personally he was the greatest showman on earth but
can you remember or what is your Michael Jackson moment? i think every single one of us has one?
your first kiss to i wanna rock with you ..or did you get off too late billie Jean? haha!
or was he / she a bit of a monster thriller?
go on tell us ?
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Sex God
Erm, (thinks) no - not one. Sorry.
Sexlightened
Playing with my space Lego while listening to Thriller, long before things got wierd.
My most memorable Michael Jackson moment...but there is so many
3/ Appearing at the Brits and acting like he was "The Messiah"...we love you Jarvis Cocker!!
2/Dangling his kid off a balcony ledge..look at my new play thing!!
1/Telling TV interviewer that it was absolutely natural to share your bed with a child!!
3/ Appearing at the Brits and acting like he was "The Messiah"...we love you Jarvis Cocker!!
2/Dangling his kid off a balcony ledge..look at my new play thing!!
1/Telling TV interviewer that it was absolutely natural to share your bed with a child!!
Sexpert
I thought that i was the only one who thinks that Jacko is not the best thing on earth.
Yes there have been some moments with Jacko. As some have already mentioned....the dangling of his child over a balcony, or the admission he had a child in his bed, even though to us that was weird and not acceptable, is what swingers do acceptable to everyone then?
I cannot remember him being ever found guilty of anything. Unless someone else knows different?
Many people on here would never tell family or friends they shag others, I wonder why? Maybe it could be something to do with the fact that a lot of people would think it strange, or even weird. Some peoples sexual practises on here could be deemed by some to not be acceptable to others.
Yes he was a strange guy and yes I thought it strange about his admission about kids in his bed but and here is the but.....he was never convicted of any crime.
He in my opinion was one of the top four people who changed music.
The first was Frank Sinatra, second was Elvis, the third was Hendrix and Jacko was the fourth. My opinion and that of a few people I know who have either dj'd or collect music in a big way. Still others no doubt will have others. Yes Freddie was a great showman and as I saw him at Wembley in 86 I can vouch for that but....Jacko at his height was THE showman.
So many songs from off the wall, or Bad or the classic Thriller. Still the biggest selling album of all time.
No one song means a great deal to me but it was the time that was important. His music was without doubt brilliant and Jacko's like Freddie's will be played in a hundred years time because their music is timeless. That is the only way you can measure people and their music. Timeless classics.
I cannot remember him being ever found guilty of anything. Unless someone else knows different?
Many people on here would never tell family or friends they shag others, I wonder why? Maybe it could be something to do with the fact that a lot of people would think it strange, or even weird. Some peoples sexual practises on here could be deemed by some to not be acceptable to others.
Yes he was a strange guy and yes I thought it strange about his admission about kids in his bed but and here is the but.....he was never convicted of any crime.
He in my opinion was one of the top four people who changed music.
The first was Frank Sinatra, second was Elvis, the third was Hendrix and Jacko was the fourth. My opinion and that of a few people I know who have either dj'd or collect music in a big way. Still others no doubt will have others. Yes Freddie was a great showman and as I saw him at Wembley in 86 I can vouch for that but....Jacko at his height was THE showman.
So many songs from off the wall, or Bad or the classic Thriller. Still the biggest selling album of all time.
No one song means a great deal to me but it was the time that was important. His music was without doubt brilliant and Jacko's like Freddie's will be played in a hundred years time because their music is timeless. That is the only way you can measure people and their music. Timeless classics.
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Yes there have been some moments with Jacko. As some have already mentioned....the dangling of his child over a balcony, or the admission he had a child in his bed, even though to us that was weird and not acceptable, is what swingers do acceptable to everyone the
Swinging may not be acceptable to everyone,but its not borderline !!
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Yes there have been some moments with Jacko. As some have already mentioned....the dangling of his child over a balcony, or the admission he had a child in his bed, even though to us that was weird and not acceptable, is what swingers do acceptable to everyone then?
