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Casanova
Quote by JTS
I think Atom is referring to some kind of structure to compare the voting list with votes cast. Not Mr plod at the polling stations.
I assume you mean to check who can vote, who has voted and who has not ?
If so, then that is already done at the voting station.
There are many people in the country that are not on the electrol roll. They are entitled to vote but they choice not to fill in the forms.. if you made not voting illegal, more people would choice not be on the electrol roll..
Casanova
Quote by brucie
Like a number of your contributors, who I must agree with, why are there so many time wasters on this site. I cannot understand the point of all the chat and promisses of arranging a meet and then NOTHING!!!!. I joined this site to meet like minded people and have some genuine "fun". Okay, there have been a few really nice, genuine people, but most are just messers. Why do they do it? If your not interested, why starty soemthing you do not intyend seeing tbhrough??? I too am in another site which does not suffer from this problem.
speaking of timewasters. why have you got straight male on your profile if youre looking for bi couples?
Bruce that does bring up a very good point .. Why do lots of couples and single profiles having looking for males or couples and then when you message you get a reply saying not looking for single males? Is that them being timewasting? Because of there poorly written profile am I not having my time wasted?
Casanova
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I personally do not think voting should be compulsory for the following reasons
Would increase the risks of voting fraud
Would occur policing cost
Would take away a freedom to vote or not vote
I believe people have the choice to vote or not vote. Forcing people to vote would just make people vote for the sake of it, not because they have a belief in one party or another.
There really is no benefit of forcing people to vote.
Atom,
well made points
- Would increase the risks of voting fraud. More voting would increase as a side effect, therefore conversely fewer voting would decrease fraud, but sadly not the 'fraud's that get elected.
- Would occur policing cost. How ? Policing costs are fixed / governed by numbers of polling stations, movement of votes and coverage of the count and are therefore a relatively fixed cost from election to election largely irrespective as to the turn out
- Would take away a freedom to vote or not vote And look where that has got us over the last several decades. The point being madde here is that people should vote, however their option is "None Of The Above", which also answers your final comment
There is a separate debate as to how people physically cast their vote, the creation of Electoral Registers of voters, etc. that needs addressing, alongside any around fixed term elections in Local and European government, as well as Regional Assemblies though not HM Government level.
It's the physical casting and creation of Electoral Registers where voting fraud is most prevalent, and whilst fraud in these areas does occur and the associated regulation & legislation is archaic, overall when compared against the votes cast now such fraud is a very small percentage and reform in these areas is ongoing.
Atom, many thanks to adding to the debate though
I think Atom is referring to some kind of structure to compare the voting list with votes cast. Not Mr plod at the polling stations.
Travis
You are correct Travis
What I was say was, if you made if law for everyone to vote, then you would need to police this law. Then you have the questions of what punishment you would give for breaking this law. Casanova
Quote by MidsCouple24
I have to ask what is your definition of a timewaster though?
From my experience what a male calls a timewaster and what a woman or couple call one are completely different ..
We all have our own idea of what a timewaster is, for us it is anyone who wastes our time be it 2 minutes or 2 hours.
We have experienced all types, from the single males who send us mails when our profile clearly states that we don't want them to contact us to the couples who mail us telling us they want to meet then, when you say yes, they dissapear into oblivion.
When we do arrange a meet we pull out the stops, prepare a buffet, get the extra drinks in, bathe and dress to impress etc.
The amount of times we have had to throw away most of the buffet is annoying, annoying but one of life's annoyances that is part and parcel of the scene, we get a little upset at the time but don't let it ruin our enjoyment of the lifestyle or our week.
Our most hated timewasters are the simple ones, those that don't even bother to read our profile, that means that they will contact us even though we are too old for them, too young for them, smokers, cannot travel or whatever thier personal criteria is and is not what we are. We respect people's criteria but it is annoying when people contact us and we have to reply saying "but we are outside your meeting criteria.
And our biggest annoyance comes from people who try to add us to thier friends list when we haven't even spoken, mailed each other, met or anything else, What is the thrill of having a huge friends list of people you don't even talk to ?
But it's all part of swinging and yes, people do get annoyed about it and yes people do like to let off steam about it, but that doesn't mean that they are letting it ruin thier lives or put them off being on swinging sites.
Is this just not a part of life though? Is it really something that is worth the time effort of complaining about?
If you owned a shop, would you be complaining about the people coming in with no real intention of buying anything?
Being on a site like this you are advertising yourself, and you will always get people responding to that advertising that you really do not want to.
Casanova
Quote by HnS
I personally do not think voting should be compulsory for the following reasons
Would increase the risks of voting fraud
Would occur policing cost
Would take away a freedom to vote or not vote
I believe people have the choice to vote or not vote. Forcing people to vote would just make people vote for the sake of it, not because they have a belief in one party or another.
