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marriage and being bi......

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ok so im never surprised lately when i see an ad from a guy wanting to try it with another guy behind his wifes back, am i unusual because of my old fashioned view that there is no reason to commit to someone for life that you dont feel comfortable enough to communicate your inner feelings to? thats one reason why i never married. do you think its cheating if a single bi guy fooled around with a married one?
Well yes of course it it cheating if someone who is married goes behind their partners back and sleeps with another person, regardless of what sex they are.
However who are we to judge what goes on in their lives, perhaps there are reasons why they feel the need to do so.
I do not think it is anyones business but the two people who are having the affair/liaison - let fate decide what the outcome may be.
If you do not like the idea of being the other person then do not do it, I am sure someone else will.
Its a sad thing but it is a common thing.
being a bi-male (whatever that means?) in a serious relationship,
all i can say is it's only cheating if you're lying about it to your partner/wife,
if you cant be honest about your true feelings what are you doing being married to that person?
you are who you are, we might not be able to control our feelings but we can control our honesty.
thats my tuppence worth,
ok i'll shut up now
i dont mean to sound prudish or judgemental, just it bemuses me how people can marry someone they dont really know. i think a lot of these men dont know themselves never mind their partners. lol. whats the point of living a lie? its different if the wife knows her hubby is partial to a bit of cock and gives him her blessing. the concept of marrying someone you have to hold back from is pointless to me. id sooner stay like cliff and be a bachelor boy.... biggrin
Personally I wouldn't go with someoen behind the back of their partner, either sex, got enough things to worry about smile
im glad im not the only one left with a couple of
im just feelin guilty cos a guy told me he is married after i gave him a bj........
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im just feelin guilty cos a guy told me he is married after i gave him a bj........

If you feel that strongly about it, next time check his status before the act, is what I'd advise hun wink
And we all have some form of morals, mine just may not be the same as yours.
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im glad im not the only one left with a couple of

sounds like you thought about your morals after you had fun!
yeah libra i guess i should be more careful in future. just goes to show there are some real rats out there tho. i know morals are a relative concept, mine are to try avoid doing anything that hurts someone else. not always easy tho eh. smile
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yeah libra i guess i should be more careful in future. just goes to show there are some real rats out there tho. i know morals are a relative concept, mine are to try avoid doing anything that hurts someone else. not always easy tho eh. smile

I would advise gently covering your teeth with your lips next time babes wink
im a naughty boy Ms Amber.........the bloke had whipped his knob out within minutes of meeting me and there wasnt much chat beforehand. ill put it down to experience and try being more inquisitive of people in future. cest la vie!
lol libra. funny thing is he complimented me on doin it better than his wife cos she got habit of biting him. if i was her and knew the truth id bite the fcker off! biggrin
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am i unusual because of my old fashioned view that there is no reason to commit to someone for life that you dont feel comfortable enough to communicate your inner feelings to?

We have been happily married longer than most of the contributors to this thread have been alive and so have a little insight into marriage and the compromises that are needed to keep it successful.
It might well be that a married bi-male only became aware of his sexuality long after he was married. If he is well aware of his wife's feelings about either bisexuality or sharing, and feels that this would be something best kept secret, then who are we to judge? Does a marriage equate only to sex? Should a shared life that might be perfect in every respect but one aspect of sex be sacrificed? It is not a perfect world and sometimes the cosy world of black and white blurs into a very dodgy grey. Anyone who has not shaded the truth is either a saint or a liar. "I really don't know how that wing got dented, it must have happened while I was parked" to give one example of deceit. We only play as a couple but would not judge someone who has different values to us.
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im glad im not the only one left with a couple of

Define morals. 100 people will give you 100 different answers. I would think there is a huge section of the population that would see anyone using this site, never mind actually swinging, as having no morals. Once you are immersed in the scene it is easy to forget just how the average person views swinging. When we are in the glass house it's best not to throw stones.
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im just feelin guilty cos a guy told me he is married after i gave him a bj........

We play with couples and singles. We never ask what their marital status is because we don't care. If we did care then we would feel that the onus would be on us to ask before playing, not on them to offer unsolicited information.
If your single and play with a married person behind their partners back i suppose i'n a sence ur a free person so your not cheating as such
however i wouldn't meet someone who was married and cheating as i feel swinging is ment to be fun and based on honestly and respect, and i always think how i would feel if i found out my partners was cheating on me, i wouldn't like it so i wouldn't do it to someone else, its a topic that has no rights and wrongs and i have heard ever excuse under the sun from married guys trying to talk u into meeting them from the clasic 'my wife dosn't understand me' to 'i can't leave cause of kids' personally if my marrage was that bad i felt i had to cheat i would leave but not eveyone see's things as black and white as me, i think most guys and indeed some women just want their cake and eat it, want the mrs at home to cook and clean, look after the kids etc and their bit on the side as well, and women who want their home and provider yet want the fun of meeting others as well, suppose its each to their own really.
yeah there are little white lies then there are great big black ones......and i think hiding the truth is sometimes as bad as lying, its a shame people are in so much of a hurry to be wed and join their lives with someone else without knowing and fully exploring their own needs and desires first. too many people believe that if someone is over 30 and single they must be inadequate.
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bet you found that hard to swallow lol
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do you think its cheating if a single bi guy fooled around with a married one?

