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20 Jun 2012

Quote by Theladyisaminx
After reading a few threads on here recently I have decided I am a time waster.
How I have decided this is by answering a few simple questions in my head.
1. I used to meet but don't anymore must = A time waster
2. I chat and have a laugh with people and because of number 1 above = A time waster
3. I don't arrange meets anymore = A time waster
4. I like chatting to people with like minds = wasting their time.
So adding it all up I must be a time waster and proud to be one.
Would any other time wasters like to unite with me?
Do drop in and say hi

Thing is this is supposed to be a swingers site not a place for old mates to chat and keep up. That is what facebook is for. Unless you are upfront all the time about the fact that you are not meeting at all then you leave yourself wide open (and rightly so) to the charge of time waster.
And the fact you fail to realise this and think those that get annoyed with you are in the wrong perfectly demonstrates the cliquey nature that has now greatly damaged the credibility of the site as a place for actual swingers who meet rather than just a chatroom.
Hello Bayboy,
First of all I have never used facebook. I have always felt it is a bit like - you can be in my gang as I have allowed you entry, type of place. It's not for me thanks. I much prefer to be able to have a chat with all types of people roaming about who enjoy sharing my company and I theirs.
I am honest on my profile and also in the room I opened last night called "Timewasters we don't meet or shagg" funnily enough many people came in and complemented me on my honesty. I have never in my five years on this site every been in a situation of getting anyone annoyed with me and have said I am in the wrong being here because I don't meet.
Swinging for me is like others have said. It is a mindset not having sex with all and sundry that ask. If your description of a cliquey is of people that share liked minds or activity this could relate to many activities within life. Then the simple fact you have joined here must make you want to join in the cliquey.
At the end of the day we must all share a common theme or we wouldn't be paying to join a site like this, the fact we all do it differently should just be respected in my honest opinion.
Hi Theladyisaminx
If I have grabbed hold of the wrong end of the stick then please accept my apologies my intention was not to single you out personally but to try and make a more general point. I suppose it did not help that it was after two bottles of wine and a few rum & cokes drinkies

drinkies

last night so my language was not as precise as it could have been.

20 Jun 2012

Quote by Trevaunance
Are you always so impolite?
Basic manners and civility cost nothing.

How impolite is it to come across all confrontational accusing someone of being a timewaster, even though they clearly state many times on the profile you failed to read that they are not meeting people at the moment?
Is it not even more impolite to accuse them of being a timewaster even though they have not wasted your time, or anyone elses as far as I am aware.
Your right, basic manners and civility cost nothing. Just like reading profiles.
lol

lol

Confrontational? My apologies I did not mean to disturb anyones delicate composition.
As for your repeated point regarding the profile, I did not view it as I was not making a specific point about the person in question rather a more general point. And I did not accuse anyone of being a timewaster I simply asserted that they should not be overly surprised that some may do so. Seeing as though most people, especially newcomers not familiar with the site, may be expecting swingers on a swinging site. Does not seem unreasonable does it?
To be honest I am more than a little amused at the knickers in a twist response it has prompted from so many. :twisted:

20 Jun 2012

Quote by Inanna

Inanna
As two attractive bi females I am sure your experience of the site is VASTLY different to any number of single guys on here.

Yes, but wasn't your point that people shouldn't be using the site to socialise? My point was that the site has enabled us to arrange hook ups, but it has also provided so much more. As newbies on the scene (regardless of gender or sexuality), this site has a lot to offer. I guess I just think that you get out of it what you put in, and that there's more to swinging than arranging meets.
I wasn't suggesting that our experience is the same as everyone's and I recognise that it's harder for single guys. But I wasn't making a comment on how easy it is to arrange meets depending on gender, sexuality, age, status or anything else. I was responding to your comment that the site is not credible as a swinging site because people use it for things other than meets.
Yes it probably is easier for us to get what we want from the site given that we're two young(ish) bi women, but if it makes you feel any better, we meet and play as a couple and so far have been primarily looking for single guys...!
Hi Inanna
No my point was that if people are only here to socialise and not swing then they should not be overly surprised when others expect them to actually swing. Seeing as though this is a swingers site not a just social one.
Is that really overly unreasonable as so many seem to think it is? dunno

dunno

20 Jun 2012

Quote by neilinleeds
Thing is this is supposed to be a swingers site not a place for old mates to chat and keep up. That is what facebook is for. Unless you are upfront all the time about the fact that you are not meeting at all then you leave yourself wide open (and rightly so) to the charge of time waster.
And the fact you fail to realise this and think those that get annoyed with you are in the wrong perfectly demonstrates the cliquey nature that has now greatly damaged the credibility of the site as a place for actual swingers who meet rather than just a chatroom.

