Well Heather, to some extent it will depend on the orifice being "treated". If on another girl and her more usual receptacle, then I don't see the problem. If the tighter alternative is being explored, then a lot of relaxing foreplay, lubrication and gentleness are the order of the day, pretty much in that sequence.
I would have to ask, but K might be happy to demonstrate for you!
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I am rather puzzled that people should be shy of using hotels, especially the larger ones where anonymity is easy. I would agree howver that some of the small boutique type hotels or pubs out in the country might raise more than an eyebrow if more than the checked-in-couple suddenly disappeared rather obviously in the direction of just one room!
Certainly one way to deter the pic collectors, of which there seem to be many, is to post just (semi)clothed pix........ We also make it clear in our ad that we do not send out gynae shots ...... As for phone numbers, we are very chary indeed of giving those out until genuinely required to progress.
Personally, I don't like facial hair on a woman at all ....... As for the lovely K, she doesn't like facial hair on a bloke ....... She reckons it's just too damn scratchy and, certainly when I don't have to go to the office, I shave in the evenings (on the slim chance it will make me more desirable to K ... lol)
For those interested:
"The Spanish fly is the emerald-green blister beetle, in Latin Cantharis vesicatoria or Lytta vesicatoria which is found in the southern parts of Europe. The body is usually 15-22 mm long and 5-8 mm wide with a strong smell and a burning taste. The dried and crushed body of the beetle was earlier used medically as a irritant and diuretic, but was also regarded as a potent aphrodisiac
Origins:
The legend that Spanish fly (or cantharides, a substance made from dried beetle remains) is a powerful aphrodisiac has been around for hundreds of years. The substance irritates the urogenital tract and produces an itching sensation in sensitive membranes, a feeling that allegedly increases a woman's desire for intercourse."
I may be wrong, but I believe that the "real stuff" is illegal, though there are now marketed assorted variations based on anything from mixed herbs and the like to snake oil.
"The Spanish fly is the emerald-green blister beetle, in Latin Cantharis vesicatoria or Lytta vesicatoria which is found in the southern parts of Europe. The body is usually 15-22 mm long and 5-8 mm wide with a strong smell and a burning taste. The dried and crushed body of the beetle was earlier used medically as a irritant and diuretic, but was also regarded as a potent aphrodisiac
Origins:
The legend that Spanish fly (or cantharides, a substance made from dried beetle remains) is a powerful aphrodisiac has been around for hundreds of years. The substance irritates the urogenital tract and produces an itching sensation in sensitive membranes, a feeling that allegedly increases a woman's desire for intercourse."
I may be wrong, but I believe that the "real stuff" is illegal, though there are now marketed assorted variations based on anything from mixed herbs and the like to snake oil.
Well Robbie, I guess we feel gently reprimanded and on that basis, we have relocated our advert to "Couples Seeking Women".
However, there is a tenable argument that our advert, and others like it, do indeed belong in "Women Seeking Women" ...... With regards to placing the same advert in more than one location, I was under the impression, perhaps mistakenly, that such action was not permitted.
However, there is a tenable argument that our advert, and others like it, do indeed belong in "Women Seeking Women" ...... With regards to placing the same advert in more than one location, I was under the impression, perhaps mistakenly, that such action was not permitted.
Having just returned from my week's "thigh-building" in France, I found this thread a real treat to read after the rather vitriolic and parallel one of about a week ago.
Spinach .... You are quite right to raise the issue of personal morals which, by definition are personal.
The question is also asked if I would mind if my wife had discreet extra-marital liaisons (I refuse to use the word cheated). I can reply to this from experience ..... No, I would not, but I would very much hope she would be discreet.
Would I feel more comfortable if she discussed with me first?
I guess so, but I could well understand her reluctance to do so.
Spinach .... You are quite right to raise the issue of personal morals which, by definition are personal.
The question is also asked if I would mind if my wife had discreet extra-marital liaisons (I refuse to use the word cheated). I can reply to this from experience ..... No, I would not, but I would very much hope she would be discreet.
Would I feel more comfortable if she discussed with me first?
I guess so, but I could well understand her reluctance to do so.
Don't fret about it ...... I often upset people too, in case you hadn't noticed ..... It doesn't mean you shouldn't post contentiously, and often this forum would benefit from something thought-provoking ....... However, be prepared to field the inevitable brickbats with humour rather than bile 
Enjoy your riding dambuster ...... wonder if i'll ever start riding again? doubt it, but as i was taught properly (guy trained Spanish Riding School horses) as a child, I guess it's something I'll never forget and could restart even in my fast-approaching dotage when i am banned from scuba diving ...... now there's a great sport in warm waters even if, like me, you swim like a brick!
