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McGuinness
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:censored: :banghead: :censored:There was a recipe for pumpkin pie in one of the sundays this week. They recommended using tinned pumpkin, i think it was made by Libbys might be worth seeing if you can get that in the shops, might be less gooey than a real pumpkin, although i guess getting gooey can be fun!!!!
Key lime pie is lovely and available ready made here as is Pecan pie
Key lime pie is lovely and available ready made here as is Pecan pie
Quote by rockstarEssex
anything in essex tonight? let me no
Southend Pier, the Dartford tunnel / bridge, Colchester Barracks, the M25, pubs, clubs, Essex girls, Essex boys, the coastline. Yep there's lots in Essex tonight but don't worry if you miss it, because there will be lots there in the future
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WOT U IN 2
Lets hope for your sake its mobile phones and texting and not stunning conversation, witty repartee and political debate
Good luck and have fun
Woohoo people that think the same way as me
I think the people that perpetuate Christmas as most people know it are retailers and associated industries.
Like Judy I would rather say to everyone I know, don't buy me anything, i won't buy you anything. That way i could spend the money on something i will truly appreciate rather than spend £'s on unwanted tat for my friends and reli's, and recieve unwanted tat in return.
This year me and my partner have limited ourselves to £10 each, not a skinflint move, she knows money is not an issue to me and if she asked for something for lots of £'s she would recieve it, but we are keeping it traditional and going along the "its the thought that counts" lines. would rather spend time with her than have her spend money on me.
I suggested that we told her kids they were now jewish and bought them 9 candles each but she wasn't keen for some reason
I think the people that perpetuate Christmas as most people know it are retailers and associated industries.
Like Judy I would rather say to everyone I know, don't buy me anything, i won't buy you anything. That way i could spend the money on something i will truly appreciate rather than spend £'s on unwanted tat for my friends and reli's, and recieve unwanted tat in return.
This year me and my partner have limited ourselves to £10 each, not a skinflint move, she knows money is not an issue to me and if she asked for something for lots of £'s she would recieve it, but we are keeping it traditional and going along the "its the thought that counts" lines. would rather spend time with her than have her spend money on me.
I suggested that we told her kids they were now jewish and bought them 9 candles each but she wasn't keen for some reason
Quote by KitKat
confined to the upstairs with their stockings. go through all the stuff in their stockings with us.
Well thats it i'm going to confine my partner to upstairs with her stockings!! Then i'm going to go through the contents of her stockings!!! Excellent idea ;)
Personally i won't be having a Christmas tree or anything at my main house
I assume at my partners house such things will be in evidence due to the saucepans
If decorations have to go up, i like it to happen on Christmas Eve and go down at midnight 26th/27th December, that way i feel the spirit of Christmas is maintained. Lets face it we are in a society where for a lot of people religion means less and less through the ages, and religious people would not celebrate Christmas in the commercial way that is perpertrated by all people in the retail trade and associated industries.
That said in order not to continue my mantle as most hated, anti parent / kid member of Swinging Heaven i'd like to say that whenever you are happy to put up your decorations is up to you and if you get excited by it all, then why not make it last as long as possible. Have fun!!!
By the way me and my partner had our first holiday together in October 2003 whilst walking through a Devonshire town we saw a house complete with Christmas decorations, not just a small display but the full monty with oversize inflatable santas, lights etc!!!
The local paper these week had a letter from a resident complaining that his first Carol singers arrived on the 23rd of October, don't you just love the letters page of your local rag!
Happy Christmas Daz and Lou
I said earlier in the post means tested i have no problems with. this weekend a few newspapers ran a story on a woman that saw breeding as a job. The results of her "job" a free 6 bedroom house and £30k a year in benefits. Im so glad i'm supporting her!! My mother did get child allowance, did she need it or deserve it, no. But she collected it because she could. How many other people whom don't need it collect it? As stated before people on mega incomes can claim this benefit, ok i can't see the likes of Madonna popping down the post office to get their benefit but the stupidity of the system wouldn't prevent it. By the way this is currently being debated on talksport 1053/1089am.
