tone and content of the letter potentially offensive, and to a much wider group of people than he intends, but also can be seen as an incitement to violence.
The repercussions would be counter-productive. Why? Because the letter shows intent, and therefore any action on his part would be seen as premeditated.
I agree with Freckledbird in that the letters should be recovered, and apologies made to all concerned. You have tarnished your reputation by sending this letter, but it isn't too late to make amends.
sad

1 Oct 2007

Quote by firelizard
because i sent out my staffy to "deal" with the "little herberts" no doubt someone will see the wrong in that as i violated the burgulars human rights or some such cr@p lol, and also because i did not condemn 22 for putting out the fliers. Oh, and because my opinions usually grate on a lot of ppls i believe in " do to others as you would have done unto you", not everyones cup of tea im sure. :wary:

well if someone was in my garden and it was dark...i'd send the dog first...its just a dogat the end of the day...and can easily be replaced...a husband/father wife/mother isn't so easy!
Thats soooo not true in our house :cry: We would be devastated if he got hurt....all of us.
I would do what I could to defend my property but I would not put ANY of my family at risk. I would still let the police deal with it wherever possible. They are trained and when needed, armed.
I know Stormy would beat the crap out of em though :twisted:
but the police can't be there in seconds...instinct would be to send the dog out first,if you had one!

1 Oct 2007

I know a very brave shih tzu that would be upset if it didn't get chance to be a 'gave a go hero' biggrin

1 Oct 2007

Quote by Mr-Powers
because i sent out my staffy to "deal" with the "little herberts" no doubt someone will see the wrong in that as i violated the burgulars human rights or some such cr@p lol, and also because i did not condemn 22 for putting out the fliers. Oh, and because my opinions usually grate on a lot of ppls i believe in " do to others as you would have done unto you", not everyones cup of tea im sure. :wary:

well if someone was in my garden and it was dark...i'd send the dog first...its just a dogat the end of the day...and can easily be replaced...a husband/father wife/mother isn't so easy!
Thats soooo not true in our house :cry: We would be devastated if he got hurt....all of us.
I would do what I could to defend my property but I would not put ANY of my family at risk. I would still let the police deal with it wherever possible. They are trained and when needed, armed.
I know Stormy would beat the crap out of em though :twisted:
but the police can't be there in seconds...instinct would be to send the dog out first,if you had one!
No hun we have to agree to disagree on this one. I would never and I repeat never! send my dog out in a time of danger he is part of my family and is treated with love and respect like the rest of us.
Besides he is a Husky and they are not known for being good guard dogs as they are just about the friendliest breed I've ever come across. But even if he were a rottweiler I would still not put him at risk. After all you can mend or get back property you can't mend or get back a life.
Love
Fire x

1 Oct 2007

I don't think I'd have ever sent our dog out first either - if she'd bitten a person, there would have been a chance that they (the relevant authorities) would destroy her confused

2 Oct 2007

Quote by firelizard
but the police can't be there in seconds...instinct would be to send the dog out first,if you had one!

the police took almost an hour to arrive as it wasnt considered an emergency even with 2 children in the house, and mr 04 was out 1st as he caught the theives as he was on his way to work.
No hun we have to agree to disagree on this one. I would never and I repeat never! send my dog out in a time of danger he is part of my family and is treated with love and respect like the rest of us.
anyone who knows me or my dog know that Apollo is treated as one of the family and loved and respected very much. You come across as assuming Apollo isn't, which i find rather insulting.
Besides he is a Husky and they are not known for being good guard dogs as they are just about the friendliest breed I've ever come across. But even if he were a rottweiler I would still not put him at risk. After all you can mend or get back property you can't mend or get back a life.
Love
Fire x
You don't need a large guard dog to protect you or yours, any dog with love for it's family would do it's utmost to protect them. ALL of my dogs have been brought up to be daft as a brush, Apollo being the daftest. My last dog was an alsation X king charles spaniel and if he felt me or my children were threatened by another dog / person he would protect us to the hilt, the lurcher i had before him was afraid of other dogs especialy small dogs, yet he protected me against a pit x staffy when i was pregnant with my son.
What would you rather ...... send out the dog or have to fight someone off to protect your children? I did what was instinctive in the given situation.
Is it me or is it getting a touch warm in here? :grin:

2 Oct 2007

Quote by Freckledbird
I don't think I'd have ever sent our dog out first either - if she'd bitten a person, there would have been a chance that they (the relevant authorities) would destroy her

IF you have signs up as i do stating there is a dog on the premises, and someone comes uninvited onto your property e.g a thief, you can not be prosecuted if they get bitten, as they are taking a matters into their own hands by just being there.

