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Louise4Darren
2 months ago
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Straight Female, 51
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Quote by Dave__Notts
A theorist or debunker make it up? All of it? The photos, the physical evidence, the witness testimony? The thing they differ on is theory.......and if you look at the word, I wonder what theory means dunno
Now if the Truthers only state the truth then that makes them a scientist. Any good scientist will only publish what they can prove. If they cannot prove it then they make the statement "We do not know".
Now can see where I cannot get what you are trying to say?
If the truthers have this evidence then they can bring a private case. Why have they not done this. This is what makes me err on the side of caution with all of this. You have thrown some theeories out there but if the evidence is that strong why have they never brought charges?
Dave_Notts

my answer to that is
if the families of 911 fail to get an independent inquiry what chance has a private case have?
If the american gov refuse to give its own people justice....what chance does anybody have against these people. There would have been a blank cheque available for the inquiry if i was mr bush. But he obviously thought spending billions on a war was more important than finding the truth. Now doesn't that ring alarm bells. I got no theory but think this alone needs investigating but obama (which is the same person as bush in policy) is keeping the 100ft wall around the whole affair as did bush. Dont you think the non published pentagon plane (ha ha ha) crash photos have something to hide? I think so thats why they still have not been published.
Quote by Dave__Notts
Go missing for a day and a page and a half gets written.
Darren, now you are saying there are three groups looking at this? Debunkers, truthers and theorists. The theorists and truthers say the same thing so it is just two.
The photos of the cut steel does not need a debunker to ask the questions, as by looking at them I came up with a similar one. When were they taken? It is a simple enough question and a simple enough answer should follow. It even had a rescue worker in the foreground so he could corroborate your story.
You have said that no wreckage was found. NIL posted photos of the pentagon covered in plane wreckage. Was that faked?
You also stated that an aircraft flew into the Towers with a bomb attached. Where is it?
I ain't a debunker or theorist or truther. Just a normal person who sees a story and asks questions. When the answers come back as gobble-de- or mysteriously silent then I have doubts on their validity.
I was told "If it looks like shit and smells of shit then it usually is shit." Until proof and not faith is put forward then I won't believe.
Dave_Notts

firstly you got it wrong
debunkers and theorists make it up with little evidence
truthists are looking for the truth
secondly did you watch the video showing the metal work dribbling outside the cut
thirdly get me evidence of plane crash debris at the pentagon (not the image of the little piece of blue and white twisted metal which isn't even scorch marked that will not do) Also any idea where the plane dissapeared too...dont you even mention the word vaporised by fuel those engines would have took ages under sustained high temperatures to melt.
4- considering the pentagon and and surrounding area is the most watched in the world per square foot(via cctv) where is the debunkers (or theorists) videos or photographs of the plane strike. Oh there isnt any only four or five frames released by the pentagon. And guess what it doesnt show any plane.
So a message for all debunkers and theorists please stop dreaming as your hindering the truthists movement in getting justice for the victims.
" Until proof and not faith is put forward then I won't believe". same here but do you honestly believe that on the day of 911 dozens of valid so called coincidences happened?
you never got back to explain the residual thermite in the dust.
why was the inquiry done with little money compared to clinton and monicas scenario?
planes vaporising with jet fuel but mohammed attas passport found intact lol crazy.
but there you go it prooves what i have and will continue to say about debunkers and theorists are just the same. Debunkers duck and dive but are on the governments side theorists duck and dive but are against the government but truthists want the truth and whoever is to blame be brought to justice.
Quote by Bluefish2009
Sounds like a sensible idea to me
What do people here feel?

My view is that the large majority of rural homes are set in a cpl af acres with 6 bedrooms 4 bathrooms a bagatti vayron parked outside......looks like one class of people who mostly gain from this.....the rich.
Quote by Dave__Notts
The new government are trying to get rid of all traces of the last ruling party. This has happened in the past with defeated dictatorships. Get rid of the party leader and those closely associated with them and then start again.
Is it right or wrong? Their country, their decisions.
Personally I don't think hanging is the best punishment. I would have preferred Sadam to sit in a cell for 20 years and think about his actions, same with this chap.
Dave_Notts

i will second that one dave but i would have said 40 years
Quote by Hubbley
Truely people don't realise what a mess he made of the coutry and the legacy he left behind and also that he's still riding the crest of the wave witha 12 million pound a year income. A truely selfish individual.

