Satin, can I say you are a thouroughly decent guy! You made me feel so very welcome in your home on the night of the party and I felt very comfortable with you either in or out of TV mode. You looked bluddy fantastic and I assume you felt very comfortable with yourself that night. You are so fortunate to have someone like Blue who appreciates your lifestyle. You can also count on us to be right with you an give you our support.
I think we all have inner fears and insecurites which we tend to project on the outside world. We think people are talking about us. Sometimes they are, but more often they are not. We imagine all sorts of things they are saying, when infact these are just 'our' thoughts, not theirs. We tend to play over in our minds the other times we were hurt or the times people made us feel bad and all we are doing is reinforcing those negative feelings. I guess we all do this. I know I do. But we have to learn to move on and accept who were are as defined by ourselves and the people around us who do care about our well being.
Much love and respect
LC
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hi i don't think your a freak.......here is a little explanation to the word freak
Noun 1. freak - a person or animal that is markedly unusual or deformed
lusus naturae, monstrosity, monster
leviathan - the largest or most massive thing of its kind; "it was a leviathan among redwoods"; "they were assigned the leviathan of textbooks"
mutant, mutation, sport, variation - (biology) an organism that has characteristics resulting from chromosomal alteration
2. freak - someone who is so ardently devoted to something that it resembles an addiction; "a golf addict"; "a car nut"; "a news junkie"
addict, junkie, junky, nut
enthusiast, partizan, partisan - an ardent and enthusiastic supporter of some person or activity
gym rat - someone who spends all leisure time playing sports or working out in a gymnasium or health spa
Verb 1. freak - lose one's nerve; "When he saw the accident, he freaked out"
freak out, gross out
panic - be overcome by a sudden fear; "The students panicked when told that final exams were less than a week away"
goodluck and good on you mate.
dj
Noun 1. freak - a person or animal that is markedly unusual or deformed
lusus naturae, monstrosity, monster
leviathan - the largest or most massive thing of its kind; "it was a leviathan among redwoods"; "they were assigned the leviathan of textbooks"
mutant, mutation, sport, variation - (biology) an organism that has characteristics resulting from chromosomal alteration
2. freak - someone who is so ardently devoted to something that it resembles an addiction; "a golf addict"; "a car nut"; "a news junkie"
addict, junkie, junky, nut
enthusiast, partizan, partisan - an ardent and enthusiastic supporter of some person or activity
gym rat - someone who spends all leisure time playing sports or working out in a gymnasium or health spa
Verb 1. freak - lose one's nerve; "When he saw the accident, he freaked out"
freak out, gross out
panic - be overcome by a sudden fear; "The students panicked when told that final exams were less than a week away"
goodluck and good on you mate.
dj
Sex God
Satin~
Firstly, *BIG HUGS*!
Yes, you are a weirdo...just as much of the rest of us here are. It's so nice to have a place where we're all accepted for who we are without prejudice. Kudos to you for being so open about it for so long. I'm not nearly as brave as yourself, having stayed in the closet for nearly 20 years and throughout my marriage, and only re-emerged recently as bisexual (which is hard enough - I cannot even begin to imagine enduring what you've had to cope with!).
It's fine for me to say things like "as long as you're comfortable with yourself, that's all that matters" or "if people don't accept you for who you are, it's their problem", but the grim reality is that it's a spirit-crushing blow to be the target of prejudice and the senseless acts of cruelty the it incites in the ignorant. It's enough to drive you into hiding, or worse.
You're so fortunate to have such a loving and supportive partner in Blue, as I have with Vix, as that really makes all the difference in the world (so *BIG HUGS* to Blue, too!). Also, don't lose sight of the fact that you're blessed with a supportive peer group here on SH as well - you just have to read through this thread to see that shine through (and, reading through some of the responses, I'd say you're in demand, too!)!
As for being born at the wrong time, to be honest, I sometimes think that for myself as well. Back when in my "professorial" days, I used to marvel at how open the students in their late-teens & early-20s, both male & female, were becoming about their bisexuality. It certainly wasn't anything like that when I was at university, and I found myself wishing that I was a few years younger and still a student.
Just hang in there, mate, and know that you've got the support of all of us. I'm just disappointed that you're not going to make the Notts Munch, as Vix & I would love to meet you!!
