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Im just curious how come the singles get such a hard time?

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Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?
As far as being a single male goes, It's all to do with supply and demand......there's plenty of supply, but limited demand....oh and a lot of singles think that if they reply to an ad and don't get sex, then it's crap.....they don't realise that women (in general) prefer to establish a relationship (however brief) before letting some hormone crazed ejit loose on them!...biggrin
I believe that using sites such as this (what, you mean there are others!...:D), should be no different from meeting people in "normal" situations. Get to know folk, let them get to know you and see where it leads......
Quote by JustABloke
As far as being a single male goes, It's all to do with supply and demand......there's plenty of supply, but limited demand....oh and a lot of singles think that if they reply to an ad and don't get sex, then it's crap.....they don't realise that women (in general) prefer to establish a relationship (however brief) before letting some hormone crazed ejit loose on them!...biggrin

Well said sir, you beat me to it.
Firstly most couples in the swinging scene have bi fems who would rather meet women than men, secondly most people in the swinging scene are single men and they greatly out number everyone else, also most of the single men are married and cheating which is not what most genuine swingers are after and thirdly if you read what little comeback people do post on time waster (that means pic collectors, no shows, guys posing as a woman or couple etc) most of them are single guys which makes you very weary of them all, saying that there are some genuine single guys on here i know a fair few but as i say in all my post of this nature guys who get known by going to munches etc do the best :thumbup:
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As far as being a single male goes, It's all to do with supply and demand......there's plenty of supply, but limited demand....oh and a lot of singles think that if they reply to an ad and don't get sex, then it's crap.....they don't realise that women (in general) prefer to establish a relationship (however brief) before letting some hormone crazed ejit loose on them!...biggrin

Well said sir, you beat me to it.
Story of my life!....always seem to finish before others!....oh we're not talking about food....damn...damn....damn.... wink
fair enough as long as theres hope for me yet im game cool
ok so munches is the way forward thx smile
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guys posing as a woman or couple etc

I have to ask why people do this?.....do they think that when they meet, the woman/couple will say "oh well, your here now".....Muppets...complete muppets!
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Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?

I think the answer to your question is that this is a swingers site not a quick shag site!
The site works brilliantly for people who are prepared to put some effort into getting known and making friends. Everything else stems from there.
I'm a single guy (albeit with a gf I met through the site) and I'm very happy and comfortable here. biggrin :D :D There are lots of lovely people and I/we have met and formed friendships with quite a few of them.
It's not just about having sex. :P
Single guys are two a penny here and if they come on with a post or addy which is 'in your face' desperate for sex they'd be better off elsewhere. rolleyes :roll: Until they understand that and use this site and treat the members accordingly they might as well go and piss in the wind! :haha:
Hope this helps. wink
ES :rascal:
I agree with the supply and demand comment. Personally, we are not into meeting single guys but appreciate that other cpls do. Its been our experience on member sites that many guys ignore the part of profiles that say 'no single guys' or 'single guys we'll contact you'. We are sure there are nice singles out there but as we are not into looking we tend only to have to deal with the unpleasant ones.
A lot of guys we encounter seem to think they can change a cpls mind by showing on cam or telling the cpls what they would do. A further point is that we vaule friendship and getting to know cpls before doing anything sexual. Its our experience that a number single guys will try everything just for sex and don't really care who they get it from. This could be true of cpls but a much smaller percentage.
Guys who are not pushy are fine but when your not looking for single guys and are innundated with mails pms etc single guys it gets frustrating.
Quote by JustABloke
guys posing as a woman or couple etc

I have to ask why people do this?.....do they think that when they meet, the woman/couple will say "oh well, your here now".....Muppets...complete muppets!
Well i have fell for it b4 redface
years ago when we was very new, arranged to meet a couple and only the guy turned up and asked me to get in the car and he'd take me to his wife, obviously i was very weary and said i'd stay where i was and wait for him to come back with her, soon as he drove off i legged it home lol
But as i said i was new and u live and learn
I soppose it must be very annoying
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Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?