A truely selfish individual who should be dragged to the hague with that heartless lier of a critter bush. they are war criminals just like Hitler was
Nothing "unexplained" happened.
If you thought it was unexplained then its quite plain you did not understand what happened, a vast difference.[/quote
was you on mars when 911 happened?
Quote by Louise4Darren
About 911
only three steel structures in history have fallen due to fires and they fell on September 11th, now that is 1 hell of a coincidence.

Maybe the coincidence is the fact that 2 of them are the only steel structures of that type to have been hit ( as far as I'm aware) by airliners fully laden with aviation fuel and the third was in very close proximity? dunno
aviation fuel burned off straight away as everyone seen in a great fireball.
To melt the steel in the towers would have needed a temp far exceeding the fireball and sustained for quite some time
Quote by eddieb

eddie b im going to answer for the debunkers
COINCEDENCE
lol
cut at right angles just like demolition crews do
Quote by swcpl2005
10 out of 10 for persistence, but a big fat zero for providing any evidence.
Slow down and freeze the second plane strike and let us know whats strapped to the bottom of the plane?

I did as you requested. You do know what a wing belly fairing is and its function with regards to the main landing gear don't you?
My advice: when in a hole, stop digging.
i did look at photos of the said plane and guess what it ain't got one visible...go look yourself don't believe my word only then will it hit home.
im after the truth not an excuse or story
Quote by robbo-bi1

I am not in total disagreement with you, my problems lie with WT7 wink

So what exactly are the exact problems with WT7? The debunking link said a lot of why WT7 collapsed. Which bits are you unsure of?
Dave_Notts
Very simple for me Dave, unable to back this up with data or an explanation, it fell in a way that is way too perfect. For demolition crews it takes years to learn how to place charges in all the correct places and they all need to go of at the exact correct time to cut the steel structure at the correct time, or they topple one way or another, for this to all happen by an accident is very difficult to comprehend.
we also see more and more professional's who do understand buildings and there demolition, questioning the official storey
There is another thread in the forums talking about how gut feelings are so often correct, my gut instinct is some thing about WT7 does not add up! :wink:
Can you explain how this all took place.
The terrorist`s hijack planes and crash them into the twin towers, and it just so happens that the US government had a plan to blow up WT7 on exactly the the same day.
The planes they had no knowledge of, just happened to hit the twin towers next door.
The towers were designed and built using a method no other buildings had used on this scale.
Fuel heated the steel to failure point the structural strength failed, and gravity did the rest.
WT7 sustained severe damage from debris of the twin towers, it burnt out of control then fell down.
As the meerkat says "SIMPLES"
definatelly got to call the new towers the coincidence towers
Quote by cuckold4u
.........of all places to discuss this conspiracy theory lol! a lot of people on here have enough issues in their lives without confusing and frightening them with big truths.....as for no evidence there are a number of great documentary's around, just open your dammed eyes.....oh and by the way did you hear some conspiracy fruitcakes actually believe the world is ROUND!! lol where's the proof? we all know its flat and you fall off the edge if you sail too far.

in a nut shell cuckold4u lol
The thing I notice for the "evidence" photos are when did they get taken? After the collapse and clear up when the girders needed cutting down, were they used then? Or cutting torches after the collapse? The photos in themselves prove nothing of substance.
Dave_Notts[/quo
surprise surprise dave i nearly got there before you damn i knew what you were going to say its exactly like listening to a theorist except the other way around....lol
Quote by Dave__Notts
The conspiracy theories are red herrings.....it is irrelevant who planned and carried out the attacks the result is still with us,there remains in certain sections of the west the will to curb the influence of the Muslim east there remains in certain sections of the east the will to curb the influence of the Christian west...we can only be thankful that on the whole the muslim world did not react as planned and ashamed that the we did

Is that all of the West Staggers or just some? When you say we, does that include yourself.
I do not blame Islam.
I blame those people who crashed the planes and planned it, who as an aside were Islamic.
Dave_Notts
Are you sure your surname isnt bush?
In the years since ive been seeking the truth it leads me to believe that white skin caused it not brown skin.
Quote by Bluefish2009