OMG! I stopped reading here... how can you possibly compare that with swinging?! :shock: :shock: :shock:
I don't have any feelings either way, I wasn't a fan but I can appreciate many were. If I've nothing nice to say then I'd say nothing at all but really Kenty... that beggars belief!!
There's a massive difference between not acceptable and illegal!
Sex God
Personally for me, he was a talented singer who had an excellent song-writer working for him, he was an exceptional dancer, but severely f*cked up individual for a whole variety of reasons who went from me not really being a fan but respecting his achievements, to something of a laughing stock for many and a serious concern for some.
If you like dancing and catchy tunes, then he was great through the 70's and 80' and yes during that period, he produced a fair few of these tracks. But his idea of a show was fireworks, lights and dancing. I prefer those who have more charisma than a table to be honest and who choose "sleeping" partners who don't have to finish "Spot the Dog" before they can get to sleep.
As such Mr Mercury could walk on stage in his underkegs holding only a toothbrush and still have 100,000 people's rapt attention. Jacko made a great show, Freddy was a show in himself. That's the difference for me.
Too much baggage with Jacko I'm afraid and Mr Kent's defence of him is laughable I'm afraid. Some people may find Swinging terrible,however a very large percentage don't. I think you'll find those numbers would be significantly different when it comes to the number of people who feel that "sleeping" with young children who are not his own, is perfectly acceptable, especially given the accusations made against him, which may well be unproven, but they were never given the chance to be proven because he bought the silence that followed.
Hardly the act of someone innocent, desperate to clear their name, you could argue if you were being deliberatly provocative.
But I'm not so I wouldn't say that.
If you like dancing and catchy tunes, then he was great through the 70's and 80' and yes during that period, he produced a fair few of these tracks. But his idea of a show was fireworks, lights and dancing. I prefer those who have more charisma than a table to be honest and who choose "sleeping" partners who don't have to finish "Spot the Dog" before they can get to sleep.
As such Mr Mercury could walk on stage in his underkegs holding only a toothbrush and still have 100,000 people's rapt attention. Jacko made a great show, Freddy was a show in himself. That's the difference for me.
Too much baggage with Jacko I'm afraid and Mr Kent's defence of him is laughable I'm afraid. Some people may find Swinging terrible,however a very large percentage don't. I think you'll find those numbers would be significantly different when it comes to the number of people who feel that "sleeping" with young children who are not his own, is perfectly acceptable, especially given the accusations made against him, which may well be unproven, but they were never given the chance to be proven because he bought the silence that followed.
Hardly the act of someone innocent, desperate to clear their name, you could argue if you were being deliberatly provocative.
But I'm not so I wouldn't say that.
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Yes there have been some moments with Jacko. As some have already mentioned....the dangling of his child over a balcony, or the admission he had a child in his bed, even though to us that was weird and not acceptable, is what swingers do acceptable to everyone then?
OMG! I stopped reading here... how can you possibly compare that with swinging?! :shock: :shock: :shock:
I don't have any feelings either way, I wasn't a fan but I can appreciate many were. If I've nothing nice to say then I'd say nothing at all but really Kenty... that beggars belief!!
There's a massive difference between not acceptable and illegal!
Of course there is a difference, I was trying to point out that what he was alledged to have done was NEVER proved in court. What he did do the law say's whilst it is not acceptable, he did nothing illegal.
To you and me of course sleeping with young boys is NOT acceptable, but they were never the chargeds labelled against him. They were trying to prove other " acts " took place which was never proved.
So my point was that what he did was NOT illegal, but certainly not acceptable behavour. Just a bit like swinging is also NOT illegal BUT to some it would not be acceptable.
I obviously worded that one wrong but I think I knew what I was trying to say, even if others did not.
Of course Res your comments are fine but......whilst yes I agree he " brought " that kids silence, are you forgetting the second massive trial he had?
That trial went on for weeks and was world news, and after all that he was found not guilty. He brought nobody on that occasion and IF there had been a shred of evidence against him, I am sure some smart arse district attorney would have found it and made it stick.