Quote by rudolf_uk
Moving onto benefits i believe it is vital that the government contributes a child benefit though i disagree with it being paid in cash. To ensure it is being used for its intended purpose it should bre provided in food and clothing vouchers
I also believe that people who claim unemployment benefit should be made to do any job after say a 6mth period of looking for themselves. Made be put something back into society such as cleaning the streets or as lollipop people. something constructive. this will then wean out the people who have no intention of finding employment.
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Rudolf
Have to say i wholeheartedly agree with these views, food and clothing vouchers is a great idea with the stipulation that the booze, cigarette and lottery sections are excluded from the vouchers
Quote by Libra-Love
Are they just as please with their new alcoholic step-dad:
Being truthful its probably one of the less appealing aspects of me to them.
But bollocks to their opinion i'm not going out with them
Personally i would like to think the positives i bring to their lives far outweigh the negatives
Quote by MaryaThis is SO true!!!!
you can chase the CSA as much as you like and nothing will happen!!! pmsl you are soooo naive. if you want to have a go at someone have a go at father who pay nothing and do all they can to avoid paying even a penny
I have JUST emailed the CSA for the 3rd time in 6 weeks.
6 weeks=42 days
one email a day = 42 emails you can only email the csa 3 times in 6 weeks yet you can post times a day on a swinging site, maybe you need to prioritise your life
Quote by MaryaThis is SO true!!!!
you can chase the CSA as much as you like and nothing will happen!!! pmsl you are soooo naive. if you want to have a go at someone have a go at father who pay nothing and do all they can to avoid paying even a penny
I have JUST emailed the CSA for the 3rd time in 6 weeks. I applied to the CSA on 24th March, 2001 and have written to them 4 times and spoken to various departments at least once a bloody month.
Their response?
* We have no evidence of your claim
* our system is down
* the other party do not wish to proceed (other party? you mean her dad? course he doesnt want to proceed, daft c**t!!!GRRRRRRRRR)
*we are up-dating our system
* the system has changed
* we have never heard of you (again!)
*we'll get back to you ( 8 times, now)
this is my official rant now - I didn't want a child, never wanted them, I'm not a responsible person. I'm not against abortion but it's not right for ME. My ex knew all this, he also knew I wasn't on the Pill because it was making me ill. He told me he was in remission from testicualr cancer and the treatment had left him infertile and not to mention this to his family because it was far too upsetting for them.
When i discovered I was pregnant he accused me of sleeping around.
Of course I much later found out he'd never had cancer, his last girlfiend had aborted his child and 31, he felt i was his 'last chance'.
Do you really begrudge me £11 a week? my daughter might the surgeon that treats you when you're lying in your private hospital bed with alcohol-related heart disease.
I don't begrudge everyone this money, like i say means tested and situation tested is great. i begrudge people that see having kids as a living, its not!!!!
i begrudge people that give up on the CSA believe me i've witnessed it, it is inefficient it is crap but does that mean you should let it lie? For the CSA daily contact by phone and email works, get the name of a contact, harang them, if they don't respond find out the name of their superior and complain, believe me you will eventually get a result. its fucking hard work i don't deny it but it is worth it. write to your mp or pm they get paid to represent you.
Quote by lubeynmark
you can chase the CSA as much as you like and nothing will happen!!! pmsl you are soooo naive. if you want to have a go at someone have a go at father who pay nothing and do all they can to avoid paying even a penny
Not naive, like i say i encouraged my partner to chase him and persistency won through. these men have to learn their input does not stop at the point of conception. yes it is probably killing him financially, so what he should have thought of that when he chose not to use a condom
My partners ex was a cunt who thinks life owes him a living, including contributing to his kids upkeep.