And who made you the SH police? confused

confused

You're aware I take it that many, many users ( if not most in fact ) go through stages where they're actively looking for meets, periods where they're not looking to meet at all, and periods where they're just generally open to the possibilities SH occasionally offers and will see what happens to come their way. How do you suggest they should go about things, not that your opinion on the subject is of any concern whatsoever as far as the way other people choose to use the site goes, you understand. rolleyes

rolleyes

So people are not allowed an opinion then? No dissenting voices are to be heard? No surprises there.
I simply made the point that on a swingers site you have to be naive not to realise that some will be perturbed if others will not meet. Not really rocket science just human nature.

20 Jun 2012

Quote by Trevaunance
After reading a few threads on here recently I have decided I am a time waster.
How I have decided this is by answering a few simple questions in my head.
1. I used to meet but don't anymore must = A time waster
2. I chat and have a laugh with people and because of number 1 above = A time waster
3. I don't arrange meets anymore = A time waster
4. I like chatting to people with like minds = wasting their time.
So adding it all up I must be a time waster and proud to be one.
Would any other time wasters like to unite with me?
Do drop in and say hi

Thing is this is supposed to be a swingers site not a place for old mates to chat and keep up. That is what facebook is for. Unless you are upfront all the time about the fact that you are not meeting at all then you leave yourself wide open (and rightly so) to the charge of time waster.
And the fact you fail to realise this and think those that get annoyed with you are in the wrong perfectly demonstrates the cliquey nature that has now greatly damaged the credibility of the site as a place for actual swingers who meet rather than just a chatroom.
Personally I would have checked her profile before making a total arse of yourself!
Here's a short quote from it: 'I no longer want to meet'
Is that not upfront enough?
Are you always so impolite?
Basic manners and civility cost nothing.
As for looking at the profile I was making a general point not a specific one. Apologies if the subtlety was lost on you. Now what were you saying about making an arse?

20 Jun 2012

Quote by Inanna

Thing is this is supposed to be a swingers site not a place for old mates to chat and keep up. That is what facebook is for. Unless you are upfront all the time about the fact that you are not meeting at all then you leave yourself wide open (and rightly so) to the charge of time waster.
And the fact you fail to realise this and think those that get annoyed with you are in the wrong perfectly demonstrates the cliquey nature that has now greatly damaged the credibility of the site as a place for actual swingers who meet rather than just a chatroom.

It is a perfectly credible site. We joined in April, both totally new to the scene - our only real information about swinging at that point was from a friend who had started swinging with her boyfriend. It's now June and so far, we've met lots of really friendly, like-minded people who we can talk to about questions we have. The vast majority of people on the site are really genuine and down-to-earth. We've had 3 meets, but then decided to wait a while and explore things more before arranging any more. We've had the benefit of other people's experiences in short listing clubs to visit. We've been accompanied to a club by a great guy, which made the experience much nicer for us. And we're going to the Coventry social so that we can meet more people in the scene and continue our journey of discovering what we both want from swinging and all the pleasures it brings!
I repeat. We joined in April. We're not on any other sites. And we've only met 3 guys so far, but have chatted with loads of people - guys, girls and couples. Most of the people we chat to we will probably never meet. But that doesn't mean there's nothing to be gained from it. Why should the focus be entirely on meets? Surely there's got to be more to a good swinging site than just being a place to arrange hook ups?
Perhaps I'm just too new to it to understand how people can get so irritated by what others choose to use the site for...?
I love the site. I think it rocks! kiss

kiss

LB1
Inanna
As two attractive bi females I am sure your experience of the site is VASTLYdifferent to any number of single guys on here.