There really is no benefit of forcing people to vote.
Atom,
well made points
- Would increase the risks of voting fraud. More voting would increase as a side effect, therefore conversely fewer voting would decrease fraud, but sadly not the 'fraud's that get elected.
- Would occur policing cost. How ? Policing costs are fixed / governed by numbers of polling stations, movement of votes and coverage of the count and are therefore a relatively fixed cost from election to election largely irrespective as to the turn out
- Would take away a freedom to vote or not vote And look where that has got us over the last several decades. The point being madde here is that people should vote, however their option is "None Of The Above", which also answers your final comment
There is a separate debate as to how people physically cast their vote, the creation of Electoral Registers of voters, etc. that needs addressing, alongside any around fixed term elections in Local and European government, as well as Regional Assemblies though not HM Government level.
It's the physical casting and creation of Electoral Registers where voting fraud is most prevalent, and whilst fraud in these areas does occur and the associated regulation & legislation is archaic, overall when compared against the votes cast now such fraud is a very small percentage and reform in these areas is ongoing.
Atom, many thanks to adding to the debate though
The costs I was talking about would be the costs that would be occurred in making sure people voted.
plus
How would you make people vote?
What would happen if people did not vote?
I am not sure what you mean about "look where that has got us over the last several decades" How would of forcing people to vote made any difference?
Generally the people that want this to come into force are the people that did not win in the last election. Instead of changing their polices that want to change the rules.
Casanova
Quote by Suaveone
Like a number of your contributors, who I must agree with, why are there so many time wasters on this site. I cannot understand the point of all the chat and promisses of arranging a meet and then NOTHING!!!!. I joined this site to meet like minded people and have some genuine "fun". Okay, there have been a few really nice, genuine people, but most are just messers. Why do they do it? If your not interested, why starty soemthing you do not intyend seeing tbhrough??? I too am in another site which does not suffer from this problem.
I have to ask what is your definition of a timewaster though?
From my experience what a male calls a timewaster and what a woman or couple call one are completely different ..
Casanova
Hi this is a topic that has been around for awhile, and it is one that will always be about as long as we live in a country where we vote.
I personally do not think voting should be compulsory for the following reasons
Would increase the risks of voting fraud
Would occur policing cost
Would take away a freedom to vote or not vote
I believe people have the choice to vote or not vote. Forcing people to vote would just make people vote for the sake of it, not because they have a belief in one party or another.
There really is no benefit of forcing people to vote.
I personally do not think voting should be compulsory for the following reasons
Would increase the risks of voting fraud
Would occur policing cost
Would take away a freedom to vote or not vote
I believe people have the choice to vote or not vote. Forcing people to vote would just make people vote for the sake of it, not because they have a belief in one party or another.
There really is no benefit of forcing people to vote.
Casanova
Quote by Islandcpl1
I dont think that I've seen such a fast U turn sinse 2 jags got lost sinse 2 jags got lost coming out of downing street.
Erm ... aaaa .... What ????? I think a rewrite is needed .. lol
Casanova
The only suggestion I have, is talk it though with each other properly and be very aware of all the risks !!
Sometimes fantasies are best left as that fantasies ...
Sometimes fantasies are best left as that fantasies ...
Casanova
Quote by cjuk1999
Closet gays I think lol
Nothing closet about them...
Driving about dogging spots look for men in cars ;)
You notice it is only men that they seem to be looking for .. lol
Casanova
I think you are just looking for reactions..
I think you believe any attention is good attention...
I think you believe any attention is good attention...
Casanova
I am very sure this has been done before. But I though I would bring it up again.
(VWE) Very Well Endowed is a term that is used a lot on sites like this. Though it is something that is non defined..
I know you are going to say size does not matter etc etc, but this post is not to discuss the issue of if size maters etc.
Also do you think terms such as VWE, BBW should be used by people as there is no really reference to what they really mean.
(VWE) Very Well Endowed is a term that is used a lot on sites like this. Though it is something that is non defined..
I know you are going to say size does not matter etc etc, but this post is not to discuss the issue of if size maters etc.
Also do you think terms such as VWE, BBW should be used by people as there is no really reference to what they really mean.
Casanova
Quote by Ben_welshminx
I already do. Futhermore I invest much of my spare time and energy in voluntary work. What I would like you and others to grasp is that my personal position and choices have no bearing on the validity of my opinions nor on my being allowed by you or any other self appointed forum guardian to express these opinions. That you are allowed to get away with these behaviours in a public forum that prides itself on not allowing intimidation or bullying beggars belief.
Will you 2 take your egos outside ...
