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Fran
Over 90 days ago
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Mal,
How many times do you need it spelling out to you? This is a forum.......people can post what they want, when they want within the rules of the forum......sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and you are the lowest form of life in my opinion.
I have had the misfortune of meeting you once, at the last NW munch, You made a snide comment that I didn't "look like my pictures "and totally ruined my night. I notice you still have the signature of "AKA the gent" well not in my experience....... Gentlemen know how to act in public, and know how to treat a woman, you dont. I know others who know you will disagree and thats fine, they have their opinion and I have mine. You made a snap judgement of me, this is my snap judgment of you!
Why dont you just back off, it is, because of people like you, and your attitude' that the genuine people are dropping out of the forum like flies. But who can blame them? I haven't posted for a while to for the same reason, and will stop for good now.
This kind of infantile behaviour just isnt worth it anymore, I have far more going on in my life to worry about.
This constant nit picking and slagging off sessions that you call "modding" is pathetic so I shall leave you to it, good luck to you.
I am not usually a person who would wish to upset, anger or hurt anyone, however Mal didn't think twice about making me feel like shit on his shoe so why should I? I had tried to leave all this behind me but after those unnecessesary comments I cant. I apologise to anyone else that this may offend. All my love to the wonderful people I have met on this forum.
Stop with the holier than thou bit........go on do the forum a favour.
From a very angry, upset, and thoroughly pis**d of with you and your attitude Fran
mad :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Bear.....you ......never seen you that way before !!!
I know I want a big bulge to impress the girls, but I gotta stop wearing pants 3 sizes too small
is that a tattoo on your leg, or do you need some discreet lady protection?
Does my bum look big in this ?????
(oops that should have been to my avatar, shouldn't it !)
Is Mr FC coming dressed like his avatar????? I do hope so..... :shock: biggrin rolleyes
Hiya Tiswas,
Maybe you should try searching for a web cam site, I am aware of one called webcamnow or something..... Give that a try.
Love Fran
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Quote by Sgt Bilko
Still waiting for the speech !!! :shock: rolleyes :roll: :roll: :roll:

Here, here......quite agree Sarge.....
SPEACH SPEACH SPEACH
Fran
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
hahahahahahahahahahaha
MEOW!!!!!!!!
Whoops just read that back...not quite saying as it sounded....sorry....I mean the numpties get fu*k all if you want one jags my dear..don't go there..lol!!!
Fran
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Sorry Jags but posting that you'd get what you deserve....just like all those numpties who do....don't go there!!
lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Fran
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Quote by Jags
Congratulations Jags .......Woohooo
When's the party then????
Love from Fran
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You mean you haven't been invited????? lol
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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
No......boo hoo, and my Betty dress soooo needs another outing .......
Fran
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Why make a choice.....
Why not have both!!!
Stu had both for his birthday ......come to think of it so did Fred
(see bottom of web page for details lol)
Love Fran
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So... did I fire five shots or did I fire six.....well.....you feeling lucky.....CAT???????
Congratulations Jags .......Woohooo
When's the party then????
Love from Fran
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Do the Mods do a good job....NO...they do an excellent job and help keep the site as it is meant to be. Do I know of all the unstinting work that goes on behind the scenes, YES, well actually I do, as I know the hard work and hours that the said Fred Flintstone has put in. That's one Mod, times that by the rest of them and the whole job is fu*king huge.
Do I have a problem with Mods...NO...Do I have a problem with rudeness and an arrogance (intentioned or not) by some against the posters of the "one liner fuck me now" type, YES I bloody well do.
Do I have a problem with anything else on this site NO!
I feel that I may well be one of a number to whom the snide comments etc that have crept into this thread are directed against. Well in my defence, if my concerns about the Mods posting "name and shame" were so wrong, why was the thread altered? I know the Mods discuss such things, so why such a decision. If the Mods have only acted in the best interests of the site, why did their postings, mainly in "Lets Meet" look unwelcoming and superior? I say it only from being an impartial observer.
I am a trained historian, I look at the evidence and let it tell it's own story, I felt, as is clear, a number of others did that the berating of the "lets Meeters" was at times not in the best interests of the site or its members.
If the Mods are beyond reproach (even they are human and can make a mistake....personal feelings to take over etc) then why is there such a hullabaloo and all this defence? If I was wrong about the "name and shame" just tell me so and Mod as you see fit.
I thought I was allowed to pass an opinion and open up a debate in the Forum. I thought by its very name that it was supposed to be a place to chat, discuss, debate, maybe even argue at times. Maybe I was wrong. If so, I apologise to anyone that felt my passing of an opinion was untoward.
I do not believe I actually insulted any Mod, though I did challenge the actions as an open user of the Forum. My challenge led to a change in a particular thread, hopefully for the better upon reflection, is that not good interaction between Mods and Roomies?
The Mods appear to feel under attack and I feel like a very close friend of mine may be stepping back from his role as a Mod in part due to my posts. My posts were never meant to do that to anyone, least of all someone with whom I share a close bond ( and share wives..lol).
I simply spoke as I found ( and I know Fred respects that) and maybe my challenge was too much and opened up a larger can of worms (euuuuggghhhhh) that was never meant to be opened.
My beef was with the method not the Mods, I do appreciate all that they do and I know Fran has asked Mods to act on her behalf with some numpties we have had...and all thanks and credit due for their diligence. I mean that in all sincerity.
I once said that I thought I ought to stop posting in the Forum and Mark said that I shouldn't and that the forum needed posters like me. Once again though, I feel like I should make a personal exit and will do so.
We (Fran and myself) have had the good fortune of meeting a few Mods and Sys Ops and we have thoroughly enjoyed their company and humour. I hope I caused you no offence, cos none was ever intended.
Enjoy the Forum you guys, it is still the best around and will continue to be so I am sure.
By the way...Wilma...its always Wilma....Daphne doesn't have a look in...see you soon sweetie xxxxxxxx
Fred my man, you DO NOT dare leave, the Forum needs you! (Glass of Shiraz Sir?)
Cheers
Stu...of the Fran and....well it'll just be Fran from here on in.
Is that a nipple or are you just pleased to see me !!
Quote by northamptoncpl
We just wanted to reply to this thread, and we have also just read the post by Fred (about him possibly hanging up his moderating boots).
We wanted to make sure that our views were clear - for what their worth.
we think the moderators do a good job. we appreciate that they will often do it without thanks. we know that the veterans of the site will have formed friendships (surely that is one of the benefits of being part of this community?). we dont consider such friendships as a clique.
the only thing that has aggravated US in the last few weeks is the flaming of the "flybys". This IS done by people who consider themselves "elite". Either delete it or ignore it. What is the point of doing anything else. It is childish to make snide comments - and it makes the site look unwelcoming (even if it is unwelcoming to the dodgy guy who just wants a quick, cheap lay)
This is all we have to say, and I am glad that we are not the only people that have noticed this.
Just for clarity, the moderators rock - they do a fantastic job biggrin
Please do not take 1 issue as an attack on the general high quality of the moderating. We do not even believe this is an issue that has anything to do with moderating - as these attacks are perpetrated by all types of member.
But any kind of flaming in the forum leads to alienate members - and we would rather it didnt exist.
So finally: we hate flaming, we love moderators! hurrah