20 Jun 2012

It is perfectly rational human behaviour.
Men are designed to be attracted to young fertile females and women are designed to be attracted to young but powerful alpha type males. This is what we are.
Personally I have a bit of a baby face so I just lie like buggery when anyone asks me my age? lol

lol

20 Jun 2012

Inanna
:twisted: Any chance you could drop me a line next time you are going to a club?

20 Jun 2012

Quote by Theladyisaminx
After reading a few threads on here recently I have decided I am a time waster.
How I have decided this is by answering a few simple questions in my head.
1. I used to meet but don't anymore must = A time waster
2. I chat and have a laugh with people and because of number 1 above = A time waster
3. I don't arrange meets anymore = A time waster
4. I like chatting to people with like minds = wasting their time.
So adding it all up I must be a time waster and proud to be one.
Would any other time wasters like to unite with me?
Do drop in and say hi

Thing is this is supposed to be a swingers site not a place for old mates to chat and keep up. That is what facebook is for. Unless you are upfront all the time about the fact that you are not meeting at all then you leave yourself wide open (and rightly so) to the charge of time waster.
And the fact you fail to realise this and think those that get annoyed with you are in the wrong perfectly demonstrates the cliquey nature that has now greatly damaged the credibility of the site as a place for actual swingers who meet rather than just a chatroom.

20 Jun 2012

Not many words nowadays that provoke the same amount of response that slut does but hey how I will give it a go anyways.
A slut is a straight woman (or a gay man) who sleeps with pretty much anyone. Someone who has near zero standards and is content to basically shag anyone whenever the opportunity arises no matter how attractive the prospective person is.
That may sound like a judgement but to be honest its not. As a straight guy I would LOVEto be a slut but women as a gender do not want as much as sex as men (well me anyways). And if anyone really wants to try and say otherwise regarding the different sex drive of the genders please do not bother (have been through the argument a number of times) unless you are happy to have sex with me first to confirm you have a larger libido :twisted:

5 Jun 2012

Have learnt that I'm even too shy to get laid on a fecking swinging site banghead

banghead

30 May 2012

Anyone have any actual evidence at all to say that as a gender womens sex drive is as high as a mans?
All I have for my opinion is all of recorded human history, the current situation regarding the economics of the sex industry and the demographic make up of every single swinger site and sex club the world over. In addition all studies on the subject show that gay men have the most sex and lesbian women have the least.
Although personal anecdotes really are a poor form of debating in my experience I have had a higher sex drive than every lady I have been in a relationship with. Of course there will be individual ladies who do have a high libido but IMHO they are the exception to the rule and as yet I have never met one, but hey maybe I am just inordinately unlucky and attract prudes. banghead

banghead

If the genders libido is equal why is there a massive, massive, massive excess of male sexual desire? Simple logic dicates that thay cannot be equal!

29 May 2012

Despite what the frankly barmy mad idiots at The Guardian say the male sex drive is, has and always will be larger than the females. So yes ever since man first learned to paint pictures on the wall of a cave we have had porn!
Having said that the internet is on such a different level to anything that has ever come before that addiction to it will become a serious issue. Already now there are cases in South Korea, Japan and China becoming so immersed in alternative reality games that they neglect themselves and their loved ones in real life! Cases have involved both sexes.

29 May 2012

Quote by M1ssVery
I would like them to get intouch and tell me how to find just one :dry:

Well, lots of things you could try,
If you want to know how to find just the one, pop down to Leicester, do the "tipsy" bit with Shaz as she likes a bloody good knees up then I will tell you how to find one lol

lol

Oh I forgot to ask, what was it you was looking for? :lol:
When shall I come over then and can you accommodate :giggle:
I am looking for a prince who's better hung then the horse he's on and also well-endowed between the ears
Hey M1ssvery you just described me :twisted:

29 May 2012

Does anyone actually think there is any difference whatsoever between any of the main political parties?

29 May 2012

mincepie
Much obliged,thank you! wink

wink

29 May 2012

I just want to know what the other site was :twisted:

14 May 2012

Quote by Gee_Wizz
Strap it up before you slap it up!
If you're really worried though, perhaps within a few years this might be offered in a similar fashion to the pill.

