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Riotandantony
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 62
Bi-curious Female, 66
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Interesting use of words by rioandantonty
concerning the massacre of bosnian muslism (why does rio not use the word muslims), by serbian christians (again rio uses the word communists instead of christians, funny that?)
"This has been twisted by moslem propagandists to make out that westerners are against Arabs etc
Twisted? Hmm. So a group of europeans get massacred on the basis on their religion - and the "arabs" twisted it. Well, i am european and i dont need to "twist" to point out this sordid episode in recent european history[/quote
Arguments over grammer won't wash !
The Serbian leader was also the head of the Communist Party, and yes, the Serbian paramilitaries did get backing from the Christian Orthodox Church, they were'nt just slaughtering moslems, but also people of other ethnic groups in the neighbouring ex Yugoslavian countries.
I stand by the fact that islamic propagandists have twisted inaction by the UN over this to falsely claim that the west is against all Arabs,Pakistanis etc
By the way, I'm not on the "side" of christians,moslems,jews, hindus or any other religeon - I'm an athiest and its plainly obvious the world would be a better place without them...if of course these religeous tyrants deign to leave us a world worth habiting !
Quote by westman
JTS - interesting. last time i checked the last massacre on european soil were bosnian muslims being butchered for their faith - hmmm. Please JTS - dont let the facte get in the way of your prejudices

This is a different issue from free speech etc, Bosnians and for that matter all the rest of Serbia's neighbours and internal dissidents were being butchered by communist Slobadan Milosovic's thugs. The reason for inaction was the United Nations imposing a hopelessly limited mandate on its peacekeepers using force - what else is new - it was the same story in Rwanda, mostly due to dictatorships such as China and Russia blocking effective action.
This has been twisted by moslem propagandists to make out that westerners are against Arabs etc
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So our "democratic" governement has just banned Dutch MP Geert Wilders form entering the country to present his film - luckily its available on the web, the National Secular Society's weekly newsletter has link to it - amongst other things, it features the hanging of gays and execution of women in moslem countries.
This is not acted out propaganda - its news that has happened in the real world - it seems that the governement does not value the democratic rights and free speech we have fought for over the centuries.
What a complete disgrace.
Yours in Anger & Anarchy !

okay.... this is where the government can't win
they use the same piece of legistlation to keep up holocaust deniers, and record artists that have said stuff about gays being killed, and louis farakarn for example speaking at events..... but this guy who is up on charges of inciting hatred in his own country, but should be aloud to incite it here instead...
damned if they do... damned if they don't
Yes I have seen it, but with free speech should come responsability...It is in no way a balanced piece of film and I have sure I can find pieces of the bible, or the old testament for example and take them out of context......
would that be acceptable as well?couldnt have put it better myself fabio biggrin
I don't believe in censorship ; whether its rappers like Ice T & Bodycount having their song "Cop Killer" withdrawn from sale or Richard Dawkins criticising parts of the bible and creationism, controversial, and yes, sometimes "offensive" views must be heard by the public in a democratic society.
Whilst I don't agree with everything Geert Wilders has said, I don't agree with the Home Office that he is a threat to public order, he visited this country in December and absolutely nothing happened, and the film was still shown at the House of Lords in the week and there was'nt even a single moslem protesting about it, let alone any violence.
But lets say for the sake of argument hundreds of moslems had rioted or attacked people, would this still be grounds for banning free speech ? I hope not as this is just giving in to terrorism.
My message to moslems is ; Commit Apostasy now ! Throw away you're veils & burqas - you have nothing to lose but a boring life !
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So our "democratic" governement has just banned Dutch MP Geert Wilders form entering the country to present his film - luckily its available on the web, the National Secular Society's weekly newsletter has link to it - amongst other things, it features the hanging of gays and execution of women in moslem countries.
This is not acted out propaganda - its news that has happened in the real world - it seems that the governement does not value the democratic rights and free speech we have fought for over the centuries.
What a complete disgrace.
Yours in Anger & Anarchy !
A difficult one ; but right now I reckon " V For Vendetta", also, Lindsay Anderson's "If".
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Any nature programmes, The Flashing Blade - excellent theme tune (as was Robinson Crusoe's ), and ans African one called "Yao" that had lots of wilderness scenes and some very educational scenes of very topless and very lovely (and to my young mind - very educational !)tribal ladies.
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Cruelty to any living creature just for the fun of it is abhorrent sad
To kill another living creature for its meat as humanely as is possible is something quite different.