2 Oct 2007

Quote by welshcpl2004

Is it me or is it getting a touch warm in here? :grin:

Must be you, I'm cold dunno

2 Oct 2007

Quote by welshcpl2004
No hun we have to agree to disagree on this one. I would never and I repeat never! send my dog out in a time of danger he is part of my family and is treated with love and respect like the rest of us.
anyone who knows me or my dog know that Apollo is treated as one of the family and loved and respected very much. You come across as assuming Apollo isn't, which i find rather insulting.

Where did Fire insinuate your dog isnt part of the family dunno

From what I read she wasnt even responding to your post but was responding to Mr P so it would appear your feelings of being insulted stem from elsewhere.

2 Oct 2007

Quote by welshcpl2004

but the police can't be there in seconds...instinct would be to send the dog out first,if you had one!

the police took almost an hour to arrive as it wasnt considered an emergency even with 2 children in the house, and mr 04 was out 1st as he caught the theives as he was on his way to work.
No hun we have to agree to disagree on this one. I would never and I repeat never! send my dog out in a time of danger he is part of my family and is treated with love and respect like the rest of us.
anyone who knows me or my dog know that Apollo is treated as one of the family and loved and respected very much. You come across as assuming Apollo isn't, which i find rather insulting.
Besides he is a Husky and they are not known for being good guard dogs as they are just about the friendliest breed I've ever come across. But even if he were a rottweiler I would still not put him at risk. After all you can mend or get back property you can't mend or get back a life.
Love
Fire x
You don't need a large guard dog to protect you or yours, any dog with love for it's family would do it's utmost to protect them. ALL of my dogs have been brought up to be daft as a brush, Apollo being the daftest. My last dog was an alsation X king charles spaniel and if he felt me or my children were threatened by another dog / person he would protect us to the hilt, the lurcher i had before him was afraid of other dogs especialy small dogs, yet he protected me against a pit x staffy when i was pregnant with my son.
What would you rather ...... send out the dog or have to fight someone off to protect your children? I did what was instinctive in the given situation.
Is it me or is it getting a touch warm in here? :grin:
Welsh
First of all the quote that you have put up as mine, is not, it is Mr Powers.
Secondly I was agreeing to disagree with Mr Powers comment about "it only being a dog" not with yourself. Although it would'nt have made a blind bit of difference who said it. I still feel the same way.
Your reference to Apollo and all your other dogs did'nt make any sense to me up until 5 minutes ago when I actually read your post redface

sorry!
It seems to me by what you have said that you were waiting to get flamed for your post....I don't "do" flaming it's not nice and it's not clever. However if I have a violent disagreement on something I read I say so. Mr Powers has got used to my moaning at him by now wink

2 Oct 2007

Quote by Dawnie

Is it me or is it getting a touch warm in here? :grin:

Must be you, I'm cold dunno

Doesn't feel that warm to me either.

2 Oct 2007

Welsh couple wrote:

You don't need a large guard dog to protect you or yours, any dog with love for it's family would do it's utmost to protect them. ALL of my dogs have been brought up to be daft as a brush, Apollo being the daftest. My last dog was an alsation X king charles spaniel and if he felt me or my children were threatened by another dog / person he would protect us to the hilt, the lurcher i had before him was afraid of other dogs especialy small dogs, yet he protected me against a pit x staffy when i was pregnant with my son.