I am not in total disagreement with you, my problems lie with WT7 wink

So what exactly are the exact problems with WT7? The debunking link said a lot of why WT7 collapsed. Which bits are you unsure of?
Dave_Notts
Very simple for me Dave, unable to back this up with data or an explanation, it fell in a way that is way too perfect. For demolition crews it takes years to learn how to place charges in all the correct places and they all need to go of at the exact correct time to cut the steel structure at the correct time, or they topple one way or another, for this to all happen by an accident is very difficult to comprehend.
we also see more and more professional's who do understand buildings and there demolition, questioning the official storey
There is another thread in the forums talking about how gut feelings are so often correct, my gut instinct is some thing about WT7 does not add up! :wink:
So as you have said it takes years to perfect the demolition of a building. Can you answer me then, how did they plant the demolitions, cut through supports and prepare the building for demolition without anyone knowing at all? All the demolition experts have testified that it takes about 2+ weeks to prepare a building like that and thats in full view of everyone.
Whena building is blown there is always bits of evidence all around to show it was blown. The truthers try to say that a super duper new explosive that leaves nothing was used.......or an alien craft came down and gave it a zap without anyone seeing dunno
Gut feelings are one thing, jumping to the wrong conclusion is another.
Dave_Notts
I have not jumped to any conclusion, in fact, quite the opposite, I am reserving judgment on some thing I feel has yet to be fully explained
The explosive is thermite, thermate that I think you talk of, in action in this video;

This is an interesting video also

Newtons law

dont feel theres anything wrong in your questioning the events your just being a truthist who wants the truth. Dont listen to debunkers like dave and the theorists they both are feeding you false info
Quote by Dave__Notts

I am not in total disagreement with you, my problems lie with WT7 wink

So what exactly are the exact problems with WT7? The debunking link said a lot of why WT7 collapsed. Which bits are you unsure of?
Dave_Notts
Very simple for me Dave, unable to back this up with data or an explanation, it fell in a way that is way too perfect. For demolition crews it takes years to learn how to place charges in all the correct places and they all need to go of at the exact correct time to cut the steel structure at the correct time, or they topple one way or another, for this to all happen by an accident is very difficult to comprehend.
we also see more and more professional's who do understand buildings and there demolition, questioning the official storey
There is another thread in the forums talking about how gut feelings are so often correct, my gut instinct is some thing about WT7 does not add up! :wink:
So as you have said it takes years to perfect the demolition of a building. Can you answer me then, how did they plant the demolitions, cut through supports and prepare the building for demolition without anyone knowing at all? All the demolition experts have testified that it takes about 2+ weeks to prepare a building like that and thats in full view of everyone.
Whena building is blown there is always bits of evidence all around to show it was blown. The truthers try to say that a super duper new explosive that leaves nothing was used.......or an alien craft came down and gave it a zap without anyone seeing dunno
Gut feelings are one thing, jumping to the wrong conclusion is another.
Dave_Notts
Dave the evidence is there
traces of military grade thermite found in every inch of dust which fell on New York....oh im sure i got amnesia i keep forgetting the word coincidence. Have you also forgotten the six weeks a contractor was working in the towers elevator shafts with no sniffer dogs...argghhh shite sorry dave another coincidence. If the core columns had remained standing i might have fell for your debunking STORY about the floors pancaking. I could show you 100 photos of before and after shots of steel building infernos but debunkers have a knack of saying this word irrelevant. Debunkers are the opposite of theorists and guess what....they are both making up stories and throw out evidence to suit their cause. only truthists are anywhere near the truth.
Quote by Bluefish2009

I am not in total disagreement with you, my problems lie with WT7 wink

So what exactly are the exact problems with WT7? The debunking link said a lot of why WT7 collapsed. Which bits are you unsure of?
Dave_Notts
Very simple for me Dave, unable to back this up with data or an explanation, it fell in a way that is way too perfect. For demolition crews it takes years to learn how to place charges in all the correct places and they all need to go of at the exact correct time to cut the steel structure at the correct time, or they topple one way or another, for this to all happen by an accident is very difficult to comprehend.
we also see more and more professional's who do understand buildings and there demolition, questioning the official storey
There is another thread in the forums talking about how gut feelings are so often correct, my gut instinct is some thing about WT7 does not add up! :wink:
your forgetting the other 2 towers fell the same....oh i keep forgetting.....coincidence
i think the new towers which will replace the old ones should be called the coincidence towers after the amount of coincidences which the debunkers will have you believe happened that day.
Dave if your reading this why not become a truthist and demand a full independent inquiry for the sake of the murdered thousands....we owe it to them. your just helping the murderers hide their crimes by spreading garbage like the theorists. Both theorists and debunkers are a waste of space.
Quote by Dave__Notts

