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Hi. As most who read this will now we dont post too much and only really go to one club twice a month , and would by no means say we were hardened swingers, so before anyone has a go this post is just our obsevation .
as anyone knows who ever stays at Liberation you can here everything through the walle of the rooms which i must admit can be a bit of a turn on. But we have heard numerous arguments between cpls about what went on in the club. Now i must let you all now that we decided when we first started visiting clubs that we would never swap and probably never will as we dont want the hassle of any fall a few saturdays ago we heard a very heated row going on in the next room and it seemed to be caused because the husband had cum in another woman. We could hear him saying that he did not now when he was going to cum and she was saying that she would never trust him again and that she stopped a man if she thought she was about to cum. Now correct me if im wrong here but, i found this hilarious. I dont profess to now what rules are amongst cpls but if a man does not now when he is cumming then he should see a doctor. Also if the woman stoppes being shagged when she is cumming then what are they doing swapping at all . I might be totally off the mark here like my spelling ! but this is just an example of arguments we have heard , others being along the lines of the male being more interested in another woman , or one which was funny was the male shagged another woman longer than he had ever done with his partner.
i now we arnt part of this scene as many of the cpls are on here but this just reiterates our decision not to swap even though the fantasy is there.
I now some will think these are random incidents but they do seem to happen every time.
thoughts plz
I gather this couple wasn't using condoms?.......we do full swap and love it but we always use condoms and if the other guy wants to cum in my partner thats fine so long as he has a condom on and the same goes for me !
What happened to safe sex??????
LOL
We must have posted at the same time da69ve...
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What happened to safe sex??????

Oh no not another discussion on safe sex and condoms lol
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LOL
We must have posted at the same time da69ve...

Great minds think alike!! lol
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I gather this couple wasn't using condoms?

That's what I thought at first, but reading the rest of the argument (at least as recollected and written on here) it would seem that him cumming whilst shagging another woman was what had upset her, whether it was in a condom or not. dunno
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We must have posted at the same time da69ve...

Great minds think alike!! lol
did you know that you;ve only quoted half of that saying??
The full saying goes 'Great Minds think alike, and fools seldom differ' :twisted:
Think possibly the original question might be translated into "are there rules govening full swap".
Sexualcpl, like ourselves, do not do full swap. So that is our limits, but what I think Sexualcpl overheard was a full swap couple who's boundaries were "don't cum with (or in) the other partner".
It was not a question about safe sex as such, rather asking full swappers if THEY have rules about climaxing with the swapped partner or wether they save the climax for their own partner.
So, if I have not confused everyone as much as I feel confused, do the full swappers have these restrictions?
John
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Think possibly the original question might be translated into "are there rules govening full swap".
Sexualcpl, like ourselves, do not do full swap. So that is our limits, but what I think Sexualcpl overheard was a full swap couple who's boundaries were "don't cum with (or in) the other partner".
It was not a question about safe sex as such, rather asking full swappers if THEY have rules about climaxing with the swapped partner or wether they save the climax for their own partner.
So, if I have not confused everyone as much as I feel confused, do the full swappers have these restrictions?
John

