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Quote by st3v3

Can you not just add an opt out option on whether we wanted our pics to appear on this new search function ? We were happy with the site as it was.

The gallery opt out can be discussed, but seriously if either yourself or your partner are worried about your photo's being seen they really shouldn't be public in the first place.
See Shelly's post ... we were willing to take the risk of people finding our pics through the old method ... it took more finding than a postcode and a 3 mile radius search that flashed our pics up on page 1 of a gallery. People who searched for profiles and then subsequently the pictures would more likely be looking for swinging partners .. who knows they might have even read the words first ! Rather than just a ... lets see who we know.
If it`s open for discussion ... can you answer, how hard would it have been to put this click box in place and is it something that will be done?
Well if I had to answer now I'd say that there's two opt outs in place already, you can either make the photo's private or disable the distance search, but thats just my personal opinion and my peers may disagree with me, hence the reason I said that its 'it`s open for discussion'.
There have been some false assumptions made in this thread and I'd like to think that I've provided some clarification where it was needed, there are a lot of ways to make yourself be seen on this site, there's also a lot of different ways to hide yourself and also ways to open things up to those you want.
Quote by two-4-more
there was a thread a while ago were the gallery was discussed... strangley its dissapeared... i know it existed as i posted on it, but my post has dissapeard from the "view your last posts" section... which is strange since the site openly asks for feedback...
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Any how, i suggested for members to be able to opt in or out of tagging/searchable pictures by adding more catagories in the section where you put your own pictures....
Friends only
Private (unserchable - Veiwable if you send to a user i.e. by message - but not in private gallery)
Private Gallery (unserchable - veiwable by invite only)
Public Gallery (these would be searchable)
of course... if they made it possible for selected members to see the pics and not new members then the site wont make any money from pic collectors so i wonder why that discussion dissappeared lol
we did take all of our pictures off when the search function on the gallery started but as the search was poor we gradually put them back on.... looks like thay may dissapear again...
Do you mean this thread??
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/293021.html
I found the above in the New Look sticky above.
im boggled by technology can we have an easy algorythm/flow chart to tell me how i can have pics on my profile as i find them rather helpfull but i dont want my next door neighbour or worse my boss having a perve at the gallery to find my pics and possibly use them not for my good.
Purely in the interests of research, I did a search for members within 3 miles, and the second person I perved <ahem> viewed, is listed as keeping their location and distance from me private. Yet they still appeared in the less than 3 miles category :huh:
Quote by fluff_n_stuff
Purely in the interests of research, I did a search for members within 3 miles, and the second person I perved <ahem> viewed, is listed as keeping their location and distance from me private. Yet they still appeared in the less than 3 miles category :huh:

Have you done this recently, as in since last night?
I complained about this to admin - my distance is set to "private" and yet my pics were coming up on a 3 mile search - and admin sent me a reply saying that this has now been fixed.
Just checked - my photos are NOT showing.
I think that there are many valid points being made here. two-4-more in particular has highlighted several issues that shouldn't be ignored off-hand.
The main point that I feel is being made, it seems to me, is that if people feel their privacy, and the control of their privacy, is being compromised in any way it will negatively affect the nature of the site.
A significant number of people have already been driven underground by hiding their photos due to the whole tagging debacle. Now with the approach to the new search facility, which I think is a good idea fundamentally but possibly ill-conceived, it will do nothing but increase the sense of insecurity within members.
The upshot of this is that it will drive more members underground and/or drive people away, members who will leave the site for good. This is a non-trivial concern and the mods and admin staff should be wary of not taking it seriously enough.
I have already made my pics private, and with the increasing number of members who are following suit, it makes it much harder to use the site for it's true and proper purpose. More of these type of changes may cause many of us to consider leaving permanently.
I hope this doesn't happen.
*lover*
i sadly have been forced to make my pics private. My pulling power is now reduced.
I have always argued in favour of this being a paying site so that people who have an incling i am a swinger and look around the sites will have to pay to get on this site and discover my alternative life. This sadly appears no longer a safe realm.
I value my privacy and having kids in early 20's who are inquisitive could now easily find me. This also applies to colleagues.
i hope now my pics are private that they will not appear in the gallery. They were there i checked. I am now going to check they are gone
What does data protection act say?
i have just checked and some of my pics despite all being private are still in the gallery including 1 from an old account that is no longer active
HELP how do i move them
pm me if u can help i really DO NOT want them there
Private ones should not be in the gallery, if you change a public image to private it can take up to 15 minutes to take effect in the media gallery results, if you are still seeing any private images in your results drop me a pm with the details, if you have an old account that you no longer have access to let me know the username and I will take a look.
Quote by Cherrytree
Purely in the interests of research, I did a search for members within 3 miles, and the second person I perved <ahem> viewed, is listed as keeping their location and distance from me private. Yet they still appeared in the less than 3 miles category :huh:

Have you done this recently, as in since last night?
I complained about this to admin - my distance is set to "private" and yet my pics were coming up on a 3 mile search - and admin sent me a reply saying that this has now been fixed.
Just checked - my photos are NOT showing.
Nope, they are still there. The profile in question shows 'unknown' next to both distance and location, although they were last online over 2 weeks ago. Their adverts give their location as SE Kent but nothing more specific than that.
I just know what all the fuss is...if your photos were public,they could be viewed by anyone who searched the ads section anyway...okay they are in a gallery aswell now,what the difference..if you don't want certain pics viewed set them to private...we've just done a search in the gallery and only found the pics we had choosen for public view only...our private ones are still private...we like the new look gallery!
We also think its a far easier way aswell to look for people we are interested in,go through the photos,click on a specific pic then check out the profile from there.
mine are all gone now.
So whats this about adds
god im so niaeve
Quote by fluff_n_stuff
Purely in the interests of research, I did a search for members within 3 miles, and the second person I perved <ahem> viewed, is listed as keeping their location and distance from me private. Yet they still appeared in the less than 3 miles category :huh:

Have you done this recently, as in since last night?
I complained about this to admin - my distance is set to "private" and yet my pics were coming up on a 3 mile search - and admin sent me a reply saying that this has now been fixed.
Just checked - my photos are NOT showing.
Nope, they are still there. The profile in question shows 'unknown' next to both distance and location, although they were last online over 2 weeks ago. Their adverts give their location as SE Kent but nothing more specific than that.
If you pm me the post code and the members username I will take a look, the unknown field can be triggered by other things and I'm pretty confident that if 'Allow other members to calculate their distance from me:' is set to No then the photo's won't show up.
Quote by Mr-Powers
I just know what all the fuss is...if your photos were public,they could be viewed by anyone who searched the ads section anyway...okay they are in a gallery aswell now,what the difference..if you don't want certain pics viewed set them to private...we've just done a search in the gallery and only found the pics we had choosen for public view only...our private ones are still private...we like the new look gallery!
We also think its a far easier way aswell to look for people we are interested in,go through the photos,click on a specific pic then check out the profile from there.

i think this has been explained earlier... some members - us included - may not mind genuine swingers looking at some or all of their pictures... however the way that the gallery now works makes part of the site look like we are all amature porn stars! it just shows pictures, no profiles, no information just pictures.
Now last time i checked this was a swinging site. now yes we swing with people we find astheticly pleasing however, just pictures tell you nothing about how someone swings, what they are looking for and what their sexualities are.
some people may pay to join this site just for that feature after all, it works out cheaper for membership on here then a subscription to say a porn site. pictures can quite easily be lifted off here. as others say someone now ccould quite easily pay £15 for the month just to browse the local area for people they know and use the pics they have copied off here for malicious purposes. it was far more difficult to find people through the profiles, more clicks more effort and a margin of comfort for those who have careers or families who would prefer to keep this life and home life separate.
we are all members of the site, and yes some will be perfectly happy to have their pics in the gallery and some will not... i just cant see why it would be so difficult to allow people to opt out if they want to!
When you do a gallery search it pulls up pics, but if you look you can click on the tab above to get to the main profile page of that person. The search just takes you to the picture tab of the profile.
Quote by noladreams
When you do a gallery search it pulls up pics, but if you look you can click on the tab above to get to the main profile page of that person. The search just takes you to the picture tab of the profile.

true but its not that obvious...
I think there will always be two sides to this discussion, but truthfully, who will it harm to have an opt out icon/button... no one... there will still be enough members who will want to display their pics, and there are more then enough members who are no longer active who's pictures are automatically put into the gallery so there will still be enough pics for people to perve.
Having said that, surely it should actually be an opt in part of the site, as i bet those who arent as active or are no longer active dont have any idea what their pics are being used for. on the search within 3 miles of us 90% of the pics belonged to profiles not active for over 2 weeks... good to see their privacy being respected.
If it was opt in, i guess the amount of pics available so search would be lower and probably give a more accurate idea of the active membership, and would also show how popular the new "gallery" is.
Its clear to me the obvious and most sensible thing to do is give everyone a fair choice.
Not sure if this is a glitch on the website or the result of members entering incorrect details about themselves but if I'm viewing the 'females' section of the gallery most profiles are actually couples.
Just thought I'd flag it up - apologies if this issue has already been spotted.
Harry
You need to make sure the "match ALL option is ticked"
Yep, it's ticked. Try it for yourself.
Harry
Quote by ColchesterGuy
Yep, it's ticked. Try it for yourself.
Harry

I just tried it... they are all female. It doesn't give you the option to only search 'single' females though... is that what you mean? The profile attached to the pics are couples profiles?
EDIT: You probably need to do a profile search rather than a gallery search to get the single female profiles rather than pics.
Quote by Dirtygirly
Yep, it's ticked. Try it for yourself.
Harry

