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Quote by kentswingers777
Whilst out on me bike today I filled up with petrol near to where I live, and it was £113 a litre.
Whilst I was out I noticed a huge difference in the price of fuel depending on the area.
The highest I saw was " 124 a litre which is a huge difference to where I filled up.
Why are the garages charging such a big difference in price?
When it was done in gallons a few years back a difference of 10p a gallon would be deemed a lot, but seeing as there are four and a half litres to a gallon, the difference in price equates to nearly 50p nowadays in the prices I saw today.A huge ammount if you are saying putting in 50 quids worth of fuel.
I cannot help thinking that unless the cost of selling petrol is higher in certain areas,why do some garages charge so much more? Is it simply greed or are there other reasons?
Well to charge £113 a litre is a little excessive, or did you mean lol
Seriously though it baffles me why the costs vary so much, I know motorway services will always charge more as they have got you trapped if you need fuel. But the general petrol stations seem to make it up as they go along. Or is it that the larger groups get a better deal from the petrol companies and the smaller independent business get 'stuffed' with having to pay more as they dont buy as much.
I dont understand it all but I am sure someone here might, would be interesting to know.
Quote by kentswingers777
Have to say Forest I agree with you.
I detest the fact that you can only be racist if you are white, and to be honest the most racist guy I know is a Jamaican.
IF it was a private conversation Brucie you should have just ignored it.
He may well be a grumpy old fool, but I wonder had you have been so brave had it of been a strapping hard geezer?
Thought not.
A contradiction there me thinks! I love the one that goes 'I'm not racist but...........' makes me sick 'to be honest'
Quote by bluexxx
I have a bad back. It's really feckin sore actually. I can honestly say it has changed my life. Telling you that for no reason other than some people REALLY do have bad backs.
However.......
Do I work? Yes, because I am lucky that I am able to work at home if I feel unwell. I am a higher rate tax payer and I will be worse off after yesterday. However, if I did not have a job that allows me to work at home when I am unwell I would have no choice but to go off sick and take the consequences. I am assuming that would be lose my house, live on benefits, and be poor for the rest of my life. I am not planning on becoming poor any time soon, so if I have to crawl to work, I will do.
That said, there are people who would love to have a job to crawl to, but they don't. There are many people who genuinely cannot work, or cannot find work, for many reasons. Don't lump those that cannot work with those that WILL NOT work. There is a massive difference. I am sure everyone who is reading this appreciates that.
Having said all that, the benefits system does need to change. But that change needs to be fair. Medical assessments for DLA -- fine... provided those medical assessments are done by qualified medical professionals who are experts in the conditions they are assessing. I assume that will be the case, will it? And if so, how much will that cost exactly?
If I was in charge... you would all love that hehehehehehe..... I would make ALL benefits means tested including cold weather payments for the elderly and child benefit. My dad is quite well off, he got a cold weather payment last year. Why? Isn't that just a waste of money? It seems fair to me to give benefits to those who need them, not those who don't.
And I am all for making benefits harder to claim, PROVIDED there are jobs there for people who want to work. That isn't the case though, at the moment, is it?
My point? I don't really have one. Just don't slag off people with bad backs, or I'll come and kick ya :-)))
I do agree with all of that. But there are some people who find it such good sport to slag off everyone and everything that doesn't fit into their world, and sometimes things they know bugger all about. Makes me sick to be honest.
Quote by shad
so many fine looking women on the tube today. i was having trouble deciding whose top i should try looking down.
Damm it i thought this was a Vuvuzela post
Shad, Happy Birthday my dear, hope its been a good one, see you Saturday to give you your pressie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by Ian
Hi this is thefirst time I have used the forum (hope im doing it right ).I use the chat rooms mainly chat 1 quite regularly (sometimes too much). I find some rooms hard to enter then find the same people in multiple rooms clogging up the server.
Sometimes u arrange to meet for a chat and this causes a problem ( I have made loads of friends on here).