I am not in total disagreement with you, my problems lie with WT7 wink

So what exactly are the exact problems with WT7? The debunking link said a lot of why WT7 collapsed. Which bits are you unsure of?
Dave_Notts
debunking is just as far from the truth as the theorists
your names not dave bush by the way?
Quote by Bluefish2009
Nice pictures but not really relevant to the debate even if the structural design of the load-bearing elements was identical to that of the WTC as that hotel didn't suffer a catastrophic failure of a significant part of its load-bearing structure due to the amount of energy imparted following the impact of over 125,000kg of B767 flying at 400kts. It also didn't suffer the pan-caking of one floor onto another. It's time a lot of these non-believers/conspiracy theorists got themselves clued-up on the difference between static loads and dynamic loads to understand why the collapses occurred.
I'm leaving this thread now.

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I am not in total disagreement with you, my problems lie with WT7 wink
Hi
im afraid your wasting your time...debunkers are just as imaginative as theorists im a truthist myself.
If george bush came in front of the cameras and admitted he helped plot 911 the debunkers will be too busy debunking his story and the theorists to busy theorising.
Quote by swcpl2005
Nice pictures but not really relevant to the debate even if the structural design of the load-bearing elements was identical to that of the WTC as that hotel didn't suffer a catastrophic failure of a significant part of its load-bearing structure due to the amount of energy imparted following the impact of over 125,000kg of B767 flying at 400kts. It also didn't suffer the pan-caking of one floor onto another. It's time a lot of these non-believers/conspiracy theorists got themselves clued-up on the difference between static loads and dynamic loads to understand why the collapses occurred.
I'm leaving this thread now.

what puzzles us is what exactly are people like yourselves afraid of....maybe the truth? 100 million so called coincidences and you still would deny it.
Why was ground zero not sealed off as a scene of a crime????
Why was the remaining steel allowed to be removed to staton island the very next day????
Why was it sold to the Chinese immediately???
Why was the gold from one towers vault found in the back of a lorry under the other tower???
Why no full inquiry where every single witness gave evidence????
If as you say and the murderers across the pond it was all a coincedence then why are they afraid to have a second independent inquiry????
3 steel towers collapse the very same day in the same city??????
instead of helping the murders why not put your heads together with truthists (not conspiracy theorists) and come up with the truth for the sake of the 3000 or so poor souls who were murdered that day?????
Where are the other 2 planes wreckage...after all Lockerbys plane hit the ground just as fast and it left wreckage everywhere....in fact every plane crash in history has left wreckage except the 3 on 911..oh sorry i forgot...a coincidence.
how many coincidences will it take for the sheeple to wake up?
Quote by Dave__Notts
There was an experiment carried out on steel with a pit of burning fuel. To make it fail (not melt, not explode) took about 2 minutes. It was one of the experiments to kick the truthers in to touch........but they said it doesn't prove anything.
Hmmmmm come up with a theory, get it disproved and then dismiss it out of hand. This is why conspiracists are ridiculed
Dave_Notts

Dave
i would love a link to more info on what you claim so i can research it. But there was no pit of fuel in either of the twin towers the fuel exploded on impact.
Quote by Max777
About 911
only three steel structures in history have fallen due to fires and they fell on September 11th, now that is 1 hell of a coincidence.

Maybe the coincidence is the fact that 2 of them are the only steel structures of that type to have been hit ( as far as I'm aware) by airliners fully laden with aviation fuel and the third was in very close proximity? dunno
aviation fuel burned off straight away as everyone seen in a great fireball.
To melt the steel in the towers would have needed a temp far exceeding the fireball and sustained for quite some time
Quote by Rogue_trader
Nothing "unexplained" happened.
If you thought it was unexplained then its quite plain you did not understand what happened, a vast difference.