I know what your saying......i just find it very odd that a couple will do full swap but leave the cumming to their own partners......saying that what if a woman is about to cum does she tell the guy to stop so not to upset the husband??.......thats why i thought this was a condom issue at first.
Must admit reading the gist of the overheard argument, I too have to wonder what this couple get out of full swaps....... I thought the whole idea of sex (sex not love) was to give and receive pleasure,and that would include cumming.
I agree with safe sex (we only do safe sex with others), but for us the line would be too tightly drawn if it stopped us cumming with someone else...
I can never understand couples who row over swinging, its supposed to be fun, now if you set the rules down b4 you start there should be no reason to fall out in public, as for falling out because of cumming and where you come thats just pathetic, if i couldn't cum where and when i wanted during sex i wouldn't bother swinging and if we ever got to the point we had a bust up in a club then to me that would be the time to pack up
Interesting post.
It seems that some couples, however they choose to swap, agree that they will not cum with anyone else except their own partner confused
Cue one of my (not so) interesting swinging anecdotes :giggle:
I was in the couples room at Cupids once. A lot of swapping and playing around was going on between virtually all of the couples in the room.... in fact, it was developing into a very interesting time :rascal: . I was playing with a couple and the guy from another couple, who's partner was looking on at the action. Anyway, I was sucking the guy and he came on my face :P . At this, his partner took a huge strop, and she stomped... as much as you can stomp off a bed where people are playing all around... and sat facing away from everyone at the edge of the bed. He went over and what ensued was a row, in whispers :shock: . I was blameless of course and carried on playing flipa --- well, no-one told me their rules, did they rolleyes . I knew he was going to cum, but if that was their particular rule, he should have stopped. Their row continued into the bar, and they left shortly after :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Perhaps they had agreed to only go so far with others and one had crossed the line. I would imagine both sticking to what you had agreed, in terms of trust and setting bondaries you both are confortable with, is quite important. I do however find it a bit odd that having sex with someone is ok, but letting them cum isnt. But that's just my take on it. We dont really know the full situation, but yeah..if you are arguing about it, deffo time to take a break, talk about it, and maybe pack it in if both of you aren't happy.
We have seen a similar row several years ago over the same thing, the guy cumming while shagging. But why shouldn't full swap couples have a set of rules? It's no more ridiculous to say don't cum than to say don't penetrate. People are in this scene for their own reasons and whatever rules and limits they set themselves should be respected. Personally we find the idea of soft-swing a little odd, but we wouldn't suggest that it isn't a valid way of enjoying yourself.
As to arguing in public, it's not uncommon but usually happens when one or both partners are pissed. It's not pleasant to witness and often it seems to be couples that are new to the scene and still finding their way that do it. If you go to any pub on a Saturday night you are likely to see the same sort of thing though, so it's not neccessarily swinging that makes people behave badly.
In my honest opinion i find the thought of not being able to cum inside someone else whilst swinging very odd.....putting it blunt you cock's in another woman's pussy,what difference does it make if you cum in her, just as personal has oral sex is on a woman by making her cum!
We met a couple many years ago, one time they came out to our house, we had met a few times but never played b4, now we wasn't new and nor was they, they had met a few couples b4 and had been to xtasia many times, anyway we was all in our bed room and me and Paul was playing away, as you do, when i noticed something was wrong....so looking around while still sucking on this guys cock lol i suddenly realised that they was watching each others every move, and when i gave the guys a bj she gave Paul one in a sort of its ok now cause they doing it way confused anyway i played on this 4 a while doing verious things to see if she followed.....which she did :? very very strange i thought lol anyway to cut a long story short he cum, she cums and he hit the roof, telling us she wasn't allowed 2 cum with anyone else but him, (but it was ok that he just cum with me rolleyes ) so off they stomp to my bathroom and have the mother of all bust ups, which of course i listerned to at the door, hey its my fecking house if i wonna ear drop outside my bathroom door i will ok :lol: , they i hear the slap sound and though of fuck hes hit her, at this point trying to bash the door down to go to her aid, only 2 walk in and see him stood there nose pouring with blood and her walking out muttering to herself :roll: was a strange night :lol:
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We met a couple many years ago, one time they came out to our house, we had met a few times but never played b4, now we wasn't new and nor was they, they had met a few couples b4 and had been to xtasia many times, anyway we was all in our bed room and me and Paul was playing away, as you do, when i noticed something was wrong....so looking around while still sucking on this guys cock lol i suddenly realised that they was watching each others every move, and when i gave the guys a bj she gave Paul one in a sort of its ok now cause they doing it way confused anyway i played on this 4 a while doing verious things to see if she followed.....which she did :? very very strange i thought lol anyway to cut a long story short he cum, she cums and he hit the roof, telling us she wasn't allowed 2 cum with anyone else but him, (but it was ok that he just cum with me rolleyes ) so off they stomp to my bathroom and have the mother of all bust ups, which of course i listerned to at the door, hey its my fecking house if i wonna ear drop outside my bathroom door i will ok :lol: , they i hear the slap sound and though of fuck hes hit her, at this point trying to bash the door down to go to her aid, only 2 walk in and see him stood there nose pouring with blood and her walking out muttering to herself :roll: was a strange night :lol:

Do you have this effect on everyone then ? rotflmao ;)
Minx x x
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We met a couple many years ago, one time they came out to our house, we had met a few times but never played b4, now we wasn't new and nor was they, they had met a few couples b4 and had been to xtasia many times, anyway we was all in our bed room and me and Paul was playing away, as you do, when i noticed something was wrong....so looking around while still sucking on this guys cock lol i suddenly realised that they was watching each others every move, and when i gave the guys a bj she gave Paul one in a sort of its ok now cause they doing it way confused anyway i played on this 4 a while doing verious things to see if she followed.....which she did :? very very strange i thought lol anyway to cut a long story short he cum, she cums and he hit the roof, telling us she wasn't allowed 2 cum with anyone else but him, (but it was ok that he just cum with me rolleyes ) so off they stomp to my bathroom and have the mother of all bust ups, which of course i listerned to at the door, hey its my fecking house if i wonna ear drop outside my bathroom door i will ok :lol: , they i hear the slap sound and though of fuck hes hit her, at this point trying to bash the door down to go to her aid, only 2 walk in and see him stood there nose pouring with blood and her walking out muttering to herself :roll: was a strange night :lol:

Do you have this effect on everyone then ? rotflmao ;)
Minx x x
no only welsh people :twisted:
pmsl! kiss
Minx x x
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what difference does it make if you cum in her,

Obviously it must make a difference to the people that have that rule. I imagine they are keeping something special for each other just like soft-swingers seem to do over penetration. Each to their own.
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what difference does it make if you cum in her,

Obviously it must make a difference to the people that have that rule. I imagine they are keeping something special for each other just like soft-swingers seem to do over penetration. Each to their own.
Yes but it just sounds so odd....they must at least tell the couple they are having sex with this little rule of theirs.....say you are giving oral sex to another woman and all of a sudden she yanks your head away saying "you can't make me cum" well i would be dumb struck or your partner is having sex with the guy and all of a sudden he pulls out and says "i'm not allowed to cum in you"....i think it would put a dampner on the sitiuation.I personally would not like to swing with people like these,it just wouldn't be fun!!
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Yes but it just sounds so odd....they must at least tell the couple they are having sex with this little rule of theirs.....say you are giving oral sex to another woman and all of a sudden she yanks your head away saying "you can't make me cum" well i would be dumb struck or your partner is having sex with the guy and all of a sudden he pulls out and says "i'm not allowed to cum in you"....

We would just turn over and start on the next couple a little earlier than planned. lol :lol: :lol:
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We would just turn over and start on the next couple a little earlier than planned. lol :lol: :lol:

I like your style :giggle:
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Yes but it just sounds so odd....they must at least tell the couple they are having sex with this little rule of theirs.....say you are giving oral sex to another woman and all of a sudden she yanks your head away saying "you can't make me cum" well i would be dumb struck or your partner is having sex with the guy and all of a sudden he pulls out and says "i'm not allowed to cum in you"....

We would just turn over and start on the next couple a little earlier than planned. lol :lol: :lol:
Next! :lol:
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We would just turn over and start on the next couple a little earlier than planned. lol :lol: :lol:

I like your style :giggle:
Well you know what the dark room's like. There's less movement in a bucket of maggots. :lol: :lol: :lol:
One reason I've rather gone off clubs is that couples bring Rules of their own (often backed up by a belly full of bad-temper juice).... and of course on a chance meeting, you have no warning that these rules exist.
I once made a girl squirt, and her husband went bananas cos she'd promised never to do it with anyone else (how was she supposed to prevent it?).... and then he took his revenge by doing my GF doggy-fashion: at which his wife went into hysterics because it was "their" private position. Perhaps she thought they'd invented it.
I have seen men slapped in swingers' clubs for "looking at other women" (on a bed full of naked girls!), and a woman punched for kissing me goodbye - just a peck on the cheek - after she'd spent 20 minutes gobbling me knob.
In Chameleons one night I heard a bloke going on and on about his girl showing too much thigh... which seemed a bit excessive since all she was wearing was a towel round her waist, and her tits were sprawling all over the bar top.
There's nowt so queer as folk, but maybe swinging brings it out.
In my personal opinion
Swinging is almost fashonable now days, when we first started swinging there was only hand full of clubs and a much smaller group of swingers doing it, now day clubs are all over the place and more and more of them are filled with newbies who don't seem to know what they want or have a clue how to go about swinging, ok so i understand some coupes have to have rules, tho personally to me sex is sex and if i have sex i want to enjoy it not be 4ever held back by what i am allowed to do and what i'm not, our only rule is if you enjoy it do it and if you not happy give me the wink and we'll go, if other have to have what i see as silly rules like, no kissing, no cumming etc why do they bother, how can u possabily enjoy sex with a person that you cannot kiss or cum with, as for showing off to much body in a swinging club will that just taking the piss surely? lol
It seems like a lot of people jump straight into swinging just for the thrill without thinking about the impact it may have emotionally on them. They obviously weren't quite as emotionally solid with each other as they may have thought. I find it awful that someone would exact his revenge on his partner by deliberately breaking the rules to hurt them. That shows a real problem their in the relationship and it goes to show that swinging may just highlight problems in your relationship rather than add something fun to it.
If and when my fella and I get to our first swing, I appreciate we may never know how we will feel until we are there, but one thing is for sure, I would want him to completely enjoy himself. Im really glad Im on here taking my time though as i keep picking up great bits of info and advice on potential areas to be prepared for.
We have rules>>>>>>>>>
no kissing, no prenetration,no cuming, no touching anything on the other persons body that isnt a sex organ, use rubber gloves, lights out at all times, no sexy clothing.
woops sorry these are the ones we disregarded lol :lol:
seriously thou' the only rules we have are to do with 'who we swing with' safe sex and our secret code if either of us arn't happy with the situation.
Otherwise go for it smile