I think you are right... single guys do get a harder time of it... I don't think it happens in the forums much, But i do see it happening in the Chatroom, which is why i don't go in there half as much as i did, There are some very well known people in there who wouldn't give a single guy the time of day even if they just said hello....and i do get the distinct feeling as if i am a 2nd class citizen......
okay.. on to what you asked about.....
As ES said before... I think mistake a lot of single guys make is to think swingers sites are just easy places to get a leg over....
especially with SH, i think most people here do say that you get out of the site what you put into it....there is no rush.....just take your time, get yourself known and accepted and things will move on from there....
As others have said, it is a supply and demand issue....there as more single guys here than there are couples, and there are move couples on here than single bifems... so be yourself and sell yourself... you can only be the best you....
The "bull in a china shop" approach is likely to have the opposite effect to the one that you expect, I wish that more singles guys would think with the brain on their shoulders, rather than the one in their pants.....
some fantastic views and reports. has a newbie reading through all these points really does help. and we should take lisen and take most of them in. Thank you to you all
The Dukes
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Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?

I think that there has been so much bullshit on this thread. It's just as easy for a single male to find what he is looking for as it is for a single bifem to find what she wants.
When I first came here I had certain ideas about what I wanted, they were soon proved pretty silly (ok I was after a quick shag), so I changed what I wanted, I can now get exactly what I want pretty much any night of the week.
It depends on what you want, not what is available, so many people go through life not being happy because they are not getting what they want, I discovered that what I was after (a quick shag) was not what I wanted, what I wanted was a particular feeling, I found that I could just as easily get that by going out and playing a game of chess in a pizza shop or curry house whilst eating. So whether I go out and have the company of a lady to eat a nice meal and to chat to, or whether she comes to mine and we fuck all night I can come away feeling like I have had a great result.
To be honest the company and happy chat of a lady is much more rewarding than just a shag. Ok, a night of great sex after the chat is better still, but with or without I still get what I want.
HTH
Chris
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Personally I have met several single guys off here - very successful meets with some really smashing people. Single guys are abundant but you have to realise that as a single guy you NEED to make your ad stand out.
and believe it or not so do single straight fems. God how many pms have I had to deal with offering a meet but they want a BI fem. Their answer when I say sorry but I am straight is not to worry they will turn me. Some can get really nasty in pm or on email which is why I don't use the ads.
Steph lol

Wow there are actually single straight fems on this site ?? biggrin :D You had better keep that quiet before all the single straight guys think they can get a leg over.
I agree with everything said so far... but I also think this site does favour single guys who do have a bit of a personality and can take the time to make the effort. Because for once you can actually stand out from all the knobs and stupid men who normally grunt to get girls in nightclubs. Yes it takes time to establish that you might be genuine, and nice, and worth a go.... but once that is done you also get to enjoy the occasional praise that comes from standing out from the riff raff.
Whatever social group you are in there will always be some (or indeed many) giving you a bad name... the only mature thing todo is rise above it.
On radio 2 today they had some bloke blathering on about how cyclists were evil and should be taxed and regulated. He had some sensible points, but he was also picking up on the obvious steriotypes applied to all cyclists from the actions of a few (e.g. red light jumping, or wearing black at night!) And if you want to get even more political just look at how Muslims are viewed today its very difficult to get a ballenced objective view of this social group from quite a lot of predudiced individuals.
I am not saying that people here are unduly predudiced against single guys... far from it, the level of suspicion is about right. The best thing you can do as a single guy is rise above it and prove them wrong... just like real life.
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Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?

I think that there has been so much bullshit on this thread. It's just as easy for a single male to find what he is looking for as it is for a single bifem to find what she wants.
When I first came here I had certain ideas about what I wanted, they were soon proved pretty silly (ok I was after a quick shag), so I changed what I wanted, I can now get exactly what I want pretty much any night of the week.
It depends on what you want, not what is available, so many people go through life not being happy because they are not getting what they want, I discovered that what I was after (a quick shag) was not what I wanted, what I wanted was a particular feeling, I found that I could just as easily get that by going out and playing a game of chess in a pizza shop or curry house whilst eating. So whether I go out and have the company of a lady to eat a nice meal and to chat to, or whether she comes to mine and we fuck all night I can come away feeling like I have had a great result.
To be honest the company and happy chat of a lady is much more rewarding than just a shag. Ok, a night of great sex after the chat is better still, but with or without I still get what I want.
HTH
Chris
Quote by dambuster
Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?