Casanova
It was not long ago I was reading all about English pride, how people wanted to show that they were proud to be English, and that is why they were sporting english flags.
I was reading comments about how it was ok to do it in USA, France, Germany etc, but not here.
I saw posts like “I will take my flag down when you take your turban off “ etc
But now as I walk about and all the flags seem to have gone? Have all the people wearing turbans taken them off? Are all these people that were moaning not worried anymore?
I was reading comments about how it was ok to do it in USA, France, Germany etc, but not here.
I saw posts like “I will take my flag down when you take your turban off “ etc
But now as I walk about and all the flags seem to have gone? Have all the people wearing turbans taken them off? Are all these people that were moaning not worried anymore?
Casanova
Well we all really enjoy a good bump .. then any chance of some grind as well ? lol
Casanova
I think it would of been more of a shock if you did not get a slap.
Though I do think this is all a matter of context. We all say things in private or with people we know that we would not dare say to others or in public.
Some women enjoy being called a 'slut' during a hard session, though you would not say it to the shop assistant scanning your weekly shopping.
Though I do think this is all a matter of context. We all say things in private or with people we know that we would not dare say to others or in public.
Some women enjoy being called a 'slut' during a hard session, though you would not say it to the shop assistant scanning your weekly shopping.
Casanova
We should all be grateful that we live in a country where we are afforded the opportunities to become successful.
We should all be grateful that we live in a country where education is available to all
We should all be grateful that we live in a country where health is available to all
Though we often find it all too easy to take all this for granted. Even though it is easy to flick though the news and see the truth, see how lucky we are compared to most of the rest of the world !
We should all be grateful that we live in a country where education is available to all
We should all be grateful that we live in a country where health is available to all
Though we often find it all too easy to take all this for granted. Even though it is easy to flick though the news and see the truth, see how lucky we are compared to most of the rest of the world !
Casanova
Quote by Mal
As this is about dogging, then the correct forum is the Dogging forum, not the Cafe, so I've moved it.
have fun!
Mal
Thank you.. Though I did think it had gone completely at first .. lol
Casanova
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and mr b's is
onion
he loves it for some odd reason he loves typing it too
That is because mr b is mad .. lol
Casanova
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Fair points blue, why would folk work hard to earn money if those earnings were limited. Why do my neighbours work hard physical shifts for 11 grand a year? The answer to the second question is because they have no choice, well they do, many prefer to stay on benefits. Frankly who can blame them. My suggestion would give such people a more realistic choice and would solve all the foreigner/benefit scum whinge issues. The cost of course is that the rich would be less rich.
Tax can always be juggled to ensure there is enough coming in and imagine the saving on the benefits bill.
Ben have you ever thought of moving to Cuba? lol
Casanova
Quote by Dirtygirly
I know most smokers here comment on eating mints and chewing gum but as a non-smoker, I don't feel you are achieving much. You can smell it on someone because its on their clothes, skin and in their hair. There is no getting away from it.
Do I meet smokers........I have done but I'm not too sure I would now
Take their clothes off... pull them into the shower and shampoo their hair! :rascal:
I would love to do that to you ;)
Casanova
Quote by GnV
The suggestion of 30 grand per household. As a meber of a household with "earnt" income of more than 30k such a change would affect me my partner and our kids.
There are families round my way who would shovel shit for 12 hours a day 5 days a week for 30 grand a year household income in fact many many many of them do.
I hope that has cleared things up.
With the amount of shit that is generated daily in Wales, I should hope that 12 hours a day 5 days a week should be enough
Hold on. I thought you was in France? Shit capitial of the world... lol
Casanova
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Tea served in great big mugs.
Now the tea sounds like a good idea..
Should be free as well Casanova
Quote by Ben_welshminx
The suggestion of 30 grand per household. As a meber of a household with "earnt" income of more than 30k such a change would affect me my partner and our kids.
There are families round my way who would shovel shit for 12 hours a day 5 days a week for 30 grand a year household income in fact many many many of them do.
I hope that has cleared things up.
2 people working full time on minimum wage ( ) would earn about £25k a year. So basically you want everyone to work on about the min wage ?
Casanova
Because of the statement I made in a pervious reply may the title of this Post should be
EU Jobs for EU Workers ?
EU Jobs for EU Workers ?
Casanova
Quote by Ben_welshminx
The "bloody foreigners" taking our shit jobs whinge is as old as when ug turned to og and said those bastards in cave 27 have eaten all the mammoths.
I have a solution that will double the employment opportunites, we simply limit personal earning to 30,000 pa per household. Easily done with a tax system restructure including a 95% top rate and 100% inheritance tax. What do you think?
Sounds like you have been reading Carl Marx again .. hehe