Lot's of good and interesting comment raised in this thread, some of which I find bordering on the hypocritical .... no I won't be drawn down that route.
However, I know exactly from where Musketeer is coming and imo does not deserve to be castigated. It seems that there is almost an implication from some, that Musketeer should end his marriage because he wants a sex life that he doesn't get at home, notwithstanding that his relationship has many other strengths.
There is a valid argument that the "non-straying party" may very well not want to know what his/her partner is up to ..... call it denial if you like, but so what.
Do I talk from experience? Indeed I do ...... My first wife, of whom I shall always be inordinately fond, had a pretty long affair which anyone with half a brain would have recognised ...... But I really did not want to know ...... And heaven forbid that my wife should have felt so guilty that she had to share that with me ..... And no, the affair was absolutely not the cause of the breakdown of our marriage ..... Rather as Corriefem said, we outgrew each other.
No doubt for whatever reason, some of you will now see me as some sort of target ..... If so, sorry, but I am afraid I am unlikely to rise to the bait.
However, I know exactly from where Musketeer is coming and imo does not deserve to be castigated. It seems that there is almost an implication from some, that Musketeer should end his marriage because he wants a sex life that he doesn't get at home, notwithstanding that his relationship has many other strengths.
There is a valid argument that the "non-straying party" may very well not want to know what his/her partner is up to ..... call it denial if you like, but so what.
Do I talk from experience? Indeed I do ...... My first wife, of whom I shall always be inordinately fond, had a pretty long affair which anyone with half a brain would have recognised ...... But I really did not want to know ...... And heaven forbid that my wife should have felt so guilty that she had to share that with me ..... And no, the affair was absolutely not the cause of the breakdown of our marriage ..... Rather as Corriefem said, we outgrew each other.
No doubt for whatever reason, some of you will now see me as some sort of target ..... If so, sorry, but I am afraid I am unlikely to rise to the bait.
Wibblywobbly
I know you were initially talking about porn, but I just picked up on the bit that interested me.
With regards to semen tasting stronger before a vasectomy, I don't think you are right. The taste seems to vary significantly according to diet and/or the amount or type of liquid intake ..... I can't remember what is said to make semen taste sweet, but I think it is cheese. Bitterness I think comes from lack of water intake or perhaps too much coffee.
A good dietician could probably enlighten with facts rather than my unscientific but educated guesswork
I know you were initially talking about porn, but I just picked up on the bit that interested me.
With regards to semen tasting stronger before a vasectomy, I don't think you are right. The taste seems to vary significantly according to diet and/or the amount or type of liquid intake ..... I can't remember what is said to make semen taste sweet, but I think it is cheese. Bitterness I think comes from lack of water intake or perhaps too much coffee.
A good dietician could probably enlighten with facts rather than my unscientific but educated guesswork
Wibblywobbly (and others) ...... To avoid any confusion, I am the camel half of K&R.
Swallowing is surely only degrading to the girl if it is something she would really much rather not do or even actively dislikes. It happens that K rather likes the taste (it varies according to diet) and indeed, she and I quite often snowball.
Similarly in reverse .... is it degrading to the man if the girl wants him to kiss her deeply after having come in her mouth and/or to lick her pussy clean after the event? I think not, within the same parameters above.
On the same issue (WW), what difference does it make whether or not the man has had a vasectomy?
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Degradation is another matter. Where a man (or woman) imposes their will (anal intercourse say) against the basic wishes of the other party, then that is degrading. However, where the other is a willing party, then not so.
Swallowing is surely only degrading to the girl if it is something she would really much rather not do or even actively dislikes. It happens that K rather likes the taste (it varies according to diet) and indeed, she and I quite often snowball.
Similarly in reverse .... is it degrading to the man if the girl wants him to kiss her deeply after having come in her mouth and/or to lick her pussy clean after the event? I think not, within the same parameters above.
On the same issue (WW), what difference does it make whether or not the man has had a vasectomy?
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Degradation is another matter. Where a man (or woman) imposes their will (anal intercourse say) against the basic wishes of the other party, then that is degrading. However, where the other is a willing party, then not so.
What a very strange comment of yours Blue ....... You are right that much of the comment in this thread is thoughtful and has made very interesting reading. Nevertheless, it is equally true that people in general (not only me) cannot be bothered to wade through any long article, whether in here or in a newspaper.
"I don't buy that in most swinging couples that the woman is usually bi"
The above was a comment from Blue on #2 of this long discussion.
My original wording was intended to be somewhat controversial, and so it has proved.