It makes it seem like you are talking to yourself sometimes then skip rooms and find the same people.
Just a minor gripe I think the rooms are great as a whole
Dave
I totally agree, its very irritating, how can people pay any attention to several rooms at once, and have any sort of chat in all of them.
Dual monitors :thumbup:
One chatroom on one screen, a different chatroom on the other. Both clearly visible. Simply right click on your desktop properties and enable it. Oh it does help if you have a second monitor connected.
I give up!
Quote by Jewlnmart
Its funny how very few people have comments on this in the forum, yet moan about it all the time in the chatrooms lol
Probably because very few of the chat users use the forum, assuming they even know it exists.
You might be right, but there are loads of them who over populate the chatrooms by being in several at the same time. Perhaps they are so busy chatting (not) to have time to visit the forum lol
Quote by goldsmith
Hi this is thefirst time I have used the forum (hope im doing it right ).I use the chat rooms mainly chat 1 quite regularly (sometimes too much). I find some rooms hard to enter then find the same people in multiple rooms clogging up the server.
Sometimes u arrange to meet for a chat and this causes a problem ( I have made loads of friends on here).
It makes it seem like you are talking to yourself sometimes then skip rooms and find the same people.
Just a minor gripe I think the rooms are great as a whole
Dave
I totally agree, its very irritating, how can people pay any attention to several rooms at once, and have any sort of chat in all of them.
Its funny how very few people have comments on this in the forum, yet moan about it all the time in the chatrooms lol
Quote by muckyboy
Is there anything I need to know before I create a room? Do I need Extras? Are there any rules I should know about? Etiquette?
What happens if it doesn't work out the way I hoped, do I just walk away or do I shut it down? Can I shut it down?
Thanks
Just open a room, dont put a password in unless you want it to be private. If you want it to close, or you need to leave the room, just logout, when its empty it will close automatically. If there are people still in there chatting when you leave it will stay open.
The same rules apply to your room as do to the main rooms, unless you put your own slant on the room title. Just make it a nice friendly room and i am sure it will be fine.
The best thing is to look at the AUP to see what rules apply to chatrooms.
Good Luck
Quote by Bluefish2009
A good link Rob.
This comment though is quite relevant...
" Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith is set to create a welfare to work programme and make benefits more conditional on willingness to work ".
There lies the major issue for me, whereby so many can work but choose to live on the gravy train of hot and cold running benefits.
Yes I agree that there is always some that will be forced into work that possibly should not be but...IF it gets a lot of the lazy bad back shirkers back to work, it surely has to be worth a try?
As the article also states that if someone does go to work they are then called " morons ". That is the culture that 13 years of Labour rule have created where to work in so many cases is frowned upon, and why would they work when we see how much benefits some do get....hardly worth getting out of bed to look for work with that crazy system going on.
Genuine cases to be given all the help and support and money that is available but....the lazy workshy scroungers...get them back into work by force and stop their benefits. The only people that will really suffer are the Bingo halls and the fag and drink companies.
:thumbup:
Quote by kentswingers777
I think child benefit should only be paid to the first child, like it was for many years.
If you cannot afford to have more than one child...then don't.
When my parents had their first child back in 1956 they only got child benefit for that first child. Any subsequent child you got nothing for, and times were much bloody harder for families then than they are now.
IF child benefit is to remain it should be a means tested benefit, so people on 50 grand a year are not automatically entitled to it. Which means that the poorest families should get a bit more than they currently do....it is called the " Robin Hood scheme ".
:thumbup:
I think you will find that it was second and subsequent children that 'Family Allowance' was paid for originally.
When I had my first child in 1969 I didnt received Family Allowance, as it was then called; the first child didnt qualify. I got the allowance for my second child when she was born in 1975, and I think it wasnt to long after that, that the first children were taken into account too. This was then paid to the mother of the child(ren)from then on rather that the father as was previously the case.
There are numerous white papers on this, but this is the simplest to get through.
