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lots of people on here get on their moral high horse

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Me.. always :P In fact, if condoms don't start to appear on the radar once things get relaxed my alarm bells ring and I lose interest.
And I agree with you on the profile pics without condoms thingy... I find myself constantly trying to play 'spot the condom' with a lot of pics nowadays. I asked one guy why he said he practised safe sex and yet in all of his pics there was no sign of any condoms. He said they were all his wife.. she'd clearly changed shape, hair and skin colour several times over the course of their marriage confused
I find it far easier to use condoms if I get off the high horse - it's a bit unstable up there. biggrin:D:D:D
But, like Bloke, lack of condoms is a real turn off.
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about safe sex.
lots of people make it very clear in their profile that they always practise safe sex. but in their profile pics there are lots of bareback shots with different cocks.
i have seen more bareback in clubs than safe sex.
how many people actually put their money where their mouth is on this subject?

Do you?
Brucie makes a fair point.
Bloke says what I woulda said.
Brucie then takes the same stance as me.
Just thought Id confirm I was paying attention.
No way would I risk bareback sex with someone of whom all I know is she likes a lot of cock!
BG, never good but always careful!!!
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thing is, even though i believe im now a condon convert, i actually believe that the fear of HIV for a white hetrosexual male in the UK is irrational. i take far higher risks in my life every day...

goodness me... sometimes ignorance really isn't bliss is it ? rolleyes
I agree with that too Brucie but the downside is a bit too big for me to want to take even that slight risk.
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thing is, even though i believe im now a condon convert, i actually believe that the fear of HIV for a white hetrosexual male in the UK is irrational. i take far higher risks in my life every day...

But not many so deadly. I know my life doesn't have all that many "heads you live - tails you die" risks. Most threaten my convenience, my income or a need for treatment before being well again. Very few are nothing or death.
Don't bareback - use condoms there isn't an excuse good enough not too!
hi there
ive always used condoms and always will
once ive seen a post off a guy or a cpl or single fem saying they will do bareback i stay well clear of them to
keep covered and lets all stay safe
jo x
i choose to use them as i wanna be SAFE
and lee always uses condoms to
thnaks jo
do you ride your bike in shorts and t shirt brucie?
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do you ride your bike in shorts and t shirt brucie?

Nope....He doesn't ;-)
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look, i wear a helmet and leathwers when i ride a bike. snip
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do you ride your bike in shorts and t shirt brucie?

Nope....He doesn't ;-)
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look, i wear a helmet and leathwers when i ride a bike. snip

i was hoping someone would be bothered looking that up biggrin
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the fear of HIV for a white hetrosexual male in the UK is irrational. day...

Now people of all ages can and do discriminate against each other because of thier diferent gender, skin colour, sexual orientation. I am not going to say if this is right or wrong, that is not for me to say. Nevertheless I am certain that the HIV virus doesn't know or care whether you are black or white, male or female, gay or straight.
Anyone stupid or ignorant enough to believe they are less likely to catch HIV or AIDS without being careful has to be considered a risk.
I have experienced dificulties maintaining an erection while putting on a condom, I even had to bow out of what would have been a coulple of most exciting encounters. Would I take a risk and go bareback just to be sure that I do get my jollies in the future? Not a fucking chance! ~ Far too risky!!
this debate usually leads on to the...is oral sex dangerous as unprotected sexual intercourse...and i have to say, I was once in a club where i was having sex with a guy (with condom of course) and another guy came up and more or less shoved his cock in my mouth....
now in the heat of the moment I took it (that not this issue here) and gave him oral sex....lets just say he was erm.......eager and after 3 thrusts shot down my throat without so much as a by your leave!!
now i dont mind oral sex, but cant stand the taste of cum or the feel of swallowing it, so was taken aback to say the least.....but what frighetened the crap out of me was that i got an awful sore throat about 4 days later and convinced myself i had gotten some awful disease from my own stupid actions. I was angry at the guy, but more angry with myself for being such an ass with my health!! mad
Thankfully it was nothing, and a full screening at the sti clinic put my mind at rest.
it put a hell of a lot of things into persepctive, and made me think of the whole oral sex, cum swallowing issue a lot more, and made me change my ways.
I received my all clear test two weeks ago but since then its actually put me off sex all together,..Brucie are you advocating for condom or not,i dont seem to understand the point of your thread
I think that if you are sufficiently ignorant about the risks to yourself and your other multiple (should you be so lucky) partners to engage in wanton unprotected sex, that you are proving yourself to be an unworthy and flagrantly disrespectful playing partner.
I even find the term 'bareback' disrespectful and incredibly unsexy. I understand that there are differnt criterion for each person choosing to live this lifestyle but personally, I find the concept that individuals would autonomously choose 'sensation over safety' to be rather incongruous with the precepts of this lifestyle as I see it.
It's simply, for me, a matter of common sense, even if you're told that the person is 'clean'... how mnay people on this site actually go and get screened more than once a decade?
We can all be carrying something without knowledge, including the flu!! Surely it's much nicer and simpler, and more importanly more intelligent and considerate to just slip on a condom so that all of your partners can play in the knowledge that they are at least 99% protected from the contaminants of your previous encounters.
I don't want to sound like I'm on my soapbox (which is foaming nicely) but I do think that this is about respect, for the self and for others rather than a matter of preference.
I don't sleep with established and screened partners without condoms so why would I give a stranger this preferential treatment?
I don't think there is a need or a place for unprotected sex in this world. Giving yourself up to being open sexually with strangers is a minefield of risk, insecurity and hopefully comaradery - why intrude on what is a tricky balance by offering such a lack of respect as to suggest that your back might be bare, and seriously what on earth does your back have to do with your cock in this instance?
Rambling amber....
and what a lovely back you have Phuckers sillyhwoar:
:niegh:
buck-off!
llp
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and what a lovely back you have Phuckers sillyhwoar:

Ahhh you like my bareback,thanks!!
The only times I've not used a condom is when in a long term relationship and that's when I hang up my swinging boots too. I still get checked regularly though and insist on the guy wearing a condom when I am swinging
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never came off. had a guardian angel probably.

<<<<has a guardian angel and a big bike and always wears leathers and gloves and boots to go with my big shiny helmet ..actually its a matt helmet but that didnt sound as good
so anyway the point being you havent fallen off,so why do you now wear leathers its so much more exhilerating feeling the wind against your skin
Because its been around for such a while people have had time to develop some very evasive discussions about safe sex. Its almost become something that we dare not admit to; but yet everyone seems to be guilty of, or something mixed up like that.
the point is if you feel concerned about your health why are you taking what you consider to be a dangerous risk by being involved in or on the fringes of; sexual social groups? If your health is safe then your reputation may not be. What's the more likely to attract new partners, your reputation surely?
If one is supposedly practising safe sex why do people say they have regular check ups. 'just in case'. Just in case of what? You don't need one do you?
So all this sounds so well intentioned but yet somehow hints that all is not quite as correct as one is supposed to believe.
Whilst people talk the theory its not long after the first obligatory use of the condom that sex ensues without either partner checking each others' health issues.
making all the efforts to practise safe sex redundant.
So where does it all lose its discipline?
So does this mean that younger people are becoming desensitised to the dangers of HIV? Hopefully it's just you Brucie, safe sex and condoms are probably all that have stopped an AIDS epidemic wiping out billions of people worldwide.
I remember how scared we all were in the 80's when the press really started warning of the dangers, we didn't know everything but we were right to be worried, and careful too.
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and no one here has even tried to make an argument for based on facts.

Condoms dont just protect against HIV!!! there are loads of other nasties which condoms will stop .... not to mention the little people!!!
Sure you could find enough facts if you went and asked at your local GUM clinic!!
I do know (from a source that I'd rather not disclose cos then you'd all know where I work) that the biggest increase in STI's is now in the over 50's age group with syphilis making a huge comeback!!
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and no one here has even tried to make an argument for based on facts.

Condoms dont just protect against HIV!!! there are loads of other nasties which condoms will stop .... not to mention the little people!!!
Sure you could find enough facts if you went and asked at your local GUM clinic!!
I do know (from a source that I'd rather not disclose cos then you'd all know where I work) that the biggest increase in STI's is now in the over 50's age group with syphilis making a huge comeback!!
I know where you work - in the House of Commons health clinic.
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and no one here has even tried to make an argument for based on facts.

Condoms dont just protect against HIV!!! there are loads of other nasties which condoms will stop .... not to mention the little people!!!
Sure you could find enough facts if you went and asked at your local GUM clinic!!
I do know (from a source that I'd rather not disclose cos then you'd all know where I work) that the biggest increase in STI's is now in the over 50's age group with syphilis making a huge comeback!!
I know where you work - in the House of Commons health clinic.
hehehe ..... not quite lol
To be honest, it doesn't come down to statistics or facts for or against for me, just personal choice really. And I choose to use condoms for penetrative sex, always have and always will - aside from in monogamous relationships where we've both been tested.
It's a simple case of risk management in my head. If I have information or knowledge or something to protect me, I use it to my advantage...same as gingerjo said, if I see someone mouthing off about unprotected sex in Chat etc I make a conscious note to avoid them.. and have done!
As far as oral sex goes.. no, I don't use condoms. If I suck cock, I want cock in my mouth and not rubber.. even the flavoured ones taste like orange, chocolate and mint rubber...ewwww. As far as I’m aware and based on information I’ve got from GUM doctors, the HIV virus is actually a fairly weak one and saliva can and will kill it, let alone stomach acid! Also, if you have them, sores in your mouth bleed out, not in, so based on that knowledge it's a personal choice and a risk I'm prepared to take.
Would I have protected, penetrative sex with someone I knew was HIV+? No, I wouldn’t. Again, I’ll use knowledge I have to make an informed, personal decision and limit risk. It would also limit what I was prepared to do with them (aside from fucking) as I like rimming etc too and I’d just be too conscious of things ..if that makes sense.
Anyways, I guess what I’m waffling on about and trying to say is that I don’t care what the ‘statistics’ say.. for and against, I’ll make my own decisions. Sunbeds give you cancer allegedly... but I still jump on one of them now and then but as far as condoms go.. always.