~Reese!
Firstly, *BIG HUGS*!
Yes, you are a weirdo...just as much of the rest of us here are. It's so nice to have a place where we're all accepted for who we are without prejudice. Kudos to you for being so open about it for so long. I'm not nearly as brave as yourself, having stayed in the closet for nearly 20 years and throughout my marriage, and only re-emerged recently as bisexual (which is hard enough - I cannot even begin to imagine enduring what you've had to cope with!).
It's fine for me to say things like "as long as you're comfortable with yourself, that's all that matters" or "if people don't accept you for who you are, it's their problem", but the grim reality is that it's a spirit-crushing blow to be the target of prejudice and the senseless acts of cruelty the it incites in the ignorant. It's enough to drive you into hiding, or worse.
You're so fortunate to have such a loving and supportive partner in Blue, as I have with Vix, as that really makes all the difference in the world (so *BIG HUGS* to Blue, too!). Also, don't lose sight of the fact that you're blessed with a supportive peer group here on SH as well - you just have to read through this thread to see that shine through (and, reading through some of the responses, I'd say you're in demand, too!)!
As for being born at the wrong time, to be honest, I sometimes think that for myself as well. Back when in my "professorial" days, I used to marvel at how open the students in their late-teens & early-20s, both male & female, were becoming about their bisexuality. It certainly wasn't anything like that when I was at university, and I found myself wishing that I was a few years younger and still a student.
Just hang in there, mate, and know that you've got the support of all of us. I'm just disappointed that you're not going to make the Notts Munch, as Vix & I would love to meet you!!
~Reese!
All we can say is good luck to you, just be whoever you want to be, be respectful and enjoy life. After all there is enough shit in this world we all have to find ways to express ourselves.
As for the sexualness of what you do, well paul is straight, but he is always trying to get into my knickers!!!!
I would add I would love to see him dressed up like you do.
Enjoy yourself love and keep being you.
C & P
As for the sexualness of what you do, well paul is straight, but he is always trying to get into my knickers!!!!
I would add I would love to see him dressed up like you do.
Enjoy yourself love and keep being you.
C & P
Sex God
Satin, can I say you are a thouroughly decent guy! You made me feel so very welcome in your home on the night of the party and I felt very comfortable with you either in or out of TV mode. You looked bluddy fantastic and I assume you felt very comfortable with yourself that night. You are so fortunate to have someone like Blue who appreciates your lifestyle. You can also count on us to be right with you an give you our support.
I think we all have inner fears and insecurites which we tend to project on the outside world. We think people are talking about us. Sometimes they are, but more often they are not. We imagine all sorts of things they are saying, when infact these are just 'our' thoughts, not theirs. We tend to play over in our minds the other times we were hurt or the times people made us feel bad and all we are doing is reinforcing those negative feelings. I guess we all do this. I know I do. But we have to learn to move on and accept who were are as defined by ourselves and the people around us who do care about our well being.
sooooo much better than i put it! nice one LC. agree with every word there! ;)
Satin, i have some tiny idea of where you are and where you've been. not much, but i've been bullied as the local "poof" in my life. i hope you take heart from what you read here, cos from my limited POV, i believe all are heartfelt! ;)
neil x x x ;)
At least your open about who you are all those people that don't know what they are they are the Real Freaks.
People whom read Tabloid Press that's full of Sex yet have'nt got the balls ( pun
) to go futher & then be two faced abouth the subject.
Keep strong & remenber that at least you've got a Lady & I have'nt :cry: , see you at Nottingham but NO 'Kill Bill' Moves please.
Omar The Wünderhorse.
People whom read Tabloid Press that's full of Sex yet have'nt got the balls ( pun
) to go futher & then be two faced abouth the subject.Keep strong & remenber that at least you've got a Lady & I have'nt :cry: , see you at Nottingham but NO 'Kill Bill' Moves please.
Omar The Wünderhorse.
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sooooo much better than i put it! nice one LC. agree with every word there! ;)
Satin, i have some tiny idea of where you are and where you've been. not much, but i've been bullied as the local "poof" in my life. i hope you take heart from what you read here, cos from my limited POV, i believe all are heartfelt! ;)
neil x x x ;)
Cheers Neil!