Nicely put guys....
Fran & Stu
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Quote by WilmaFlintstone
Betty Rubble was truly sex and I suspect amazing in bed, why else do you think Barney always had that lobotomized smile on his face. .

I hate to burst the bubble of those of you that like Betty Rubble. I have it on good authority that she was nothing but a dirty hoe. She had the most awful vaginal warts, bad breath, hairy arse and never cut her toenails. She was known as Bedrocks park a cock.
As for Barney and that lobotomized smile on his face.........well of course he was always smiling.......he was shagging ME!!!!
(Just for the record.... We have met a real Betty and Barney, well sort of, and they are luverrrrly!!)
Love
Wilma
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When I first read this, I panicked....
What the fcuk have I done to deserve this?
Was my Betty dress that bad?????
OK, dirty hoe, maybe I could read that in a nice way!!!! smile
And if you had put trailor park then fair enough wink , but not park a cock surely...... mad :x
I was just about to shove the kids in the car and come and kick your arse..... grrrrrrr evil :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
THEN....I read the last line, and Wilma I hope to god you meant me, redface or else I am going to have to open a can of whoop ass on you lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
Love Fran
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PS....Oh shit the shotgun is out again........run for your lives.....run.......RUN
Excellent post Sarge, and incisive comments from both IcePie and ManAlive. I do agree that the atmosphere has changed a little and I expect that is in some part due to the Collymore incident.
However, in spite of that I believe that IcePie has made some crucial observations regarding the Forum and its' "Modding" or "Policing" thereof of late. Some Mods have in my humble opinion overstepped the "Modding" line when they have in effect, personally abused people for their posts. I refer mostly to the "Lets Meet" section, but it has occurred in the other Forums too.
I was particularly concerned by the name and shame style threads and then the obvious piss takes at the "fly by" shag merchants, the one line meet ups and the ones who may not express themselves too well. I thought it felt, like Ice Pie said
a poorly disguised air of superiority toward new arrivals. A sort of "prove to us that you are worthy" attitude.