Of couse they are different and partly I am being deliberately provocative; but the question was, "can anyone fathom what goes on in the mind of anyone who deliberately hurts an animal?" and my answer stands.
I'm a farmer (sheep & poultry), and also practise pest control of rabbits etc which also end up in the cooking pot, I treat all my animals humanely, whether its livestock, or my beloved dogs & ferrets, anything which has to be killed is dealt with quickly and cleanly - thats life, thats nature - as it has been since the dawn of history.
I also campaign on nature conservation issues a site more than these sheeple who go "aaah" whilst watching a fluffy bunny on TV whilst tucking into a factory farmed chicken burger !
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None of these politicians, including "Green" ones, seem to be mentioning the elephant in the room that most/all of the environmental problems are caused by human overpopulation, often caused as a result of religeous stricture, ie, religeon disempowering women, catholics banning contraception & abortion,islam aiming to outbreed the infidels, etc etc the list goes on and on, but no one seems to want to "offend" them.
No Gods No Masters
Kew Gardens ! great place for sex, there are different greenhouses for different climates, ie desert, tropical rain forest etc, so you can have sex in all of them on the same day.
On a surrealist note, my girlfriend was giving me a bj outside in a glade, when a Goshawk swooped in and killed a blackbird only yards from us !...very Eros & Thanatos !
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What's wrong with either pornography or prostitution ?- well, I guess porn is boring, but thats no reason to ban it, and what business is it of the State's to interfere in the private lives of consenting adults.
A good book about sex work is Laura Maria Agustin's "Sex at the Margins - Migration,Labour,Markets and the Rescue Industry (Zed Books).
Aside from being anti democratic, anti prostitution laes will just drive women into the hands of pimps or working in dangerous areas, but I suppose that is just what bigoted moralists want as a punishment for "sin".
yours angrily
Antony
For all the moralists and nanny-staters out there, the verse that we should leave ringing in their ears is from the Sex Pistols "Pretty Vacant" ;
"Stop you're cheap comments - 'cos we know what we feel "
Checkout "Desert Hearts" for a stylish lesbian film.
Also "Night Porter" with the incredible Charlotte Rampling.
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Chuck D of Public Enemy once said that you should play you're music in front of a girl ; if she likes it - the music is no good !
Why is it that the only music the average girl likes seems to be limited to Abba, Barbera Streisand and Celine Dion ?
There - that should get 'em going !
yours
Antony the cynical anarchist punk bastard !
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No there is no such thing as "God" - just an invention of the superstitious ego.
Long live human intelligence and creativity - its the only thing thats ever got us anywhere.
All bible bashers should remember Jesus's last words ; "my father - why hast though forsaken me ?"
Personally I don't claim to know whether God exists or not, but the argument you've presented seems to be somewhat at odds with itself:
If you are correct and there is no God, then God is an invention of the "human intelligence and creativity" you find so laudable. How do you resolve this implied paradox? :twisted:
I'd say "God" is an invention of the human mind or ego, but not exactly an intelligent one given its refusal to be analysed by logic & science.
No there is no such thing as "God" - just an invention of the superstitious ego.
Long live human intelligence and creativity - its the only thing thats ever got us anywhere.
All bible bashers should remember Jesus's last words ; "my father - why hast though forsaken me ?"
I love "mad bitches" ie women who are independant and do their own thing, especially if its hunting, fishing, shooting and sex, but Sarah Palin was'nt - she is an ultra conformist religeous fundamentalist who wants to enforce her idea of a perfect society on everyone else, ie, anti abortion, anti homosexual/lesbian, anti evolution etc
yours sincerely
Antony
I keep and breed lurchers and terriers, as long as you stay off bird bones, you're fine, this is what dogs eat in the wild, it keeps their teeth and jaws strong and their gums healthy. I guess I'm in a lucky position as I'm a farmer with a steady supply of mutton,rabbit and venison bones and offal etc
With regards those moslem women who claim that men treat them with more respect when they wear a hijab... should'nt men be treating them with respect anyway, no matter what they are wearing ?!
All religeons tend to treat both women and sexuality with fear and disdain, if religeon had its way, this site and swinging in general would be banned.
Its worth checking out the National Secular Society website for regular news on what religeous fundamentalists are getting up to.
Stay Raunchy
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