Hi. As most who read this will now we dont post too much and only really go to one club twice a month , and would by no means say we were hardened swingers, so before anyone has a go this post is just our obsevation .
as anyone knows who ever stays at Liberation you can here everything through the walle of the rooms which i must admit can be a bit of a turn on. But we have heard numerous arguments between cpls about what went on in the club. Now i must let you all now that we decided when we first started visiting clubs that we would never swap and probably never will as we dont want the hassle of any fall a few saturdays ago we heard a very heated row going on in the next room and it seemed to be caused because the husband had cum in another woman. We could hear him saying that he did not now when he was going to cum and she was saying that she would never trust him again and that she stopped a man if she thought she was about to cum. Now correct me if im wrong here but, i found this hilarious. I dont profess to now what rules are amongst cpls but if a man does not now when he is cumming then he should see a doctor. Also if the woman stoppes being shagged when she is cumming then what are they doing swapping at all . I might be totally off the mark here like my spelling ! but this is just an example of arguments we have heard , others being along the lines of the male being more interested in another woman , or one which was funny was the male shagged another woman longer than he had ever done with his partner.
i now we arnt part of this scene as many of the cpls are on here but this just reiterates our decision not to swap even though the fantasy is there.
I now some will think these are random incidents but they do seem to happen every time.
thoughts plz
I gather this couple wasn't using condoms?.......we do full swap and love it but we always use condoms and if the other guy wants to cum in my partner thats fine so long as he has a condom on and the same goes for me !
What happened to safe sex??????
LOL
We must have posted at the same time da69ve...
Think possibly the original question might be translated into "are there rules govening full swap".
Sexualcpl, like ourselves, do not do full swap. So that is our limits, but what I think Sexualcpl overheard was a full swap couple who's boundaries were "don't cum with (or in) the other partner".
It was not a question about safe sex as such, rather asking full swappers if THEY have rules about climaxing with the swapped partner or wether they save the climax for their own partner.
So, if I have not confused everyone as much as I feel confused, do the full swappers have these restrictions?
John
Must admit reading the gist of the overheard argument, I too have to wonder what this couple get out of full swaps....... I thought the whole idea of sex (sex not love) was to give and receive pleasure,and that would include cumming.
I agree with safe sex (we only do safe sex with others), but for us the line would be too tightly drawn if it stopped us cumming with someone else...
I can never understand couples who row over swinging, its supposed to be fun, now if you set the rules down b4 you start there should be no reason to fall out in public, as for falling out because of cumming and where you come thats just pathetic, if i couldn't cum where and when i wanted during sex i wouldn't bother swinging and if we ever got to the point we had a bust up in a club then to me that would be the time to pack up
Perhaps they had agreed to only go so far with others and one had crossed the line. I would imagine both sticking to what you had agreed, in terms of trust and setting bondaries you both are confortable with, is quite important. I do however find it a bit odd that having sex with someone is ok, but letting them cum isnt. But that's just my take on it. We dont really know the full situation, but yeah..if you are arguing about it, deffo time to take a break, talk about it, and maybe pack it in if both of you aren't happy.
We have seen a similar row several years ago over the same thing, the guy cumming while shagging. But why shouldn't full swap couples have a set of rules? It's no more ridiculous to say don't cum than to say don't penetrate. People are in this scene for their own reasons and whatever rules and limits they set themselves should be respected. Personally we find the idea of soft-swing a little odd, but we wouldn't suggest that it isn't a valid way of enjoying yourself.
As to arguing in public, it's not uncommon but usually happens when one or both partners are pissed. It's not pleasant to witness and often it seems to be couples that are new to the scene and still finding their way that do it. If you go to any pub on a Saturday night you are likely to see the same sort of thing though, so it's not neccessarily swinging that makes people behave badly.
In my honest opinion i find the thought of not being able to cum inside someone else whilst swinging very odd.....putting it blunt you cock's in another woman's pussy,what difference does it make if you cum in her, just as personal has oral sex is on a woman by making her cum!
One reason I've rather gone off clubs is that couples bring Rules of their own (often backed up by a belly full of bad-temper juice).... and of course on a chance meeting, you have no warning that these rules exist.
I once made a girl squirt, and her husband went bananas cos she'd promised never to do it with anyone else (how was she supposed to prevent it?).... and then he took his revenge by doing my GF doggy-fashion: at which his wife went into hysterics because it was "their" private position. Perhaps she thought they'd invented it.
I have seen men slapped in swingers' clubs for "looking at other women" (on a bed full of naked girls!), and a woman punched for kissing me goodbye - just a peck on the cheek - after she'd spent 20 minutes gobbling me knob.
In Chameleons one night I heard a bloke going on and on about his girl showing too much thigh... which seemed a bit excessive since all she was wearing was a towel round her waist, and her tits were sprawling all over the bar top.
There's nowt so queer as folk, but maybe swinging brings it out.
It seems like a lot of people jump straight into swinging just for the thrill without thinking about the impact it may have emotionally on them. They obviously weren't quite as emotionally solid with each other as they may have thought. I find it awful that someone would exact his revenge on his partner by deliberately breaking the rules to hurt them. That shows a real problem their in the relationship and it goes to show that swinging may just highlight problems in your relationship rather than add something fun to it.
If and when my fella and I get to our first swing, I appreciate we may never know how we will feel until we are there, but one thing is for sure, I would want him to completely enjoy himself. Im really glad Im on here taking my time though as i keep picking up great bits of info and advice on potential areas to be prepared for.