Thought yours was very succinct and to the point, myself. In fact all of these replies have been quite moving! And quite a revelation to...as to how many women find xdressed guys a turn on! Just go's to show how much women value guys who are in touch with their feminine side. Now, where did I leave that skirt........ 
LC
Awwww Satin :therethere:
I certainly don't think you should consider yourself an outsider :shock: Its not the biggest kept secret in the world that I think you and Blue are just the coolest people around! :twisted: ....... you don't see how inferior I feel to you!
But this ain't about Blue, so just gonna hoof her out this post for a while :twisted:
Right, now take a look at yourself - sure you get a bit pissed off sometimes, we all do, and after what you've been through over the years it's no wonder - you really do show your strength of character by the way you deal with life. But above all that, and the person that really shines through is an amazing guy. Someone ...... omg trying to explain what you're like and just had a vision of you in yer underwear with that killer body, just how do you get a physique like that!!!!!! ......... ok, back from the Silkies page (again
), right where was I? Oh yeh, you as a person......
Someone who knows what he likes, knows who he is - takes life by the horns and runs with it. Making sure you have an absolute blast every step of the way. :twisted: What a superb way to be. Its sweet that you feel unsure of yourself on occasion - it's even sweeter to watch you as you relax and show your true personality.
On top of all that, you have a wonderful acceptance of other people ...... I still think of when I charged up to you at the NW munch and started going on and on about my 'dogging' experience the night before
You didn't stare at me, or look down on me because I was rubbish. You nattered away, with as much zest and enthusiasm as you would probably have if I was telling you the horniest experience that captain horny had on national horny day. You were brilliant, so funny and didn't make me feel silly at all - so thank you for that 
I can't really add to what people have said already, besides, my blummin daughter keeps whinging cos it's her turn on here :roll:
So just continue being you, cos we all just love it!!!!
I certainly don't think you should consider yourself an outsider :shock: Its not the biggest kept secret in the world that I think you and Blue are just the coolest people around! :twisted: ....... you don't see how inferior I feel to you!
But this ain't about Blue, so just gonna hoof her out this post for a while :twisted:
Right, now take a look at yourself - sure you get a bit pissed off sometimes, we all do, and after what you've been through over the years it's no wonder - you really do show your strength of character by the way you deal with life. But above all that, and the person that really shines through is an amazing guy. Someone ...... omg trying to explain what you're like and just had a vision of you in yer underwear with that killer body, just how do you get a physique like that!!!!!! ......... ok, back from the Silkies page (again
), right where was I? Oh yeh, you as a person......Someone who knows what he likes, knows who he is - takes life by the horns and runs with it. Making sure you have an absolute blast every step of the way. :twisted: What a superb way to be. Its sweet that you feel unsure of yourself on occasion - it's even sweeter to watch you as you relax and show your true personality.
On top of all that, you have a wonderful acceptance of other people ...... I still think of when I charged up to you at the NW munch and started going on and on about my 'dogging' experience the night before
You didn't stare at me, or look down on me because I was rubbish. You nattered away, with as much zest and enthusiasm as you would probably have if I was telling you the horniest experience that captain horny had on national horny day. You were brilliant, so funny and didn't make me feel silly at all - so thank you for that I can't really add to what people have said already, besides, my blummin daughter keeps whinging cos it's her turn on here :roll:
So just continue being you, cos we all just love it!!!!
Sex God
Satin,I certainly don't accept you because you come attached to blue. It is a bonus ;) but it's not the only thing about you, which, makes you attractive to me as a person in your own right.
Chin up chicken and big hugs. :kiss:
I can not speak with direct experience of blind and narrowminded predjudice I have only seen it inflicted on others. All I can say is that this world is enriched by the diversity of the peoples in it .Its evolution is driven more by its variety than its similarity. We should all embrace the differences between oursleves and celebrate those rather than dwell in the similarities.
Your heart is very much in the right place I think Satin which is the only requirement we should ask of one another.
Other peoples opinions of you only make a difference to your world if you let them ...do you really want them to be that influential?
Your heart is very much in the right place I think Satin which is the only requirement we should ask of one another.