You can just imagine the panic that is going through the boardrooms and AGM's of companies that manufacture condoms. If Truvada does indeed work condom sales will fall off a cliff!

14 May 2012

Think I'll have a little rant of my own :twisted:
People send out winks for a variety of reasons, mine has been that in the past that I read a persons/couples profile have written a detailed message of introduction taken the time to ensure that I am what their profile or ad says they are looking for only to have no response whatsoever. Nada, zilch, nought, nil. Not even a thanks but no thanks. In short a total waste of fecking time and effort.
When that happens regularly it is to put it politley annoying. Life is too short to spend hours trying to write original, clever, witty and hopefully erotic messages to people who lack even the basic civility to reply. Due to the numbers on here (ie vast over supply of single men) ladies and couples can afford the arrogance of this lack of manners.

14 May 2012

Quote by rupert bare
My dishwasher is over ten years old so presumably the risk is greater, think I will still wear a condom when filling it lol

lol

12 May 2012

Quote by UrbanSin
Or said woman has slept with a white guy who slept with a white woman who slept with who knows...

When you actually look at the rates of infection per sexual contact the odds you are talking about here you have more chance of being killed by your dishwasher.

9 May 2012

Local election results are meaningless, Blair lost them regularly but won the general election. The only election that mattered last week was Johnson winning in London.
Anywho it does not matter one jot who is in power as Lib/Lab/Con are all EXACTLY the same party. There is no difference between any of them.

9 May 2012

It depends upon who you meet really as infection rates vary wildly depending upon who a person is. If you meet white women who have never slept with a non white guy then you can pretty much do what the hell you want with no fears however if you meet a bi sexual chap who recently immigrated from Africa then suit up. (though if that is what floats your boat I suggest playing solo!)

9 May 2012

I'm a very proud Englishman but I despair at what it is becoming / has become. The way the once proud Englishman/woman now just bends over and allows anyone passing to screw them over without a whimper of protest is just plain pathetic. A nation now more interested in soap operas, moronic talent shows and nauseating reality TV than in anything worthwhile.
As for the OU if it is going to cost £15,000 for a degree then for that money you can study at some very good universities in far more pleasant places than the UK.
What a silly little joke the UK is fast becoming

24 Feb 2012

As for the public sector workers?
They need to wake up and smell the coffee.

24 Feb 2012

It is not as simple as saying the bank made a loss therefore nobody gets a bonus. RBS and Lloyds are both huge organisations with thousands of departments and countless thousands of employees.
Some departments will have made a crap load of money for their bank, why should they not be rewarded for doing what the bank desperately needs them to carry on doing. All the losses stem from the previous regimes ineptitude, fraud and hubris. Once again a massive thanks to Gordon Brown for letting them run riot unsupervised.
Bonuses are way down on what they were but the bottom line is if the taxpyer wants their money back they cannot handicap both Lloyds ( again thanks to Gordon Brown for ruining a perfectly good bank in Lloyds by forcing HBOS onto it) and RBS by making them totally different from all other banks.

8 Feb 2012

Please don't patronise me. You know nothing about me or my life experience. I'm all too familiar with the kind of ghettoised insularity of some muslim populations in areas like Harehills and Beeston in Leeds, having lived in both those areas for many years. It's a problem I think, because it works against integration for first generation immigrants to a large extent, but faced with general hostility from large sections of the white population it is hardly surprising that many muslims prefer to live in close knit communities where their particular needs can be catered to, same as what happened with black immigrants who came over in the 50s and 60s before them. It's simple safety in numbers. What tends to happen though is that second and third generations become more integrated and westernised having being exposed all their lives to British culture, British schools and the workplace, and feel less of a need for such insularity

Trouble is that is simply not happening. The second and third gerneration Muslims are MORE radical and less likely to integrate than those that first arrived here. What I posted previously was not patronising it was a simple statement of fact. Seperated communities are growing larger and further apart they are simply not integrating at all.
Muslims may want to live in close knit Muslim communities but the UK is not a Muslim country and it has vastly different values and norms that anyone living here needs to recognise and accept.
As for the EDL who you condemn, just who then should be highlighting the problems associated with the growing Muslim communities and their differences to British cultural norms? The Church of England? Well Rowan Williams has already stated its only a matter of time before we have sharia law courts. The BBC/Media? Well they have a news blackout on the mass trial of 47 Muslim men charged with grooming, and pimping white women and children now ongoing in Liverpool. They are more interested in Harry Redknaps tax affairs. The established political parties? Not that I support the BNP but when they first raised the problem of Muslims grooming white girls years ago they were shouted down and ignored by the Lib/Lab/Con leaving a great deal more vulnerable women to be taken advantage of.