I think that there has been so much bullshit on this thread. It's just as easy for a single male to find what he is looking for as it is for a single bifem to find what she wants.
When I first came here I had certain ideas about what I wanted, they were soon proved pretty silly (ok I was after a quick shag), so I changed what I wanted, I can now get exactly what I want pretty much any night of the week.
It depends on what you want, not what is available, so many people go through life not being happy because they are not getting what they want, I discovered that what I was after (a quick shag) was not what I wanted, what I wanted was a particular feeling, I found that I could just as easily get that by going out and playing a game of chess in a pizza shop or curry house whilst eating. So whether I go out and have the company of a lady to eat a nice meal and to chat to, or whether she comes to mine and we fuck all night I can come away feeling like I have had a great result.
To be honest the company and happy chat of a lady is much more rewarding than just a shag. Ok, a night of great sex after the chat is better still, but with or without I still get what I want.
HTH
Chris

Does that mean I've pulled? I know this curry house in Mansfield biggrin
Quote by marmalaid
Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?

I think that there has been so much bullshit on this thread. It's just as easy for a single male to find what he is looking for as it is for a single bifem to find what she wants.
When I first came here I had certain ideas about what I wanted, they were soon proved pretty silly (ok I was after a quick shag), so I changed what I wanted, I can now get exactly what I want pretty much any night of the week.
It depends on what you want, not what is available, so many people go through life not being happy because they are not getting what they want, I discovered that what I was after (a quick shag) was not what I wanted, what I wanted was a particular feeling, I found that I could just as easily get that by going out and playing a game of chess in a pizza shop or curry house whilst eating. So whether I go out and have the company of a lady to eat a nice meal and to chat to, or whether she comes to mine and we fuck all night I can come away feeling like I have had a great result.
To be honest the company and happy chat of a lady is much more rewarding than just a shag. Ok, a night of great sex after the chat is better still, but with or without I still get what I want.
HTH
Chris

Does that mean I've pulled? I know this curry house in Mansfield biggrin
ohhh i'm from Mansfield, what curry house is that then cause i never found any good ones lol
Quote by naughtynymphos1
Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?

I think that there has been so much bullshit on this thread. It's just as easy for a single male to find what he is looking for as it is for a single bifem to find what she wants.
When I first came here I had certain ideas about what I wanted, they were soon proved pretty silly (ok I was after a quick shag), so I changed what I wanted, I can now get exactly what I want pretty much any night of the week.
It depends on what you want, not what is available, so many people go through life not being happy because they are not getting what they want, I discovered that what I was after (a quick shag) was not what I wanted, what I wanted was a particular feeling, I found that I could just as easily get that by going out and playing a game of chess in a pizza shop or curry house whilst eating. So whether I go out and have the company of a lady to eat a nice meal and to chat to, or whether she comes to mine and we fuck all night I can come away feeling like I have had a great result.
To be honest the company and happy chat of a lady is much more rewarding than just a shag. Ok, a night of great sex after the chat is better still, but with or without I still get what I want.
HTH
Chris

Does that mean I've pulled? I know this curry house in Mansfield biggrin
ohhh i'm from Mansfield, what curry house is that then cause i enver found any good ones lol
Could have guessed that you'd turn up, you just wanna watch don't you?
Monsoon, wasn't impressed with the one across the road though (forget the name)
It really ISN'T just supply and demand....
I speak from experience, as someone who helps and looks after the interests of girls seeking males...... but who - at the same time - is a man looking for couples in his own right.
As a single man, I get on average two genuine new contacts a week, either via SH or through people I've already met. Great. And lovely to be in that situation. But it ain't cos I'm pretty (I'm not). Nor lucky. I just TRY.
If you're a couple (or a gal) willing to meet single guys, you get flooded with dozens, even hundreds, of replies: and 99.9 per cent of them are completely and utterly fucking useless and hopeless, because the blokes are very very obviously lazy, thick, ignorant, rude, illiterate and pigshit twatting stupid. It really is very hard indeed to find a reply from a geezer who seems from his mail to be be even half-way like a decent civilised human being you'd want to even say hello to, let alone go to bed with.
If single guys would genuinely put some thought into their ads and replies (even to the shocking extent of using spellcheckers and punctuation), a whole new life would open up and their beds would break under the weight of grateful women. Unfortunately very few of them can be arsed to do anything about it, and almost none of them will be bothered to read this thread. Good. All the more for the rest of us.
Quote by marmalaid
Does that mean I've pulled? I know this curry house in Mansfield biggrin

Mansfield ?????
Yer avin a tin baarfff aintchya ???
I don't think I've ever been out in Mansfield.
There's a decent one 500 yds from the house ! ! !
Although I did have a fairly decent karhai last week in a small Derbyshire town just south of here that I can't name just yet for fear of 'showing out' too much.
Quote by marmalaid
Iv been on other sites before this one and ive noticed single men have a much harder time to find what there looking for can anyone explain why this seems to be the case?