So yes whilst I agree on your comment, he was and never has been found guilty of anything illegal. The second trial nobody found any evidence, and IF he had not brought that other kids silence, who knows he may also have been found not guilty. We will never know for sure but for me the second trial proved his innocence with everything made available to the district attorney, to try and get a conviction.
Or no doubt some would say he got off because who he was? Maybe that is true and then again maybe just maybe he was never guilty of anything at all?
That trial went on for weeks and was world news, and after all that he was found not guilty. He brought nobody on that occasion and IF there had been a shred of evidence against him, I am sure some smart arse district attorney would have found it and made it stick.
So yes whilst I agree on your comment, he was and never has been found guilty of anything illegal. The second trial nobody found any evidence, and IF he had not brought that other kids silence, who knows he may also have been found not guilty. We will never know for sure but for me the second trial proved his innocence with everything made available to the district attorney, to try and get a conviction.
Or no doubt some would say he got off because who he was? Maybe that is true and then again maybe just maybe he was never guilty of anything at all?
I'm not going to get involved in the whole MJ debate but would question Kent's remark that he was, in his opinion, one of the 4 people who changed music the most.
In which way did he change music? I don't think music changed direction as a result of any of his output. His videos no doubt influenced the hoards of later ones trotted out with similar dance routines but did he have such a significant influence on later musicians?
A certain Lennon and McCartney DID change contemporary music, influencing an entire generation of musicians, well actually generations....think Oasis
In which way did he change music? I don't think music changed direction as a result of any of his output. His videos no doubt influenced the hoards of later ones trotted out with similar dance routines but did he have such a significant influence on later musicians?
A certain Lennon and McCartney DID change contemporary music, influencing an entire generation of musicians, well actually generations....think Oasis
Sex God
Quote by Max777
I'm not going to get involved in the whole MJ debate but would question Kent's remark that he was, in his opinion, one of the 4 people who changed music the most.
In which way did he change music? I don't think music changed direction as a result of any of his output. His videos no doubt influenced the hoards of later ones trotted out with similar dance routines but did he have such a significant influence on later musicians?
A certain Lennon and McCartney DID change contemporary music, influencing an entire generation of musicians, well actually generations....think Oasis
Have to agree with this too. Jackson's legacy will be more in dance and video than Music I feel.
Musically, he owes much to his writers and arrangers.
In purest musical terms, he can't hold a candle to some of the greats.
Quote by kentswingers777
the admission he had a child in his bed, even though to us that was weird and not acceptable, is what swingers do acceptable to everyone then?
So you can sit there and defend that, make excuses and justify what Michael Jackson has done, or has been accused of, and add a comparison to swinging/swingers, yet you blindly dismiss single mothers, children with any kind of disorder, anyone who has any kind of differing view to you is considered a leftie liberal.
Either you are disturbed, have a seriously blinkered view on life,or you post the things you do to provoke some kind of reaction.
Of course this is just my opinion, something that differs from yours, so I await the onslaught.
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the admission he had a child in his bed, even though to us that was weird and not acceptable, is what swingers do acceptable to everyone then?
So you can sit there and defend that, make excuses and justify what Michael Jackson has done, or has been accused of, and add a comparison to swinging/swingers, yet you blindly dismiss single mothers, children with any kind of disorder, anyone who has any kind of differing view to you is considered a leftie liberal.
Either you are disturbed, have a seriously blinkered view on life,or you post the things you do to provoke some kind of reaction.
Of course this is just my opinion, something that differs from yours, so I await the onslaught.
I am NOT defending what he did at all!! I said it was NOT acceptable behavour fgs.
My anger was from some who have labelled him a kiddy fiddler without a shred of evidence. Yes he was a weird cookie for sure and did some very strange things but....I just think it a tad unfair where he has been found guilty as sin, for doing nothing wrong in the eyes of the LAW. That does NOT mean I agree with some of the things he has done or did. Is that clear enough?
As for being " disturbed " if I thought that comment anything other than funny, I would report it to admin as being rather offensive and a slur. But I thought it was funny as you do not know me, and as we have had a few run ins in the past, I would rather like to keep it that way thankyou.