I thought Kenty was mistaken, but wasnt prepared to argue the case till I had made sure lol
Quote by Mal
I've found, from my experience, that a lot more females like bimales than are put off by the 'tag'. I know some prefer only straight males and wont meet bimales (which is a bit like asking for someone who is lefthanded and not considering those who are ambidextrous :lol2: ) why hide your lights under a bushel?
Being bi means you have more colours on your palette! :grin:
Mal
No its not, its a lot more personal than which hand you use. Why dont people accept that some peope dont wish to meet with bi or bi curious guys, its a matter of choice and not, as some think, a smoke screen for some guys to hide behind.
Quote by noladreams
Totally baffling if you ask me. When I requested that one of my events was listed as a Munch, it was refused. The event was held in a private venue, with all SH members, and a non playing environment. Just a bloody good evening out with the site members who came along. And very nice it was too. The only thing we didnt do was make people wear badges as if visiting a zoo whilst on a school trip lol.
But when I asked if it could be classed as a Munch instead of a social, I was told NO!
Explain someone please!
I don't know the answer as I cannot recall your event, but where was it held? It might have been something to do with that. Or did you limit the number of people who could come - as in numbers of single males, for example?
I think it was prior to my time as a Mod, so I honestly can't say without further detail.
Thanks Nola, the event was held in a lovely hotel, all those attending were SH members, the evening consisted of a four course dinner and entertainment supplied by SH members, and the only limit was the room capacity of 70. The charge for the evening was a head, which covered the cost of the meal, everything else was provided FOC by SH members. The tickets were sold on a first come first served basis, and were directly paid to the hotel to cover the cost of the meals. I took no money for this event.
I saw this as falling within the guidelines of a Munch, and wanted it to be stickied, but was told by whoever it was that it couldnt be classed as that. I cant remember being given a specific reason.
Quote by Steve
yo tweeks as i was the asker of the question i thought id just read the link you posted and low and behold the first line of it says "a munch is purely a social" so realy there is no difference lol so no matter wat ya call it letz have a get together and have a gr8 laff and meet new peeps.
Wiggz x
A munch is a social......But with subtle differences...
A munch is for SH members only...
A social can include anyone (including banned members)
A munch is a no play enviroment
A social can be whatever the organiser wants it to be....
So why was my event not allowed to be a Munch and stickied? I have been pondering this for some time. Still no definitive answer has been forthcoming.
Totally baffling if you ask me. When I requested that one of my events was listed as a Munch, it was refused. The event was held in a private venue, with all SH members, and a non playing environment. Just a bloody good evening out with the site members who came along. And very nice it was too. The only thing we didnt do was make people wear badges as if visiting a zoo whilst on a school trip lol.
But when I asked if it could be classed as a Munch instead of a social, I was told NO!
Explain someone please!
But when I asked if it could be classed as a Munch instead of a social, I was told NO!
Explain someone please!
Quote by Dave9inch
Hi this is thefirst time I have used the forum (hope im doing it right ).I use the chat rooms mainly chat 1 quite regularly (sometimes too much). I find some rooms hard to enter then find the same people in multiple rooms clogging up the server.
Sometimes u arrange to meet for a chat and this causes a problem ( I have made loads of friends on here).
It makes it seem like you are talking to yourself sometimes then skip rooms and find the same people.
Just a minor gripe I think the rooms are great as a whole
Dave
I totally agree, its very irritating, how can people pay any attention to several rooms at once, and have any sort of chat in all of them.
Quote by trigg732
I have been in and around the swinging scene for a little while now and this certainly is not my first site I have been a member of, but there is one thing that each and every site have in common, the CHATROOMS. (Oh no mortal sin used upper case).
Now dont get me wrong, if you are a couple, single female, or one of the chosen few single males the chatrooms are fun. If you are someone like me, a normal single guy looking to chat and flirt in the rooms its a nightmare. The only way I can describe it from my point of view is as a school playground.