Other peoples opinions of you only make a difference to your world if you let them ...do you really want them to be that influential?
Sexlightened
I think it's plain to see that everyone here thinks the world of you Satin. You've certainly entered a little light (and certain parts of your anatomy) into all of our lives.
I for one have never had the courage to be as open and honest to the world about my sexuality and dressing preferences as you are. I have recently (as you know ) been co-erced into exploring my 'other side' by a certain young lovely, but it has taken me a long time to even admit my other side exists, let alone to live it to the full as you do.
There is no way in the world any woman would turn down a body like yours (you should try living life with my pudding belly :P ), regardless of how you dress or what your preferences are. In fact, I'm getting jealous just thinking about it now... let me be you! let me be you!! :cry:
I cannot relate fully to your situation as I've never been confident about myself in the way that you come across as being. I'm more the type to keep myself to myself and not let anyone know for fear of people thinking that there is something wrong with me. Thankfully, xxdevil69 hsa been working wonders at bringing me out of my shell and I've experienced some of the most fantastic times of my life since I've started to become 'enlightened'. I can only hope to be as well thought of as you are in both your guises.
Just remember you are the only you in the world and no matter what anyone else says being an individual is the best thing in the world....
SH members are completely normal... it's everyone else that're freaks :lol:
Now, can I borrow that red dress you weree wearing at the party sometime? think I could get somee good avatars with that on :wink:
I for one have never had the courage to be as open and honest to the world about my sexuality and dressing preferences as you are. I have recently (as you know
) been co-erced into exploring my 'other side' by a certain young lovely, but it has taken me a long time to even admit my other side exists, let alone to live it to the full as you do.There is no way in the world any woman would turn down a body like yours (you should try living life with my pudding belly :P ), regardless of how you dress or what your preferences are. In fact, I'm getting jealous just thinking about it now... let me be you! let me be you!! :cry:
I cannot relate fully to your situation as I've never been confident about myself in the way that you come across as being. I'm more the type to keep myself to myself and not let anyone know for fear of people thinking that there is something wrong with me. Thankfully, xxdevil69 hsa been working wonders at bringing me out of my shell and I've experienced some of the most fantastic times of my life since I've started to become 'enlightened'. I can only hope to be as well thought of as you are in both your guises.
Just remember you are the only you in the world and no matter what anyone else says being an individual is the best thing in the world....
SH members are completely normal... it's everyone else that're freaks
:lol: Now, can I borrow that red dress you weree wearing at the party sometime? think I could get somee good avatars with that on :wink:
Firstly to Satin, as I know that it took alot of guts writing that post....
We have never met, but yet I admire you greatly... Like others have stated in this thread you always come across as articulate and considerate....
When Steve and I started swinging we had never been anything other than "the norm" and to be honest we have gained so much from knowing people like youself and Judy amoung others.... We have learned so much about alternative lifestyles, which while we dont follow, respect greatly...
Society is a cruel thing, thoughtless in its critisism and non-acceptance of people that do not conform to what they consider "normal".... Well as far as I am concerned they can stick "normal" where the sun dont shine because those of us that have broken free are much happier people for it....
Oh and one last thing......
That's for thinking you are just tolerated bacause you are blue's other half!!...... You are loved because you are you :kiss:
Shireen
xxx
to Satin, as I know that it took alot of guts writing that post....We have never met, but yet I admire you greatly... Like others have stated in this thread you always come across as articulate and considerate....
When Steve and I started swinging we had never been anything other than "the norm" and to be honest we have gained so much from knowing people like youself and Judy amoung others.... We have learned so much about alternative lifestyles, which while we dont follow, respect greatly...
Society is a cruel thing, thoughtless in its critisism and non-acceptance of people that do not conform to what they consider "normal".... Well as far as I am concerned they can stick "normal" where the sun dont shine because those of us that have broken free are much happier people for it....
Oh and one last thing......
That's for thinking you are just tolerated bacause you are blue's other half!!...... You are loved because you are you :kiss:Shireen
xxx
Sex God
Well satin I think you are great.
Even though I have only known you a short amount of time I can see some things that remind me of someone I know well.