I could similarly have asked the question as Blue poses it.
Actually I think she(?) is absolutely right.
Certainly bi-females are a very widely-held male fantasy.
I also get the impression that many of the adverts (our own included!) are written by the male of the partnership.
In my very unscientific opinion, I too think that many of the girls are described as being at least bi-curious merely because the girl wants to satisfy that part of their partner's fantasy. In reality, the girl may not or may not want to participate wholeheartedly in this aspect of their play.
The above was a comment from Blue on #2 of this long discussion.
My original wording was intended to be somewhat controversial, and so it has proved.
I could similarly have asked the question as Blue poses it.
Actually I think she(?) is absolutely right.
Certainly bi-females are a very widely-held male fantasy.
I also get the impression that many of the adverts (our own included!) are written by the male of the partnership.
In my very unscientific opinion, I too think that many of the girls are described as being at least bi-curious merely because the girl wants to satisfy that part of their partner's fantasy. In reality, the girl may not or may not want to participate wholeheartedly in this aspect of their play.
Reading through the adverts for couples, it is noticeable how many of the girls are, at the very least, bi-curious. Conversely, at least 95% of the blokes are described as completely straight – i.e. with no interest whatsoever in other males to bordering on the homophobic.
I certainly find this very hard to swallow (excuse the pun!) and would posit that an awful lot of guys are at least curious to know what it is like to give another a BJ.
So, is the reticence due to the remaining social stigma attaching to same-sex male contact or is female bi-sexuality genuinely much more common or is it that many couples wish to actively discourage males with bi-tendencies, not least because of the intrinsically greater health risks?
I certainly find this very hard to swallow (excuse the pun!) and would posit that an awful lot of guys are at least curious to know what it is like to give another a BJ.
So, is the reticence due to the remaining social stigma attaching to same-sex male contact or is female bi-sexuality genuinely much more common or is it that many couples wish to actively discourage males with bi-tendencies, not least because of the intrinsically greater health risks?
"easy" ..... I too have had several such lucky escapes inc one many years ago when doing 130+ on M3 ...... Unfortunately, in an age where speed traps are all too often just a soft way for the authorities to rake in money rather than prevent accidents. Not so long ago, I was done for doing 38 mph on a very quiet stretch of 30 mph limit road at 22h00! ..... Guilty? Yes, but not remotely dangerously.
Busty Babe ..... Though I take your point, if someone wants to find out about another, it really isn't that difficult. You are right that I could remove the pic from the forum site, but the advert is a different matter.
Personally, I would not answer an advert without a picture, and I would certainly want to know what the person or couple look like. Just blanking the face is only a slight disguise.
Of course, I could remain as a totally anonymous member, but that for me would rather take away the purpose of being a member at all.
Lest you think, I have taken offense at your (good) advice, I assuredly have not!
Personally, I would not answer an advert without a picture, and I would certainly want to know what the person or couple look like. Just blanking the face is only a slight disguise.
Of course, I could remain as a totally anonymous member, but that for me would rather take away the purpose of being a member at all.
Lest you think, I have taken offense at your (good) advice, I assuredly have not!
I can empathise completely with this scenario. I love my wife to bits, but she has been off sex for years. I am told that this is really quite common and probably has a biological trigger linked to the end of child bearing.
Rather than end up bitter and twisted, I have a long-term girlfriend (see pic!) whom I see regularly but discreetly. I would be fairly surprised if my wife does not have some inkling of this relationship, and for sure I would be out on my ear if I was foolish or inconsiderate enough to bring it to her notice. However, I suspect that, as so often, what the eye does not see, the heart does not grieve.
Rather than end up bitter and twisted, I have a long-term girlfriend (see pic!) whom I see regularly but discreetly. I would be fairly surprised if my wife does not have some inkling of this relationship, and for sure I would be out on my ear if I was foolish or inconsiderate enough to bring it to her notice. However, I suspect that, as so often, what the eye does not see, the heart does not grieve.
I do not claim to be any sort of of expert, but surely initial "sexiness" an even sexual chemistry is strongly linked to body language. For sure, being pretty/handsome helps, but so long as you don't look as though you have been hit by a bus, it is not a prerequisite.
The most sexually attractive people stand and walk tall and look confident ..... Over and above that, there are the small signals like quick eye contact, flicking back the hair (for girls!), and all those other little things, some of which we consciously pick up and others that our underlying animal instincts register.
The most sexually attractive people stand and walk tall and look confident ..... Over and above that, there are the small signals like quick eye contact, flicking back the hair (for girls!), and all those other little things, some of which we consciously pick up and others that our underlying animal instincts register.