rogue
if life was as simple as you explained life on this planet would be so rosie
About 911
only three steel structures in history have fallen due to fires and they fell on September 11th, now that is 1 hell of a coincidence. Its impossible for a steel building to collapse at free fall speed...its got matter underneath to crush and collapse so cannot fall at free fall speeds unless the matter below was being destroyed by explosives. Next the tons of molten steel found under the debris a week after the collapse. How come the gold from the vaults at tower 1 were found in the back of a truck under building 2 after the collapse? Slow down and freeze the second plane strike and let us know whats strapped to the bottom of the plane? How come the firemen on the streets described the collapse as Boom Boom Boom Boom when the building was collapsing? Explain the large explosion in the basement that the caretaker gave an interview about which happened seconds before the first plane strike. Why did bush the murderer lie about when he first knew of the supposed attacks? Aint it also weird that his brother was on the board of directors of the security company which guarded the towers. Why were the sniffer dogs pulled out a few weeks before the supposed attacks. How come they couldnt find wreckage at the Pentagon as it was vaporised yet they found one of the supposed hijackers passports. Why are the Pentagon still refusing to release any footage they have showing a plane striking the building. I could go on for days asking questions.
Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million
HOW COME?
WHAT UPSETS ME IS WATCHING DEBUNKERS AND THEORISTS BATTLE AGAINST EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF COMING TOGETHER TO FIND THE TRUTH.
LAWFULL REBELLION ITS TIME TO SAY NO!
Hi
If you look around you will find that some people are saying its a plan to depopulate an already over populated planet while making pharmaceutical companies trillions of pounds. They make us believe that humans have mastered dna.....if so why cant they switch off cancer or switch on immune systems in aids sufferers? I will say 1 thing....if the queen of england contracted aids i wonder how quick a cure would come about? my belief is that yes humans have already got cures for certain cancers and aids but why save lives in an already over populated system.
Before anyone even shouts conspiracy theorist read below then go find the truth yourselves
The Georgia Guidestones is a large granite monument in Elbert County, Georgia, USA. A message comprising ten guides is inscribed on the structure in eight modern languages, and a shorter message is inscribed at the top of the structure in four ancient languages' scripts: Babylonian, Classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs.
The structure is sometimes referred to as an "American Stonehenge." The monument is almost 20 feet (6.1 m) tall if the buried support stones are included, exactly 18 feet (5.5 m) otherwise, and made from six granite slabs weighing more than 240,000 pounds (110,000 kg) in all. One slab stands in the center, with four arranged around it. A capstone lies on top of the five slabs, which are astronomically aligned. An additional stone tablet, which is set in the ground a short distance to the west of the structure, provides some notes on the history and purpose of the Guidestones.
A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.
1-Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
3-Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3-Unite humanity with a living new language.
4-Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5-Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6-Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7-Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8-Balance personal rights with social duties.
9-Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10-Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
Quote me if im wrong but maintaining a population below 500,000,000 means that 80% of us nust go.
hi
reading your reply im guessing you aint even seen the footage otherwise you wouldnt have answered the way you did. If you cannot bother to look for yourselves why comment. everyone i have showed the footage too agrees there is something strapped to that plane. yet some people are quick to ridicule without seeing it for themselves. If there was nothing strapped to that plane do you think id make a knob of myself knowing youd look and see nothing. look first then open your mouth. i dont mean to sound aggressive its simple....go and research the footage and you will see im telling you the truth. i dont know what it is but it is there. i got my reasons why the elite ordered 911 and ill give you a clue. elite/banks/trade centre/documents(paperwork files) come on its obvious
hi
ive been on the 911 debunk site before but how come you believe in that....with no evidence from the debunkers yet you totally dismiss evidence in front of your eyes. Still no answer about whats under that plane. If it was not a set up.....what the hell is an american airlines plane doing with something attatched to its belly? People say the american government would not sacrifice thousands of lives in a twin tower disaster yet year after year they sacrifice tens of thousands of its troops (vietnam for instance). the "New world order" speeches have come from Hitler,Bush senior, Bush junior, obama, tony blair and gordon brown. Why do you think they bailed the banks out? Its was not to help joe public, the New Labour Project (if it had joe publics interest at heart)would have given the billions to joe public to pay off his/her debs to the bank. But instead choose to give it to the banks to keep us in debt. WHY? Also why was the bank of england