He is also bisexual and an x-dresser, he loves the feeling of being dressed in feminine clothes but he has kept this a secret from close friends and all family, in fact the only one that knew was his partner. Not long ago with his partner he joined a fantastic group of people and he has come out a little more (even dressed in public, well a party) this is great as it has allowed him to be more open about things (i.e. his sexual preferences)
This person is not a freak and is also very lucky to have someone very close who enjoys and encourages his "other side".
True there are some people who look at his pics and says he is a fool or looks crap but these people are nothing compared to the people he has met on swinging heaven.
The peeps on SH have accepted him for who he is and what he gets up.
Take care and look forward to chatting a bit more next time.
xx
Del
Even though I have only known you a short amount of time I can see some things that remind me of someone I know well.
He is also bisexual and an x-dresser, he loves the feeling of being dressed in feminine clothes but he has kept this a secret from close friends and all family, in fact the only one that knew was his partner. Not long ago with his partner he joined a fantastic group of people and he has come out a little more (even dressed in public, well a party) this is great as it has allowed him to be more open about things (i.e. his sexual preferences)
This person is not a freak and is also very lucky to have someone very close who enjoys and encourages his "other side".
True there are some people who look at his pics and says he is a fool or looks crap but these people are nothing compared to the people he has met on swinging heaven.
The peeps on SH have accepted him for who he is and what he gets up.
Take care and look forward to chatting a bit more next time.
xx
Del
Sex God
Satin hunni :therethere:
We have met only once but what a meeting it was. You are one of the most genuine caring and thoughtful people that I have ever met.
I have felt how you are feeling right now, not because I am a bisexual tranny but because the love of my life is. Does this make me a freak for loving him so much and encouraging him to follow his desires. I don't think it does but not everyone can see it from our point of view.
Bisexuality and transvestism is a way of life for us, we think it is "normal". Unfortunately for us we are unable to live life to the full in this way, as we haven't found clubs etc near us that we can go to and let our hair down and be ourselves. We generally stick to doing it behind closed doors until something comes up like your party. I know Del was excited at being able to go out and I was bloody terrified and excited at the same time. It was our first experience of being dressed in public and can honestly say that if it wasn't for you and yours we wouldn't have felt so comfortable with the whole experience.
I know exactly where you are coming from as we have been at the receiving end of some downright nasty comments from members of this site. You may remember the post that I put up here a couple of weeks back which quoted a message that we received from a member that was so nasty that I felt I had to post it. The kind words from all that replied was overwhelming and made me feel so much better, lifted my morale again and made me smile again.
Hopefully we have all been able to lift your morale satin.
We love you for being you. Don't you dare change for any one.
Gill x
We have met only once but what a meeting it was. You are one of the most genuine caring and thoughtful people that I have ever met.
I have felt how you are feeling right now, not because I am a bisexual tranny but because the love of my life is. Does this make me a freak for loving him so much and encouraging him to follow his desires. I don't think it does but not everyone can see it from our point of view.
Bisexuality and transvestism is a way of life for us, we think it is "normal". Unfortunately for us we are unable to live life to the full in this way, as we haven't found clubs etc near us that we can go to and let our hair down and be ourselves. We generally stick to doing it behind closed doors until something comes up like your party. I know Del was excited at being able to go out and I was bloody terrified and excited at the same time. It was our first experience of being dressed in public and can honestly say that if it wasn't for you and yours we wouldn't have felt so comfortable with the whole experience.
I know exactly where you are coming from as we have been at the receiving end of some downright nasty comments from members of this site. You may remember the post that I put up here a couple of weeks back which quoted a message that we received from a member that was so nasty that I felt I had to post it. The kind words from all that replied was overwhelming and made me feel so much better, lifted my morale again and made me smile again.
Hopefully we have all been able to lift your morale satin.
We love you for being you. Don't you dare change for any one.
Gill x
Sex God
ditto what everyone else said!!
HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH SATIN!
You are a beautiful person because you are you, and thats why blue is with you, not anyone else :rose:
Look forward to seeing you in your stockings in November!
J xxx
HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH SATIN!
You are a beautiful person because you are you, and thats why blue is with you, not anyone else :rose:
Look forward to seeing you in your stockings in November!
J xxx
Sex God
Hear hear Gill. Well said.