I appreciate why the constant naff posts might wind people up, but I felt the methods employed over this past week in particular, were so rude and obnoxoious that I have actually refrained from posting in the Forums. Fran, has continued to post, but with increasing awareness of factions developing as Sarge pointed out. I just cannot see the reason to be rude to anyone unless they are rude to the members or the site in some way.
The piss takes etc have actually dominated the site over the last week and it is clear that some Mods, ably abetted by many others, have relished the opportunity to demean those who have posted in an ill-advised method. As has been said before, in the wide world of swinging, someone might find that approach attractive and who are we to say that the one liners are wrong, it does work for some.
I know that some Mods will jump up and down about this and trot out the arguments as they have been all week, but I am posting this with no axe to grind, but as an open-minded user of the Forum. I would say I know the place fairly well, and I found it unwelcoming and definately off-putting to newbies, it did not feel like the community of liberal minded, forward thinking adults that most swinging communities are. Therefore I chose not to post, though many times I dearly would have liked to. I felt that the Forum was becoming a place merely for abuse and not fun.
I would have continued in my refrain from posting had it not been for Sarge's well considered post which I felt deserved comment and support. As for now, I will again look from a distance and wait, till this "personal" policing ends and we get back to a more welcoming community for ALL.
Stu...of the "Fran and...." Variety.
Quote by hertsdogger
The standards of the press in this country make me laugh.

Quite agree hertsdogger, but what worries me more than the standards of the press are the standards of the readers, sometimes I gasp at what a godforsaken country we inhabit!!!! You are quite right, we as swingers get looked down upon by the press and their readership, whilst they are all getting off on the peurile reporting that titillates their tiny brains and even tinier genitalia!!!
lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Fran
Funny enough, I was on the New Mini site forum page the other aft and all they were talking about was SWINGING....
funny ol' world eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wink :wink: :wink:
Fran
Quote by Moist
gman xx
A 172 is the model car I own...a Clio 02 model...
Fran,
The reason I got the tyres & wheels so cheap is I worked in the car modding & tuning trade for 14 years so know quite a few people ...the tyres are not cheapos but yokohamas which are superb but I tend to get thru a few as I do track days in the car..
I drive too fast & too many miles to be anything but safety orientated...
Jaine xx

I refer the honorable member to the reply I made a few postings above.
Fran
And then there is the danger that we are supposed to be the enlightened ones of the social community, the ones who can see outside of the social "norms" that so many want to place on us. And then what do we do? We go and create a stereotype of the sort of person/advertiser/poster "we*" want here.
Are we not sending the wrong signals out? Educate by all means, direct, cajole and encourage a better standard of posting/advertising etc, but to take the piss is not just rude and superior, it smacks of hypocracy. We can be rude, belittle you, pick on your level of education or understanding of swinging, but forbid that you should post a one liner that we might might take offence to.
Live and let live....it might not do it for you...but it may for someone. When we first joined the site our first postings were in "Lets Meet" and consisted of the one line variety. Had we had the same sarcastic treatment we would no longer be here, have to say it really does suck. Surely the "Lets Meet" section is for the short, I'm available, are you? style posts. If not, what is the point of the ads section? If we are expected to drivel on in "Lets Meet" then lets lose the ads section. Surely its purpose is to begin a dialogue within a fairly small time frame, ie Midday for tonight etc. it serves a purpose, this piss taking and rudeness does not.
Enough from me, I think Stu said enough on the last thread about "name and shame", needless to say we both think this approach is far more damaging than the "easyshag merchants" mediocre postings.
Fran
* According to some of the Mods and a number of posters here*
Gman,
A 172, is a car , a Clio 172. Designed by Renualtsport, its quite a nifty little number, the 172 is from the bhp it has.
Reiki is my passion, it is a complimentary therapy. A bit of a healing hands thing which some people may poo poo, but it makes me feel wonderful.
Love Fran
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Quote by Moist
I went to buy some silver bulbs for my car that cost & came away with a new set of alloys & tyres at a cost of £520....Whoops. confused
But my car is my passion/hobby & I spend all my extra cash on him... :color:
What is your indulgance ...that you just cant stop yourself buying - even something as simple as CD's etc..which also take a lot of my money ?
Jaine

I used to own a 172, and sorry to say but if I paid £520 for a set of alloys and tyres I doubt I would ever have pushed it over 70 again or turn off the traction control (bloody spoilsport that invention), last time I bought a set of new tyres for it, it cost nearly £650 and that didn't include alloys! Remember, at the end of the day the only thing in contact with the actual road are your tyres...don't skimp on em!
My new passion is my Reiki and my latest car.
Fran
Quote by Alexandra
Dont worry about it, its hard to start off in here.

Hmmmm Fran....
Does that mean it get's softer the longer you stick around in here?
maybe not much of an encouragement for our male contingent to stay.
Hugs, Alex x x x
No Alex, the longer you stay the more you learn you have to stand up for yourself!!
Love Fran
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