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Phuckers
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Quote by splendid_
...and the fields would be used for crops and other products.

Like growing artic trailers with adverts on? :P
that wasn't quite what I had in mind. rolleyes
i cant, am a carnibal i cant go without eating meat,i love salad and vege too,but some people are vegetarians for various reasons,some dont eat meat course they witnessed a slaughter or they dont just like the taste
Hilter was a vegetarian didnt stop him from killing his fellow human beings
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Quote by Phuckers
...and the fields would be used for crops and other products.

Like growing artic trailers with adverts on? :P
that wasn't quite what I had in mind. rolleyes
i cant, am a carnibali cant go without eating meat,i love salad and vege too,but some people are vegetarians for various reasons,some dont eat meat course they witnessed a slaughter or they dont just like the taste
Hilter was a vegetarian didnt stop him from killing his fellow human beings
I presume you mean that you are actually not a cannibal as that means you eat other humans. A carnivore is what meat eaters think they are. But that means you don't eat any vegetables, nuts, fruit, seeds etc. You are most likely an omnivore.
Phuckers
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Quote by splendid_
...and the fields would be used for crops and other products.

Like growing artic trailers with adverts on? :P
that wasn't quite what I had in mind. rolleyes
i cant, am a carnibali cant go without eating meat,i love salad and vege too,but some people are vegetarians for various reasons,some dont eat meat course they witnessed a slaughter or they dont just like the taste
Hilter was a vegetarian didnt stop him from killing his fellow human beings
I presume you mean that you are actually not a cannibal as that means you eat other humans. A carnivore is what meat eaters think they are. But that means you don't eat any vegetables, nuts, fruit, seeds etc. You are most likely an omnivore.
let me make it simple,i love eating meat
Peanut
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Quote by splendid_
You are most likely an omnivore.

All human beings are omnivores, some just choose to ignore sections of the menu.
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Quote by Peanut
You are most likely an omnivore.

All human beings are omnivores, some just choose to ignore sections of the menu.
thankfully not all humans are pedants. rolleyes
Peanut
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Quote by splendid_
You are most likely an omnivore.

All human beings are omnivores, some just choose to ignore sections of the menu.
thankfully not all humans are pedants. rolleyes
I don't always drive the car... I do walk around sunny Yorkshire villages sometimes :roll:
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Quote by Phuckers
...and the fields would be used for crops and other products.

Like growing artic trailers with adverts on? :P
that wasn't quite what I had in mind. rolleyes
i cant, am a carnibali cant go without eating meat,i love salad and vege too,but some people are vegetarians for various reasons,some dont eat meat course they witnessed a slaughter or they dont just like the taste
Hilter was a vegetarian didnt stop him from killing his fellow human beings
I presume you mean that you are actually not a cannibal as that means you eat other humans. A carnivore is what meat eaters think they are. But that means you don't eat any vegetables, nuts, fruit, seeds etc. You are most likely an omnivore.
let me make it simple,i love eating meat
Theres a thread about being bi somewhere :thumbup:
bolt
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Quote by Firelizard
I do eat meat, but I won't wear fur. I can't survive without eating but I can survive without a fur coat. Thats the difference between the two.
Love
Fire x

Thats true but you and I do not need meat to survive...Thats the difference.
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Quote by splendid_
...and the fields would be used for crops and other products.

Like growing artic trailers with adverts on? :P
that wasn't quite what I had in mind. rolleyes
i cant, am a carnibali cant go without eating meat,i love salad and vege too,but some people are vegetarians for various reasons,some dont eat meat course they witnessed a slaughter or they dont just like the taste
Hilter was a vegetarian didnt stop him from killing his fellow human beings
worship I presume you mean that you are actually not a cannibal as that means you eat other humans. A carnivore is what meat eaters think they are. But that means you don't eat any vegetables, nuts, fruit, seeds etc. You are most likely an omnivore.
:worship: :worship:
Phuckers
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
...and the fields would be used for crops and other products.