With my encouragement she started to chase him. as far as i know she had not pushed the issue for fear of reprisals from her ex. At the very least she had not pushed the issue hard. With me on her back she persisted in her pursuit of him, contacted the CSA regularly, complained against their inefficiency, hounded them, kept going until she got results.
In the end we got him
Persistency shone through maybe some of you should persist rather than giving up. It seems you would rather us single tax payers subsidise you rather than the sperm donors!!!
This year he will be contributing to his kids holidays via his CSA payments, rather than me contributing as i did last year.
With my encouragement she started to chase him. as far as i know she had not pushed the issue for fear of reprisals from her ex. At the very least she had not pushed the issue hard. With me on her back she persisted in her pursuit of him, contacted the CSA regularly, complained against their inefficiency, hounded them, kept going until she got results.
In the end we got him
Persistency shone through maybe some of you should persist rather than giving up. It seems you would rather us single tax payers subsidise you rather than the sperm donors!!!
This year he will be contributing to his kids holidays via his CSA payments, rather than me contributing as i did last year.
Quote by MQ
You chase the fucking CSA up I'm too busy caring for my kids! It's been 2 years now and they have done fuck all.
off to cool down now before I am kicked off this forum
So you are too busy to chase up the CSA by e-mail yet you can post 7 (average) posts a day on a swinging site!!!
Well thank you for restoring the faith in us non parent taxpayers
Quote by Libra-Love
how does my drinking constitute a burden on society?
Perhaps you're less productive than you should be, due to the alcohol?
Bollocks i work 6 days a week
Pay all my tax's
Pay all covert tax's ie petrol, alcohol duty, council tax, road tax etc
I drink but it has never effected my ability to contribute to society
Number of days off sick nil - im pay as you go if i don't work i don't get paid if everyone was in this situation there would be a lot less shirkers and a lot more workers, number of days unemployed, 1, did i claim allowance, did i bollocks!! Numbers of days a burden to the health service 0
I don't think parents should be penalised for their efforts but why reward them indefinately
My first ex-husband was an alcoholic who never took a day off work either. But his productivity was not to the same standards as his collegues, though he would have argued you blue in the face on that one. Pretty much like you just have.
Like i stated i am pay as you go on a day to day basis, if i was not productive one day i would not be asked back the next. So far each day i am asked back
Quote by Libra-Love
how does my drinking constitute a burden on society?
Perhaps you're less productive than you should be, due to the alcohol?
Bollocks i work 6 days a week
Pay all my tax's
Pay all covert tax's ie petrol, alcohol duty, council tax, road tax etc
I drink but it has never effected my ability to contribute to society
Number of days off sick nil - im pay as you go if i don't work i don't get paid if everyone was in this situation there would be a lot less shirkers and a lot more workers, number of days unemployed, 1, did i claim allowance, did i bollocks!! Numbers of days a burden to the health service 0
I don't think parents should be penalised for their efforts but why reward them indefinately
Quote by Marya
It's actually called Child Benefit and for those that are as skint as me, that extra £11 a week can make the world of difference.
My argument is should every parent get it? I think it should be means-tested like all other benefits. The likes of Posh n Becks can get it! As if they need it?!
If they made it means-tested then they could give more to people that really need it. Pisses me right off tbh.
Btw, i don't get a single penny in maintenance from my daughter's dad and haven't done for more than 3 1/2 years. Maybe if he coughed up and took responsibilty for his off-spring, or the CSA got their arses into gear I wouldn't need the benefits that precious tax-payers whinge on about so much.
Maybe people who can't afford to bring up a child unaided should invest in condoms!
I agree it should be means tested, should not be automatic and should be limited to one child benefit per person if people choose to have more than one kid why keep paying them so that it becomes a source of income rather than getting a job!