I am not " blinkered " either, as that is how I saqw this situation with Jacko. Whatever I say seems to get a " reaction " but hey....is that not what a forum is for? I do not do it for that, I do it as that is how I see things when I write it. That may not fit into YOUR life but hey....am I bothered?
I thought I explained myself very clearly earlier on in this thread. Check some of the peado comments or insinuations. If you would like to show me where I can get information to say he has anything guilty on his criminal record I would love to see it. So on that basis if you or anyone else cannot find anything, then surely it is all mere speculation and assumptions and more importantly opinions??
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Of course Res your comments are fine but......whilst yes I agree he " brought " that kids silence, are you forgetting the second massive trial he had?
That trial went on for weeks and was world news, and after all that he was found not guilty. He brought nobody on that occasion and IF there had been a shred of evidence against him, I am sure some smart arse district attorney would have found it and made it stick.
So yes whilst I agree on your comment, he was and never has been found guilty of anything illegal. The second trial nobody found any evidence, and IF he had not brought that other kids silence, who knows he may also have been found not guilty. We will never know for sure but for me the second trial proved his innocence with everything made available to the district attorney, to try and get a conviction.
Or no doubt some would say he got off because who he was? Maybe that is true and then again maybe just maybe he was never guilty of anything at all?
This is assuming that the American judiciary and legal system is entirely fair and always gets to the truth and that justice is seen to be done.
Need I mention OJ Simpson?
The very best lawyers who would be able to effectively prosecute earn far too much for any of the families of children who suffered the alleged abuse, to be able to afford. Jackson didn't have that problem, like Simpson before him. In many cases families who can't afford lawyers are appointed ones by a court, who are the cheapest, they are cheap because they are the least effective.
Nothing was proven against Jackson of course Mr K, you are right in that. The same as nothing was proven against Simpson.
The question is whether that it was because it didn't happen, or because they paid enough to get the verdict they wanted. That is a matter for open conjecture and as such stating Jackson's innocence as an absolute may well be legally acceptable, however morally and in the eyes of many others there remain far too many awkward questions avoided and unanswered.
As you say though Mr K, opinions. However those vilifying Michael are just as valid as those eulogising him. Coins have two sides.
Freddie Mercury has been praised in this thread, by me. As a swinging community, should we laud his lax sexual habits that contributed towards his early death? Probably not. But that is somewhat besides the point of the OP.
There's always a flip side my friend, I can easily accept you and others don't feel he was guilty. Indeed, I do hope you are entirely correct in that, however I can also fully understand why many people feel that view the artist with a degree of trepidation.
"Do you wanna be in my gang, my gang, my gang, do you wanna be in my gang... Oh yeah!!"
Those lyrics rest uneasy with a lot of people now for good reason. Despite his legal innocence, the same is true for any of Jackson's lyrics for many people. It's a shame, but even if he did not sexually abuse children, one wonders why he felt the need to sleep (and I mean sleep) with children, other than his own, as a grown man. This isn't normal behaviour and is far along the line leading to the dreaded P word.
So I think people can be forgiven for not fawning copiously over his death.
Quote by kentswingers777
the admission he had a child in his bed, even though to us that was weird and not acceptable, is what swingers do acceptable to everyone then?
So you can sit there and defend that, make excuses and justify what Michael Jackson has done, or has been accused of, and add a comparison to swinging/swingers, yet you blindly dismiss single mothers, children with any kind of disorder, anyone who has any kind of differing view to you is considered a leftie liberal.
Either you are disturbed, have a seriously blinkered view on life,or you post the things you do to provoke some kind of reaction.
Of course this is just my opinion, something that differs from yours, so I await the onslaught.
I am NOT defending what he did at all!! I said it was NOT acceptable behavour fgs.
My anger was from some who have labelled him a kiddy fiddler without a shred of evidence. Yes he was a weird cookie for sure and did some very strange things but....I just think it a tad unfair where he has been found guilty as sin, for doing nothing wrong in the eyes of the LAW. That does NOT mean I agree with some of the things he has done or did. Is that clear enough?