As others have already commented, if you have sex with somebody behind your partners back, of whatever gender, then you're cheating.
Having said that, from personal experience I know it can take a lot of guts to bring the subject up, and it's very easy to decide to duck the issue 'till the 'right time'. I admit that I've been looking for meets and indeed even been active on these forums before I'd had that particular conversation, but it wasn't long after I first got a reply that I realised that there was no way in hell I could ever cheat on my wife, so I broached the subject with her.
Fortunately it proved to be possibly the best conversation we've ever had. It helps that we've been together for five and a half years and in every other respect apart from sex we could only be described as soul mates. We've also both got a background in biology, which definitely helped me try to explain the situation we were in as I saw it - that when it comes to sex drive we're at completely opposite ends of the spectrum. It turns out that she was convinced I'd end up having an affair at some point and when I mentioned the idea of swinging she agreed that it was the safest way (both mentally and physically) to solve our one relatively minor issue and allow us to get on with enjoying life.
I'll stop rambling now, though I should probably thank everyone on these forums for their previous posts, as reading through some of the older threads on here was very helpful in persuading me that being open and honest was the only sensible course of action.
im glad it worked out bhd. seems like karma paid you back nicely for being honest with your mrs. biggrin as for it being it hard to swallow i managed to bloody typical i find a guy with a nice fat one then turns out hes married and not on the level. confused whats a bi supposed to do?!!!!
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im glad it worked out bhd. seems like karma paid you back nicely for being honest with your mrs. biggrin

To be fair, I really shouldn't have been anything like as worried. We've always been able to resolve any differences by reasoned discussion, it's one of the reasons I decided to marry her. :D
it takes a lot of courage to open up to anyone about this subject. sounds like you have a good relationship mate. nice one!
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im just feelin guilty cos a guy told me he is married after i gave him a bj........

I think you're being a bit sanctimonious. When I wasn't getting any sex at home and looked for a little action in the woods I never remember anyone asking what my marital status was and I seriously doubt if any of them cared. OK I was only looking for a wank, (which was my answer to being careful about home), but I don't think that's the place you go to meet life's partner anyway.
It makes me bi-sexual and happy to admit it, but within ones sexuality you can make choices as with anything else in life. It's only like I choose not to eat cake cause it makes me fat, I haven't stopped eating.
If you're prepared to suck any good looking knob flashing from the zip why ask the knob to make a moral choice, surely you're not doing it to find true love. It's not thinking anyway and it's owner is on a chemical charge for which there is only one solution.
People find themselves in difficult personal situations and honesty is NOT always the best policy. Heaping one's own guilt on one's partner is actually quite a weak way out. If, for example, one has had an affair and it's over, it does not help ones marriage to confess. I think one should live with one's own guilt and get on with life.
That doesn't mean it's wrong to have a face to face with a partner if life is wrong for you, better change your partner than make both your lives miserable, but I wouldn't want to be the first one to cast a stone either way, it's too personal an issue.
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my moral standing is lying down biggrin

I'll name that song in one!
Back to the topic... before leaping to conclusions, perhaps you should consider that a married person can have the permission of their spouse to play around, especially on this site! Is it morally wrong if (for example) she's sent him out to get a bj and gets off on knowing how naughty he is? While I can accept that some people believe its still sinful to commit adultery even if everyone concerned gives their permission, I find it hard to believe that the original poster is in that category!
I think it was more that his wife possibly didn't know anything about it that was the thing.
I'd guess most people would think it wouldn't be wrong with permission.
well i was just raised to beleive that marriage is for two people who can be totally honest with each other. thats why i never made that commitment to a lass. if you cant be honest with a partner even in hard times i think its best to end it. if thats sanctimonious of me so be it.........
you got my point simon!
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well i was just raised to beleive that marriage is for two people who can be totally honest with each other. thats why i never made that commitment to a lass. if you cant be honest with a partner even in hard times i think its best to end it. if thats sanctimonious of me so be it.........

In what way couldn't you be honest. Do you mean you couldn't tell a woman therefore you couldn't make a commitment, or do you mean you don't think they would find your needs acceptable? Of course it's likely on a percentage basis they wouldn't find your needs acceptable, on the other hand there are significant others on this web site happy to enjoy flexible arrangements with their partners and seem to find happiness in it, (can't think of a better way of putting it).
Yeah but not all people are like people who visit this forum, but it does seem that alot of women like the idea of male on male action, so maybe better to get it out or ask if she fancies a threesome.
As our nic suggests we are both bi, mrs fetish 29 has been out since she was 17 and all her friends no mr fetish although being bi since a teen is only out to very close friends and has never come out to previous partners (and never cheated). he regrets not coming out however previous partners were not Bi,,and he didn’t really understand his feelings till late in life 40, now he is very happy because he can be himself and has a very understanding wife. he would suggest to any person that its not worth living a lie even to your self and its much better to be "out" and enjoy life.
We have also found that quite a lot of cpls want to "try bi" this only tells us that they were the same ah hubby in that they have bi feelings and only now are able to talk about them or express them, we also find that some longstanding friends are also “coming out”.
Sorry if I have gone of thread so to get back on track,We advertise for bi cpls and or bi singles but would not knowingly go with a person who was cheating.
Fetish Bi Cpl are always looking for new bi friends and not nessessarly to play with, as social is nice too. add number 250932