By the way if people chase the fathers of kids down the CSA will act, become a nuisance to the CSA if you chase them up, put in complaints about their inefficiency, complain to your MP, ring them every day, write to them every day, they will get off their ass and chase the father. Believe me i have seen it in action it took a lot of phonecalls, e-mails and letters but eventually you can stop the CSA's inefficiency. By letting them slack and not chasing them up you are letting them get away with it
Quote by northwest-cpl
But when you are old and infirm you will need our children to provide you with medical care, housing and all the other services that society provides.
I have paid enough tax's to cover my medical care i am even willing to forsake the tax i pay to the NHS and go private, unfortunately the government does not give us the option to not contribute to the NHS, we have to pay tax's to NHS and go private
Housing, i have bought my own house no aid from the state, it will be my house that i have paid for no government hand in that, however if i end up in care my house will be sold and pay for my care rather than my tax's
Quote by roger743
Yes, but when you get old and stop earning, other people's kids will have to pay taxation to support the expenses you're not paying (police, army, etc). If you'd had kids, you could've lessenned the burden on others. ;)
By the way you are also better off under current government policy not having equity in your property, savings or a pension
Yes, but are you willing to gamble that the current government will still be in power when any of us retire/die?
If our army was concentrated on defending the UK rather than oil then maybe it would cost less and our brave soldiers would be properly equipped (according to many newspapers our troops are ill trained and ill equipped, maybe if we only defended against real threats to the UK (rather than what Dubya tells Tony is a threat) then we could target the military budget to get quality training and equipment
yes but if i wasn't subsidising other peoples kids then my tax's would more than pay for my pension, plus with my condition i ain't going to get old.
My partner countered with "What about your health problems due to booze?"
Ermm as well as paying VAT on my booze i pay alcohol excise duty, my life expectency is less than a non alcoholic (less time in hospital with elderly degeneration illness, no pension costs), how does my drinking constitute a burden on society?
My partner countered with "What about your health problems due to booze?"
Ermm as well as paying VAT on my booze i pay alcohol excise duty, my life expectency is less than a non alcoholic (less time in hospital with elderly degeneration illness, no pension costs), how does my drinking constitute a burden on society?
Contreversial maybe but here goes
What the fuck is that all about??
Had a mass debate with my lovely partner the other day, unfortunately it wasn't a masturbate!!!
I haven't got kids, never will
I haven't added numbers to our free education system
I haven't added numbers to our free health service
I haven't added potential numbers to our dole queues
I haven't added potential criminals to the justice system
I have never asked my council for subsidised housing
Yet my tax's pay for all of these yet people that breed get paid a bonus for it!! What the fuck is that all about. Surely by not adding to the governments expenses i should be paid non child allowance!!!!!!!! I personally think the Chinese have the right idea, penalising people that procreate!!
McGuinness now looks forward to a swinging heaven life of being snubbed and slagged down but i had to get it off my chest
By the way you are also better off under current government policy not having equity in your property, savings or a pension
What the fuck is that all about??
Had a mass debate with my lovely partner the other day, unfortunately it wasn't a masturbate!!!
I haven't got kids, never will
I haven't added numbers to our free education system
I haven't added numbers to our free health service
I haven't added potential numbers to our dole queues
I haven't added potential criminals to the justice system
I have never asked my council for subsidised housing
Yet my tax's pay for all of these yet people that breed get paid a bonus for it!! What the fuck is that all about. Surely by not adding to the governments expenses i should be paid non child allowance!!!!!!!! I personally think the Chinese have the right idea, penalising people that procreate!!
McGuinness now looks forward to a swinging heaven life of being snubbed and slagged down but i had to get it off my chest
By the way you are also better off under current government policy not having equity in your property, savings or a pension
Quote by dazandlou
What I want = Time with my lovely partner
I'll second that!!!
Quote by McGuinness
What i'll get that i don't want = Time with her offspring too!!
HOW FECKING TRUE!!
:x :x on Xmas day as well!! :x :x :xWhat?, you want time with my partner?? I'd have to ask her first!!!
You sure you don't want time with her offspring i'll pay you to take them off our hands and give me my first christmas wish