I just tried it... they are all female. It doesn't give you the option to only search 'single' females though... is that what you mean? The profile attached to the pics are couples profiles?
EDIT: You probably need to do a profile search rather than a gallery search to get the single female profiles rather than pics.
So the point is... You can only use the gallery to perve pictures; if you want to find possible meets you need to search profiles... I rest my case its just a porn section a waste of time really having your pics in there unless you want them drooled or wanked over.
The fact that that is part of the site does not bother me as it no doubt will subsidise future site improvements (and line our illustrious owners pockets)... So why can't the genuine swingers have the ability to put there pictures solely in profiles for profile searches so that they can use the swinging part of the site for swinging and keep it separate from the gallery. And those who are exhibitionists be able to put pics in the gallery so people can perve/wank over/admire... And if those people are also swingers by all means let them put pics on the profile...
There is no reason why the site can't cater for both if it really WANTED to... The question is I suppose what will make the most money... And at this is were the genuine swingers are screwed if you pardon the pun.
When the photos are tagged the question asks
'who is in this photo'
It does not ask 'is this a couples account or females or males account'
So therefore you may find that a female in a photo on her own as an example, will come up in the female section, but she may be part of a couple.
Quote by two-4-more
So far as Private Pics go they won't show up in the search or gallery.
If the option to "Allow other members to calculate their distance from me:" is set to No in My Account then your photo's won't show up if someone selects photos within 3 miles or one of the other distance options.
If you log out and click the Gallery tab you get to see a full page of pics, so now you don't even have to be a member of the site to perv at members pics.

Thats always been the way, you would only ever see one page of pics and only thumbnails at that.
no mention of offering us any other settings to control how our pictures are use....
The most worrying thing for me is the fact that people who join as free members with limited access can also see the profiles and photos that arent in private galleries, albeit the smaller versions. I understand that a lot of members don't know about this. I think sh should rectify this immediately, as its open to all sorts of abuse.
Goldsmith
Quote by goldsmith
The most worrying thing for me is the fact that people who join as free members with limited access can also see the profiles and photos that arent in private galleries, albeit the smaller versions. I understand that a lot of members don't know about this. I think sh should rectify this immediately, as its open to all sorts of abuse.
Goldsmith

That is correct and one of the reasons that the folder is named Public, this is a topic that has been discussed a few times in the past.
Quote by Sarah
When the photos are tagged the question asks
'who is in this photo'
It does not ask 'is this a couples account or females or males account'
So therefore you may find that a female in a photo on her own as an example, will come up in the female section, but she may be part of a couple.

so its not useful as a tool to find swinging partners... merely useful to browse and look at all the pretty pictures... i have yet to hear anyone give a real good point as to how the gallery helps/benifits us genuine swingers...
Access to your photographs and to the forum sections of the website can be controlled by you. This will ensure anonymity.

this is from the terms and conditions of the site...
i would like for my photographs to be accesable on my profile but not in the gallery...
as this states that this access can be controlled by me... this suggests that i need a facility added to the site to enable me to do this...
Quote by st3v3

The most worrying thing for me is the fact that people who join as free members with limited access can also see the profiles and photos that arent in private galleries, albeit the smaller versions. I understand that a lot of members don't know about this. I think sh should rectify this immediately, as its open to all sorts of abuse.
Goldsmith

That is correct and one of the reasons that the folder is named Public, this is a topic that has been discussed a few times in the past.
Still not good though, for all and sundry to be able to see them, public should mean public to all full members, not the whole world.
FFS **** ** or join a boy scout site rolleyes
Sorry but look, you're a swinger, if you're not, wtf are you here??
This is a swinging site, if you have posted 'dodgy' pics, then you have done that for someone's titillation, or to attract other swingers. There really is NO other reason. No honestly, there isn't. <<Shakes head>>
I've been on this site for a little while, on and off, and i'm beginning to get the idea that some folk would prefer to use it as a badge rather than what its meant for.................... not getting into that but sex really really does come into the equation :lol2:
I’m sorry, I may well have misread the OP and some of the replies but to be honest, its way past the time to be precious ppl xxxx
That said, if you happen to have a couple or three Mill to spare let me know, I’ve the perfect place in mind to start “THE EXCLUSIVE” swing club :roll:
Mmm didn’t think so, oh well, guess we’ll have to do with here then lol
sorry, not read through the whole thread - all I know is we've had to put all & any pics we had that could slighty identfy us into Pvt
We've been contacted by folks that have used the distance search on the new gallery just to tell us they think they recognise me!!!
Had to remove the BJ videos we had on here (as you could, again, idenfy, me if you lived close enough to us) so i'd like to see a pvt gallery option on the videos too!!!
We hold our privacy above anything else