As for being " disturbed " if I thought that comment anything other than funny, I would report it to admin as being rather offensive and a slur. But I thought it was funny as you do not know me, and as we have had a few run ins in the past, I would rather like to keep it that way thankyou.
I am not " blinkered " either, as that is how I saqw this situation with Jacko. Whatever I say seems to get a " reaction " but hey....is that not what a forum is for? I do not do it for that, I do it as that is how I see things when I write it. That may not fit into YOUR life but hey....am I bothered?
I thought I explained myself very clearly earlier on in this thread. Check some of the peado comments or insinuations. If you would like to show me where I can get information to say he has anything guilty on his criminal record I would love to see it. So on that basis if you or anyone else cannot find anything, then surely it is all mere speculation and assumptions and more importantly opinions??
you seem to be missing the point of what i believe has annoyed some people...you actually compared swinging, to an adult sharing his bed with young children,as an unacceptable lifestyle to unnacceptable behaviour...your example was quite frankly a load of old tosh!!
so he was never found guilty,well his defence team practically bankrupted him,thats how good they were...just because there was no solid proof,just the word of small little boys...doesn't mean that there wasn't something more sinister going on in that mans mind...for a man to say that he loves children and shares his bed with them ,all in the same breath,i find very disturbing.
You seem to have a soft spot for Michael Jackson, that you don't seem to have for others, which has shown you to be defensive of him.
Earthchild said in a post that she didn't particularly care about him, or his music, didn't care that he was gone, clearly, and bluntly pointing out that he doesn't affect her life, and your reply was "Am sure people will say the same about you."
And yet your comment of "A waste of space" with regards to Amy Whitehouse is no less a dismissive opinion than Earthy's was about Jackson.
Jackson may well be innocent, Jackson may well have paid someone off, Jackson may well have had the best attorney possible, the Prosecutors may have missed vital evidence, or failed to put a suitable case forward, in which the Defence took advantage.
You have mentioned that you would consider my comments worthy of reporting to admin, for that I can only apologise, if I am to get banned from this site, I would certainly rather it be for something worthwhile, as opposed to rising to any bait from someone out to push peoples buttons.
Oh, and for the record, we have not had any run-ins in the past, we have had nothing other than differences of opinion.
Earthchild said in a post that she didn't particularly care about him, or his music, didn't care that he was gone, clearly, and bluntly pointing out that he doesn't affect her life, and your reply was "Am sure people will say the same about you."
And yet your comment of "A waste of space" with regards to Amy Whitehouse is no less a dismissive opinion than Earthy's was about Jackson.
Jackson may well be innocent, Jackson may well have paid someone off, Jackson may well have had the best attorney possible, the Prosecutors may have missed vital evidence, or failed to put a suitable case forward, in which the Defence took advantage.
You have mentioned that you would consider my comments worthy of reporting to admin, for that I can only apologise, if I am to get banned from this site, I would certainly rather it be for something worthwhile, as opposed to rising to any bait from someone out to push peoples buttons.
Oh, and for the record, we have not had any run-ins in the past, we have had nothing other than differences of opinion.
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well this seems to be a hot topic,
All i really asked was could anyone place a MJ song or video to an event in their lives,
I think we all have places we remember and can recall the sound from the radio jukebox or whatever and associating them together.
no you didn't,you asked people what was their Michael Jackson moment!!
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As for being " disturbed " if I thought that comment anything other than funny, I would report it to admin as being rather offensive and a slur.
You contradict yourself on a regular basis and you display extreme paranoid tendencies..
For somebody to express concern about your well being by suggesting that you are disturbed is not insulting but an expression of concern about your mental state.
The fact that you see it as an insult merely compounds the issue and does give cause for concern.
I`ve no doubt that you`ll either fly off the handle or report me to admin, or both !! But I`m not going to sit by and watch while you are obviously suffering ... I think it`s about time you got some professional help.
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Sex God
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What, for the repeats?