Like growing artic trailers with adverts on? :P
that wasn't quite what I had in mind. rolleyes
i cant, am a carnibali cant go without eating meat,i love salad and vege too,but some people are vegetarians for various reasons,some dont eat meat course they witnessed a slaughter or they dont just like the taste
Hilter was a vegetarian didnt stop him from killing his fellow human beings
worship I presume you mean that you are actually not a cannibal as that means you eat other humans. A carnivore is what meat eaters think they are. But that means you don't eat any vegetables, nuts, fruit, seeds etc. You are most likely an omnivore.
:worship: :worship:
i can see you are bored again
Phuckers
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Quote by winchwench
...and the fields would be used for crops and other products.

Like growing artic trailers with adverts on? :P
that wasn't quite what I had in mind. rolleyes
i cant, am a carnibali cant go without eating meat,i love salad and vege too,but some people are vegetarians for various reasons,some dont eat meat course they witnessed a slaughter or they dont just like the taste
Hilter was a vegetarian didnt stop him from killing his fellow human beings
I presume you mean that you are actually not a cannibal as that means you eat other humans. A carnivore is what meat eaters think they are. But that means you don't eat any vegetables, nuts, fruit, seeds etc. You are most likely an omnivore.
let me make it simple,i love eating meat
Theres a thread about being bi somewhere :thumbup:
bolt
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Peanut
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Quote by Phuckers
i cant, am a carnibal i cant go without eating meat

Well you did say you were born in the bush... bolt
Phuckers
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Quote by Peanut
i cant, am a carnibal i cant go without eating meat

Well you did say you were born in the bush... bolt
rotflmao
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In my opinion, fur clothing as a by product of a cull or a meat industry I dont have a problem with! It's the manner in which animals are culled! For example the beaver killed in the program was trapped using a gin trap! These traps were out-lawed in britain many years ago for being barbaric and cruel. The beaver drowned. it was not dispatched in a fast and humane way. This I am against. But it was killed this way (in my opinion) to ensure the quality of the pelt, this again i feel is wrong. A wild fox/ rabbit/ hare (delete as appropriate) shot or trapped in a clean way as a product of a cull needed to reduce population ( because us humans have wiped out all their natural predators) I would not have a problem with.
So basically I am against intensive fur farms but a more "natural" approach I am in favour of.
Koo xx
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I eat meat (free range) and have no problem with killing animals quickly for our use. However, the fur trade involves an enromous amount of suffering for many animals involved...often over long periods of time. Fur farms mean that mammals are cooped up in cages somewhat like our battery chickens. The mental and physical suffering is huge...and as others have said, other types of killing for fur are equally revolting.
Peanut
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If it's good enough for the mink to wear then it's good enough for us to wear!
rolleyes bolt
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I watched the programme last night and I was slightly surprised that I had mixed feelings as I was a vegetarian for 4 years and once felt really passionate about issues such like.
However, they took you around a Mink Farm in Denmark. I was surprised to see that the killing of the animals is, there, more humane than the abbatoirs we have here today. The whole of the Mink was also utilised so there was no 'waste' what so ever.
The issues being for me is not all farms are like that... over half of the worlds fur comes from China where they tend to torture, abuse and skin the animals alive
Because the fur retailers collect and auction fur from ALL types of farm.. and is collated and sold in colour matches rather than by farm.. you could never be sure your coat, etc has been sourced from a decent farm therefore supporting the cruelty in China.
If there was some way of enforcing regulations, or identifying a coat from a decent farm I personally would have no problem with it, although I'd not be fussed about owning a garment myself! Though I doubt it will ever be possible to differentiate so I have to remain against it.
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I think that when making reference to the mink farm you have to remember that there was 2 members of PR with the camera crew. It may have been a "staged" publicity it may not have been. but as it was such an efficient and humane system it makes it hard to believe that it is not done this way all the time. I suppose it depends if you want to take the farms word for it. confused
Koo xx
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Quote by Koogar
I think that when making reference to the mink farm you have to remember that there was 2 members of PR with the camera crew. It may have been a "staged" publicity it may not have been. but as it was such an efficient and humane system it makes it hard to believe that it is not done this way all the time. I suppose it depends if you want to take the farms word for it. confused
Koo xx