I think that there has been so much bullshit on this thread. It's just as easy for a single male to find what he is looking for as it is for a single bifem to find what she wants.
When I first came here I had certain ideas about what I wanted, they were soon proved pretty silly (ok I was after a quick shag), so I changed what I wanted, I can now get exactly what I want pretty much any night of the week.
It depends on what you want, not what is available, so many people go through life not being happy because they are not getting what they want, I discovered that what I was after (a quick shag) was not what I wanted, what I wanted was a particular feeling, I found that I could just as easily get that by going out and playing a game of chess in a pizza shop or curry house whilst eating. So whether I go out and have the company of a lady to eat a nice meal and to chat to, or whether she comes to mine and we fuck all night I can come away feeling like I have had a great result.
To be honest the company and happy chat of a lady is much more rewarding than just a shag. Ok, a night of great sex after the chat is better still, but with or without I still get what I want.
HTH
Chris

Does that mean I've pulled? I know this curry house in Mansfield biggrin
ohhh i'm from Mansfield, what curry house is that then cause i enver found any good ones lol
Could have guessed that you'd turn up, you just wanna watch don't you?
Monsoon, wasn't impressed with the one across the road though (forget the name)
well go on then i'll watch if you insist lol wink
i'll pop in and see my mum while i'm up that way any way lol
Quote by dambuster

Does that mean I've pulled? I know this curry house in Mansfield biggrin

Mansfield ?????
Yer avin a tin baarfff aintchya ???
I don't think I've ever been out in Mansfield.
There's a decent one 500 yds from the house ! ! !
Although I did have a fairly decent karhai last week in a small Derbyshire town just south of here that I can't name just yet for fear of 'showing out' too much.
whats up with mansfield?? :shock:
Quote by naughtynymphos1

Hey I'm from Mansfield toooo, i hear the best Curry house is in huthwaite (Sutton Ashfield way)
On the subject of hard times ( i always get one when a womans around wink )
Quote by The Dukes

ohhh i'm from Mansfield, what curry house is that then cause i never found any good ones lol

Hey I'm from Mansfield toooo, i hear the best Curry house is in huthwaite (Sutton Ashfield way)
On the subject of hard times ( i always get one when a womans around wink )
well thanx for clearing up where Huthwaite is :lol:
Quote by Kniphofia
It really ISN'T just supply and demand....
I speak from experience, as someone who helps and looks after the interests of girls seeking males

What ? Like a pimp, you mean??????????????????
Quote by Kniphofia
If you're a couple (or a gal) willing to meet single guys, you get flooded with dozens, even hundreds, of replies: and 99.9 per cent of them are completely and utterly fucking useless and hopeless, because the blokes are very very obviously lazy, thick, ignorant, rude, illiterate and pigshit twatting stupid. It really is very hard indeed to find a reply from a geezer who seems from his mail to be be even half-way like a decent civilised human being you'd want to even say hello to, let alone go to bed with.

Jeeez ! !!
I thought I could be a sanctimonious, even arrogant arse at times - but for fuck's sake ! !
So where do we get lessons ??
Oh - that's right, below.

Quote by Kniphofia
If single guys would genuinely put some thought into their ads and replies (even to the shocking extent of using spellcheckers and punctuation), a whole new life would open up and their beds would break under the weight of grateful women. Unfortunately very few of them can be arsed to do anything about it, and almost none of them will be bothered to read this thread. Good. All the more for the rest of us.


Ok, I've read that. I now know what I should have been doing for the past year.
I just hope my bed is up to it.
Quote by The Dukes
ohhh i'm from Mansfield, what curry house is that then cause i never found any good ones lol

Hey I'm from Mansfield toooo, i hear the best Curry house is in huthwaite (Sutton Ashfield way)
On the subject of hard times ( i always get one when a womans around wink )
Clipstone
Quote by bushwackers

ohhh i'm from Mansfield, what curry house is that then cause i never found any good ones lol

Hey I'm from Mansfield toooo, i hear the best Curry house is in huthwaite (Sutton Ashfield way)
On the subject of hard times ( i always get one when a womans around wink )
Clipstone
hey my hubbies from clippo small word eh lol
Quote by naughtynymphos1
well thanx for clearing up where Huthwaite is lol

Thats fine, just saw it on a map not lived here long, yorkshire originally (good Curry houses there)
Soz gone of the subject.