Erm, not really. Depends upon their inherent response in a fight or flight situation. Our Labrador would roll over or run away. No, actually, she would run away, then roll over.
We did have a German Shepherd (there is no such breed as an alsation BTW- this was a name dreamed up in WW2 when anything German was frowned upon) who would have defended us (especially me) to the hilt- as is their nature.
If we had a dog that was capable of defending us- it would go out first. However, it's all down to choice :thumbup:

2 Oct 2007

:hunk:
I would send my cat out.... she is a nasty piece of work and would dribble and miaow all over anyone that showed an interest in her. If she pumps she clears an area of 300 yards so my car would then be safe.
Do you know what I would really do ? I haven't a scoobies. I am not in that situation. I would probably cry and feel crap that my car was poorly and then figure out how to reduce the damage to it. But I can only guess as it isn't happening to me right here and now.
splendid

2 Oct 2007

:hunk:
I would send my cat out.... she is a nasty piece of work and would dribble and miaow all over anyone that showed an interest in her. If she pumps she clears an area of 300 yards so my car would then be safe.
Splendid

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Oh my goodness that was so funny, I wuv you Splendid!!! :rose: :giggle:

2 Oct 2007

Quote by splendid_
:hunk:
I would send my cat out.... she is a nasty piece of work and would dribble and miaow all over anyone that showed an interest in her. If she pumps she clears an area of 300 yards so my car would then be safe. Do you know what I would really do ? I haven't a scoobies. I am not in that situation. I would probably cry and feel crap that my car was poorly and then figure out how to reduce the damage to it. But I can only guess as it isn't happening to me right here and now.
splendid

Stormy wrote something outrageously funny... :evil2:
Fire made him change it … sad

2 Oct 2007

Aww, I believe you Stormy :therethere: Is that nasty Firelizard picking on you again?
I wrote something really bloody funny in the pole dancing thread- and no-one noticed it! evil

We're wasted here- shall we go & start our own comedy club instead?

2 Oct 2007

Quote by winchwench
Aww, I believe you Stormy :therethere: Is that nasty Firelizard picking on you again?
I wrote something really bloody funny in the pole dancing thread- and no-one noticed it!
We're wasted here- shall we go & start our own comedy club instead?

Sounds like a plan Winchy, I'm too good for this place rolleyes

2 Oct 2007

Quote by Freckledbird
I don't think I'd have ever sent our dog out first either - if she'd bitten a person, there would have been a chance that they (the relevant authorities) would destroy her

but what if it was a trespasser...surely the dog wouldn't be put down for that!

3 Oct 2007

Yes Mr Powers sad

unfortunately it would.
Love
Fire xxx

3 Oct 2007

We had a cat who was so vicious we put a sign on the front door saying "BEWARE OF THE CAT". People used to take it as a joke, but it wasn't as he used to wait behind the cat flap waiting for someone to unwisely deliver something through the flap .. then he would bite them. He often used to chase people and other animals off the property as he regarded it solely as his.
Onto the subject of cars being damaged when parked on the roadside. I'm wondering how many people who sustain such damage actually have a garage, but don't use it because they are too lazy or they use the garage for storage instead. We have a battery of garages behind our place .. about 14 in all, and only 2 of them actually have cars housed in them. The rest are empty or used to store things. Meanwhile the residents do put up with damage to their cars by idiots. Seems weird to me. Yes it does take more time to put the car away safely in the garage, but then again my insurance is cheaper because I do.

6 Oct 2007

well thanks guys rolleyes

Glad to see we all put our heads in the sand and hope it doesn't happen to you.
but i did at least give a warning, so now i should get a hoodie, and just go boot cars and mug peeps as i will get more support for doing that redface

Thanks to the reality brigade and support from the minority party who live in the real world, big kisses
As for the oh what er brigade if the thread was so bad , then freedom of speach is dead :cry
And i find it sad that most people find it an acceptable way of life
thank you mr sweet, has replied to the thread and now scratches his head... :cry:

6 Oct 2007

I can completely empathize with your husband doing what he did, totally understand his frustration, but I do think as someone else said, that unfortunately he may have brought "more trouble to the door" (or car)!
Although i think there were "threatening" connotations to the leaflet, it is my opinion (and one that i will stick to flamed or not because we are all entitled to them)that some people who are in the "yob culture" need to be threatened as they have no regard for the law and no respect for society
Im a citizen of this country who believes law and order and particularly justice, will inevitably NOT prevail a vast majority of the time.
Sentences for criminals are just too lenient these days and youngsters are more likely to be carrying knives around these days under their jackets than the odd sneaky can of cider.
In the estate that we used to live in a group of about half a dozen (clique time again) "hoodies" regularly started to gather around the end of our cul - de - sac near to an old couples house at the weekend and drink on the grass next to the oldies wall.
A few times we drove by on a night and saw the old guy shouting at them and them taunting him and generally being little sh*ts. Miss srne being a bit of a pacifist(correctly spelling??)wouldn't let me get out of the car and and give them a boot up the arse as she thought (as is often the case in these situations) that i'd have the law knocking on my door for trying to do the right thing.
A few months later in our local paper a picture of the old guy with a massive black eye was in and a story about how he had been punched by one of the group for confronting them and the police "wouldn't or couldn't help him" after he had called no less than 30 times in the past year.
The old fella was a bloody war veteran for God's sake trying to enjoy his last few years before checking out to see the other side. The trouble died down for a few weeks after the story but on our way out for takeaway one weekend night they were there again and I stopped the car and let 3 of them have it.
Did or do i feel guilty? Do i hell!!
Do i feel justified for acting in a violent manner? Yep
And did it help? Yeah
I will no doubt get a reprimand from some who think violence is NEVER the answer, hey i have big shoulders, i can cope with that, but after over 15 visits from the police and numerous calls to these lads houses they still continued to do this to an old fella then i think the only way these type of people will learn is by taking a page from their own book and showing them a little bit of their own medicine!!

6 Oct 2007

Quote by Sweet22couple
well thanks guys
Glad to see we all put our heads in the sand and hope it doesn't happen to you.
but i did at least give a warning, so now i should get a hoodie, and just go boot cars and mug peeps as i will get more support for doing that
I'm sure nobody wished it on you, but you might well have made the situation worse for yourself by 'warning' them. Nobody's supporting the 'hoodies' here, just pointing out that what you did was, in some people's opinion, not quite the right course of action.
Thanks to the reality brigade and support from the minority party who live in the real world, big kisses
As for the oh what er brigade if the thread was so bad , then freedom of speach is dead :cry
Actually, you asked (or Mrs Sweet did) for opinions/advice. You didn't say you wanted everyone to post and agree with you (ie support you). If you don't want varied opinions/advice, don't ask - you might hear/read something you don't like.
And i find it sad that most people find it an acceptable way of life
thank you mr sweet, has replied to the thread and now scratches his head... :cry:

Srne, what if those youths found out where you live and paid Miss Srne a visit whilst you weren't there? That would be a direct result of you 'helping' someone with whom you had no connection. He may be a war hero, but that still doesn't make going out in the street a clever thing to do - he reacted and got a beating for his trouble.
We have been on the receiving end of crap from former neighbours - the male went out of his way to be verbally abusive to me and the kids, more so when MrFB was at work. Dog shit thrown in our garden, soapy water thrown at the windows (no idea why they did that, strange folk!), trying to kick the door in when MrFB was on nights, stones thrown at the house and windows. We kept a log, got crime numbers, reported everything. MrFB was advised not to get involved so he didn't. Neighbour pushed me and got caught on CCTV - he received a caution for assault and behaved himself from then on.
We never raised a hand to him or his, ever. We won, in the end. There is no room for people taking the law into their own hands. In my opinion, anyway.

6 Oct 2007

Quote by Freckledbird
We never raised a hand to him or his, ever. We won, in the end. There is no room for people taking the law into their own hands. In my opinion, anyway.

:thumbup:
Hope things are better for you and yours now kiss

6 Oct 2007

Quote by helnheaven

We never raised a hand to him or his, ever. We won, in the end. There is no room for people taking the law into their own hands. In my opinion, anyway.

:thumbup:
Hope things are better for you and yours now kiss

They are indeed, thank you. biggrin