I know what your're saying.. but if it's that easy to do it humanely.. I don't see their reason for doing it any other way. Appreciated it's not like that everywhere, I think that's the reason why they were one of the only one's agreeing to be filmed
x
Firelizard
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Ok yes I agree you can survive without eating meat. I did for a whole 9 months whilst pregnant and suffered no ill effects whatsoever. I didnt feel healthier but I didnt feel unhealthy either..no different at all. This thread however was discussing the subject of wearing fur and then it went off on a tangent as we discussed the fact that some will not wear fur but they will eat meat. The two things are different subjects. I choose not to wear fur and choose to eat meat is maybe what I should have said.
I think that fur looks best where nature intended it on the animal.
In the program that this thread is about I understand that there was footage of a skinned fox that was still alive and blinking at the camera. :shock: I also have heard of cases where fur is obtained through slitting an animals throat and letting it bleed slowly to death. I will never again be a party to that. :cry:
The small amount of meat that I buy is bought from the farm that is across the lane from me. I know how the animals are treated and I know how they are killed. I know it is instantaneous death and that they don't at any stage of their lives suffer.(by that I mean as in a slow and painful death)
I don't judge anyone for eating meat, but I'm afraid I can't help it when they wear fur dunno I'm still judging myself badly for doing it in the early 80's ffs rolleyes
As an aside I also feel the same way about leather. I don't own leather shoes or bags.
xxx
PS I may well be vegetarian again though by the time this thread stops running as when I'm discussing it I always find the whole thing distasteful.
markz
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I think all women should shave......... rolleyes
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Quote by Samndave
Never have and never would wear fur, I prefer fur on the animals, looks a hell of lot nicer there...

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except mine rotflmao
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Quote by Whipsnspurs
i didn't watch this program on purpose.
i eat meat, always have done and probably always will do. it's what my teeth and body were designed to do. if others choose not to then fine i have no problem with that at all. just don't try shoving your ideas down my throat.
now i also use a vast amount of leather for my horses and those that i train. it's a byproduct of the meat industry so i have no problems with it. we insist on eating british only and preferably free range. we buy alot of our meat from our local farm shop so we know exactly where it has come from.
however, i would never knowingly wear fur for fashion. i don't see the need for it when there are perfectly good synthetics about. though i should say that i don't like fur as it's not my thing no matter where it comes from.
on the other side of it though. protesters should think about what they are doing more. there was a mink farm in doncaster. i've lived around the area for most of my life and never knew it was there. one night these idiots let all the mink loose! we now have a problem with them killing the other wild life.
the fur industry is sickening but as with alot of things i doubt it will be got rid of completely.
whips

Agreed.
Lets face it as far as I know and can remember ( no doubt somebody will correct me )the women who wear genuine furs, are really nothing more than snobbish, head up their arses people. The tally ho brigade, who get the drinks ready after the hunt on a Sunday. My opinion of course.
Years ago the only women who could afford mink coats were the " toff brigade "! Nowadays like a lot of things, it has fallen into the hands of people who do not have to be wealthy. Not the type of people who go to the local polo club, and hang out in posh circles, like it used to be.
There are more than enough synthetic materials now to wear, that a lot of the time you cannot even know real from fake. That being the case why wear real fur? dunno
Or is it still the toff coming out in people? cool If that is the reason, how sad then are these people?
anais
Sex God
Quote by Harveystu
I watched it, mixed views really. I dont think it got to the bottom of it all.
Lets face it, if you look at everything and how it is produced you would probably go mad.
Leather jackets, shoes, denim, = Killing cows, young kids in sweat shops.
It goes on and on and on and on..................

I agree with you!
I did find watching it quite painful. The part where they showed the foxes in china being skinned alive will stay with me a long time.
I watched the Blood, Sweat and Tears programme not long ago about the sweat shops in India. Fascinating for various reasons.
At the moment I'm reading a book about the production of chocolate. Learning things I never thought about before! Chocolate doesn't seem as sweet as it once did.
By the way, :welcome: to the forums wave