funding the nazi party and allowed to do so during world war 2, look this up its fact not fiction. The truth is were all slaves to the elite and one last question....how come all of the elite are members of free mason lodges who practice occult rituals? everything ive said is fact...video footage to proove, but debunkers get believed with no evidence only the words of so called experts whom nobody ever heared about or are on the elites payroll. Where is our free democratic society gone? Why cant you protest without being labelled yobs, antisocial, trouble makers etc? after all this supposed to be a free democratic country. what a joke. the reason is the elite wants joe public to believe these are troublemakers. and guess what....people do....thats why i call joe public cattle. If we all stood tegether with these protesters then the freedom we deserve would still be there.
Hello again
people are quick to take the p**s
but have you actually looked at the footage? Guess not or you would have said yes i see the object strapped to the underside of the plane but i dont know what it is. I believe if its not a bomb its an AWACS flight controller (a remote control device). If you look at the footage and say all looks ok then next time i fly abroad im going to look underneath the plane and guess what? i will not see anything that resembles what is strapped to that plane that hit the twin tower. Ive spoken to people who are quick to rubbish this proof and when you ask them have they seen the footage they reply no. If its not a bomb, or an AWACS flight controller.....you tell me what it is or could be. And while i got your brin thinking...where is the plane wreckage from the other two planes and also the impact craters. Dont be small minded enough to ridicule it with toon nonsense answer the questions seriously.
Hi
have you actually looked at the twin towers footage? if so what the hell is stuck underneath that plane, i have never seen anything like that on any public commercial plane.
|Where is the pentagon planes wreckage? where is the hole in the ground the plane would have left? How come Kennedy accidently got killed not long after his famous speech where he claimed he was going to dismantle the cia as he believed a secret society within a government was the opposite to democrocy? Please look at the plane footage of the towers and then tell me there was nothing strapped to that plane. Please look at the aftermath footage of the pentagon and tell me you honestly believe an aroplane crashed there but left not even a bean can size piece of debris. the other plane that came down somewhere in Pensylvania again left no crater only a scorch mark on the ground and again no debris. Anyone reading this please look at the footage closely and then comment on this.
firstly a big hello to everyone
These g20 protesters are protesting about something which is very important to every human being on this planet, its just they got the "lets try and stop it" attitude and the rest of us will worry when its too late. Im talking about globalisation, a one world government, a one world bank and a one world army. For those of you not in the know how, world governments want globalisation with all us citezens microchipped, then they will do away with paper and coin money and all transactions will be done through your personal microchip. Then when you try to protest about anything the world government will freeze your microchip and you will not be able to work, buy or sell anything "total control of the masses". Is this really what you want? Many world leaders (this is recorded and can be found...try looking on youtube)want A NEW WORLD ORDER, The 2 Bushes, and also Gordon Brown has publicly said this. These instigators of THE NEW WORLD ORDER has done more terrorism acts than any other terrorist organisations on the planet put together, what i hate about it is the way they are blaming muslims for this and its actually the elite of western governments which are the true terrorists. They tell us Muslim terrorists flew a plane into the pentagon yet there is no video evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon and guess what.....no wreckage, look at lockerbie and see the hole in the ground the plane made and the wreckage of the plane is visable over a wide area, yet the pentagon only had a scorch mark on the grass (no crater) and no wreckage. If you look at footage of the twin towers and slow the video down you will see clearly what looks like a large bomb strapped to the underside of the plane, IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME GO AND LOOK YOURSELF AT THE VIDEO. I believe that these terrorist acts were deliberately planned to remove the freedom of the people by allowing the governments to bring in their new anti terror laws which coincedently removes a lot of our freedom. I hope i live long enough to see these elite stopped and brought to justice, and the people of our planet regain the freedom they deserve. So when i see these g20 protestors i dont see yobs or stupid uni nuts who got nothing else to do i see martyrs who got more bottle than the rest of us cattle who are letting the elite win.
Hi
here are a couple of questions id like to ask
1- how come you cannot go into a shop or chemist to buy a drug (canabis)which once consumed/smoked makes the user lathargic and half asleep with no intention of causing anyone any trouble yet you can walk into any high street supermarket or corner shop and buy an evil liquid called alcohol which can leave the user violent and causes so much damage in the community.
2- cigarettes come in a box with pictures on the box showing gum decay, lung disease e.t.c. yet again the evil liquid called alcohol does not show pictures of diseased livers, battered wives and killed people on the roadside.