You see at school in the playground you have different groups, that all hang around together and very rarely allow people in, they may be polite and say hello but then stand on the outside trying to join in you more then likely to get ignored.
You see you have the cool kids, they have their own stories, their own dynamics and some times their own slang. This group is very difficult to get into, generally you are treated badly, ridiculed and at the very least ignored. I remember in one room a guy was trying to join in a general discussion, he was met with being ignored. But bless him he tried and tried again, in the end the group ganged up and blocked him, for no reason. Is that fair..
This leads me onto the next group, the bullies, I have found these are generally part of the cool kids but mainly the single females or more surprisingly the single males. The single males are easy to reason why, they feel threatened by a new boy and rather than give people a chance they would prefer to 'whisper' and spoil any chance there may have been. The single females are a little different and to be honest I dont know why but remember not all single blokes are desperate, we are not all looking for a shag and we have a life, perhaps sometimes a chat and a flirt is all thats needed. The more cynical side of me thinks its because it seems all the single females, matters not if they are 20 or 50, are looking for a young buck, with an extra large cock and a body like David Beckham. This was proved to me when I was in a room and tried to speak with a single female, ignored, a young lad comes in and she pipes up saying that she had not seen him before then blah blah blah............really love look in the mirror and get realistic.
The next group are the 'wanna be's', and a very dangerous group they are. This group is mainly populated by blokes, all fighting to get excepted into the group. They will if given the chance will chop you off at the knees, tread all over you to get to the top of the pile.
The next group are the room pervs, have not seen to many of this group, but they are the ones that make no effort to join in the conversations, even if they get ignored, and just constantly post 'who wants a shag'.
The last group is the one that most single men belong to, the rest of us. We are the ones that are on the outside looking in, most of us are polite and really just want to chat and get to know people and most of us will keep trying but all us single blokes ask all you cool kids to do 'is to remember your first day at school'
You're not a happy bunny are you? Your profile has at least had some effort put into it - thats all I will say on that matter........
In my experience, a lot of the chatrooms are frequented by regulars to a particular room, and as a result they tend to get to know people they chat to regularly. This can come across as being cliquey, and there are some rooms which are just that, and dont respond to 'infiltrators'. But in the most part, I think if you make the effort to chat, it works just fine.
I open my room most nights and I do wherever possible say hello to every person that comes into the room, and encourage them to join in with what can sometimes be a very busy chat. Some respond by saying they are shy, which always baffles me, as they are on a site which affords them anonymity. Some persistently whisper, which is a pain in the backside. Some just sit there like dumb clucks and say nothing at all.
Then there are the ones who like to chat, whether it be about the weather, holidays, work, or God forbid, even sex. Those are the ones who I find get along with people best and create a spark of interest from any suitable swingables. Oh! and humour works well too.
What I am trying to say in short, is if you find a room that you feel comfy with, stay there and join in with the chat, most people will respond to you, if they also feel comfortable with you and what you actually say in chat.
Anyway, good luck, I hope you find what you are looking for. x
Quote by shad
Well that was an interesting night to be sure. I'm just glad that Goldie managed to find her knickers the next day as that could have sent Silver into an OCD spin big time, you know what he's like with things having to match.
It was as always a splendid night in the best company and yes Goldie i did manage to complete the job that was interupted by the kiddies in the Corsa
Just a shame that many of the people who said they would attend did not! Wonder why that is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: Just hate it when Silver is right all the time, but i'll get over it i am sure.
Thanks again and we love you both loads xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
It was touch and go wasnt it at one point. Silver was getting worried about my knickers, he hates me losing them. We loved your company as always, and I am so glad the job was completed lol.
Dont work too hard this week, conserve your energy, cos you never know what might happen next weekend lol (oooeerrr)
xxxxxxx
What's Popping? I hear you say .....LOL Well its our term for dogging, Sounds much nicer dont you think?
We Have our own little place which we use for pre arranged meets ....No boy Races ..LOL
We are going out with another couple this evening and may venture towards our popping site. If we do, we will be there from around 10pm onwards so if anyone would like to join us mail us before 8pm and we will let you know where we are.