Satin, we've met once at Blue's party and I'm looking forward to your birthday bash and meeting you again.
We can't expect that the whole world is gonna see things our way, or be tolerant to others' lifestyles, but I think that what's far more important is to surround yourself with people who accept you, me, everyone for who they are. We don't go out and give people grief because they're different to us and our way of doing things. So ignore the shit and enjoy your friends and then at least we'll be happy, not like the other sad fucks out there (some of whom are on this site, of course. But then they give the rest of us a laugh, don't they.
Love to you and Blue
xx
Satin, we've met once at Blue's party and I'm looking forward to your birthday bash and meeting you again.
We can't expect that the whole world is gonna see things our way, or be tolerant to others' lifestyles, but I think that what's far more important is to surround yourself with people who accept you, me, everyone for who they are. We don't go out and give people grief because they're different to us and our way of doing things. So ignore the shit and enjoy your friends and then at least we'll be happy, not like the other sad fucks out there (some of whom are on this site, of course. But then they give the rest of us a laugh, don't they.
Love to you and Blue
xx
Orgasminator
Satin
There is nothing wrong with you - to be honest - It is a big turn on. Blue is one lucky woman
Melons xxx
There is nothing wrong with you - to be honest - It is a big turn on. Blue is one lucky woman
Melons xxx
Master of Sex
WOW :shock: i did not expect this sort of response and am a bit over wellmed.
thank you all sooooooooo much for all the support you have all shown .
to those that PM d me i will PM you tomoro as got to get ready for work now and have spent the day recovering from our sons 2nd birthday party yesterday .
once again thank you all so much :D :D
thank you all sooooooooo much for all the support you have all shown
.to those that PM d me i will PM you tomoro as got to get ready for work now and have spent the day recovering from our sons 2nd birthday party yesterday
.once again thank you all so much :D :D
Sex God
Hi satin, unlike many others here I have not had the pleasure of meeting you, I hope to one day, I am sad that you feel weird sometimes, what is "Normal" just go on being true to yourself, and I look forward to having a drink with you sometime soon.
John
xx
John
xx
Orgasminator
Quote by satin
ive been dressing from the age of 11yrs old my first pair or panties i stole from my next doors washing line,im 36 in a few weeks and still have days like today where i feel like a freak.
Why feel like a freak?
I picked my first punter up at about the same age as you were, but that was in the late 50's and I am certainly not a freak.
If you ever need to talk to some one who knows something about what you are going through then their are enough of us on here for you to have a private chat to, I can always meet you on msn messenger.
I hope you feel less like a freak after reading this.
TS
assionkiss:Everytime I've met you I've commented on how utterly gorgeous you are.
You always make me feel welcome when I chat to you and you never laugh at my idiocy too much once i'm beered up at the munches
You don't mind dancing with me even when everyone else is running the opposite direction.
These are fairly superficial things that I love about you but they do make you special to me, and as time goes by I hope to get to know you better and better. I'm still certain though, that I'll fancy the pants off you and love you for who you are.
Be proud. :passionkiss:
Jas
XXX
Sex God
Satin, I haven't met you so far and I don't get on here anywhere near as often as I'd like but from what I have seen from your postings and from what other people have said you seem to be a decent, sensitive and caring human being. That is what is important, we all have our preferences or kinks or whatever. I do not think anyone on here 'tolerates' you, I think you are firmly accepted as part of group of friends.
Do what feels right for you, the people who love and respect you will accept that, the others are either misquided or not worthy of your time.
Please continue to join in the fun with the rest of us, and I hope to meet you in person sometime.
Roger.
Do what feels right for you, the people who love and respect you will accept that, the others are either misquided or not worthy of your time.
Please continue to join in the fun with the rest of us, and I hope to meet you in person sometime.
Roger.
Orgasminator
Quote by satin
WOW :shock: i did not expect this sort of response and am a bit over wellmed.
thank you all sooooooooo much for all the support you have all shown
to those that PM d me i will PM you tomoro as got to get ready for work now and have spent the day recovering from our sons 2nd birthday party yesterday
once again thank you all so much :D :D
Just think your as much of a freak as all the women who dress in jeans, who decides who should wear what?
TS