We Have our own little place which we use for pre arranged meets ....No boy Races ..LOL
We are going out with another couple this evening and may venture towards our popping site. If we do, we will be there from around 10pm onwards so if anyone would like to join us mail us before 8pm and we will let you know where we are.
Quote by Lost
A small point of clarification:
For the purposes of this discussion there's a difference between a "commercial" venture/event, and a "profiteering" one.
I believe what is being trialled is a way to allow business' to promote their events on the site, for the potential benefit of the membership as a whole. I also believe there are no plans to change the non-profit status of munches or socials.
Also, as I mentioned above, if SH charges for these promotions, the price will just get added to the charge made to members who attend.
If I'm wrong then I'm sure St3v3 will be along to correct me. ;-)
So would that mean the event in LMU is a legitimate bonafida registered business or am I getting this all wrong that this is a couple of people making a quick buck from people out of arranging a "houseparty"?
I must have missed it, which event are we on about??
Quote by Voluptuous_Minx
Ive took time n read with interest all the points made on here... Evevrybody seems to be sayin the same thing really just different ways of putting it and I agree with 99% of it. But one thing about charging for socials at a venue is..
How do you determine your entry price esp if half the 'guestlist' doesn't turn up????..
You average out an amount of attendees and work out a rough cost.. 'Just to cover outgoings'...
You add names as people ask to be included,
You cater for amount confirmed,
Then only a proportion of 'confirmed' show up and you could end up in a mess... OR
More attend than you expected which then puts you in profit which you didn't plan to do but someone does the sums and immediately believes that was your intention and they must refere to you in a 'hint and shame' forum post
What do you do in these cases?? give everyone a £1/50p back on leaving the event? give it to charity? The profit could be £15 or £100. I guess you wouldn't know until it was over when all attendees have turned up.. left.. and all the outgoings have been settled.
I have been DJ/entertainer at a couple of SH socials. One I was Told what I would be paid and accepted it as part of the budget.. another the room hire was barely covered and I had to accept not even my petrol to get there was.. Its swings(pardon the pun) n roundabouts.. Tho I will state that in that case the organiser told everyone n they had a voluntary whip round for me which touched me deeply.
So I agree with charging the small amounts but not with home or extortionate amounts but thats when you have ya choice I guess.
Love Minxie :rascal: xx
Yes it is a problem, when you have assessed the cost per person based on how many say they are attending, but with my socials, because there is a meal involved, everyone pre-pays the hotel that are providing the meal, therefore you know people are not only serious about coming along, and if they dont turn up for whatever reason, their meals were paid for. It works well in this scenario, not so sure if it would for the more basic 'nibbles' do's.
And Kenty, yes SH do say they have the right to change the AUP without notice, but if they do that, then surely they should make some sort of indication on the site, which as yet they haven't as far as I can see. So surely until they do, the AUP as it is at the moment still stands.
Quote by Dawnie
Scenario:
Vanilla person looks at the forum, sees that members of the site are allowed to run events at a profit and thinks 'I might become a swinger and make some money'
Just a thought
I admit I'm worried by that too but unless they are 'active' members and by that I mean posting on the forum, using chat, placing ads or going to other events, then don't go to their events.
I think it might be good to leave well alone and leave things as they are, after all we have managed thus far. I know people have abused the AUP from time to time, but most people aren't daft and can work these things out for themselves.
As I see it, if someone holds a social or a munch, then to charge whatever it costs the organiser is fine, but to actively advertise something which is obviously a way to make money is in my view outside the ethos of this site. Aren't socials and munches opportunities for people to get together and meet up with those from this lifestyle? I thought they were in essence. Perhaps I have the wrong end of the stick.
And yes, we all have choice, but it's nice to go to social events, that people have spent a lot of time organising for the good of the members, and to spoil the whole thing by turning it into a money making venture is in my view rather a shame.