And the EDL of course are all fluffy bunnies who would never think to use violence to further their political ends, aren't they? I would like to see these stats of yours that prove that most of the arrests made are of UAF members and other protesters against the EDL. It matters little though; those who choose to use violence or the threat of violence are to be condemned out of hand whichever side they take, except where used in self-defence, or in defence of others. The true purpose of going onto the streets in opposition is not to deny the EDL their right to free speech and peaceful protest. It is to challenge what they have to say for themselves and show that the ludicrously named English Defence League cannot claim in any way to speak for 'The English'. It is the very expression of free speech and peaceful protest, so please check your irony meter, it would appear to be faulty.

I never said the EDL were fluffy bunnies at all. Any such group will always have people joining it because they want a ruck or want to cause trouble, by condemning the whole organisation due to the actions of the few you then must agree that the UAF are also a violent threat to peace and order. Or is it one rule for one and one rule for another?
As for the stats they are freely available regarding who got nicked at such events google them.
Sorry but the reason the UAF take to the streets is SOLEY to stop others from marching and protesting to try and pretend otherwise is just plain absurd. The EDL may not speak for you fair enough its a free country but there are plenty for whom they do speak.

I actually agree with this in the main. By the same token the way to deal with Islamofascists like Al-Muhajiroun and their ilk is to ignore their attention seeking public pronouncements and thus treat them with the contempt they deserve. It's up to the security services and police to deal with those who truly pose a threat to us but a bearded bloke parading about shouting oscenities is doing a good enough job of making a twat of himself as far as most reasonable, intelligent people are concerned as it is, without the help of football hooligans, casuals and racist thugs aligned with the BNP.

You simply cannot ignore them and you simply cannot equate the EDL with groups such as Al-Muhajiroun. These groups are actively involved in raising money to commit acts of violence, not silly organised marches and the like but real acts of violence. Bombs or taking down aircraft. They are also involved in recruiting and radicalising young men and women. They cannot be ignored they have to be policed and challenged. It is not some harmless bearded bloke making a tit of himself if only it were. For every successful prosecution of a terrorist for an attempted attack there are a number that are stopped that never reach the publics attention. It is only a matter of time before another attack is successful.
Your last line just demonstrates you have swallowed the BBC and Guardian propaganda. The BNP and the EDL loath each other and one of the founders of the EDL is a Sikh. I watched an attempted hatchet job by the BBC on another of the founder members of the EDL, trying to paint him as nothing more than a moronic racist, the reaction of the BBC bloke when the guy produced his mixed race daughter was fecking hilarious.

8 Feb 2012

Quote by nellie-mwgc
I didnt say the edl shouldnt be allowed to march, i said people werent happy that the edl were allowed to march past the clock tower which is considered by many to be the centre of Leicester, we (luaf) werent allowed to march past the clock tower, we were given a route away from there.
no one in the march i was in (luaf) was arrested or even warned about how they were behaving, the police around us were smiling and chatty, although i know that the edl march was stopped for a while due to some of them chanting personal racist comments at some people they passed by
i think that if we want free speach then we have to also allow thses marches

Fair enough lol

lol

7 Feb 2012

Fred Goodwin was given a knighthood by the imbecile Brown for "services to banking."
There is no rational reason for anyone who bankrupted a bank and helped greatly to nearly bring down the UK banking system to be able to keep a knighthood for "services to banking".
There are others who were given honours that should also be looked at but if Goodwin is to be the scapegoat then it could not have happened to a more apt person. He still gets to keep his fat pension, massive house and all the money he "made" whilst at RBS, it would be more just if he lost them as I'm sure he cares more about that than some trinket from Her Maj!

7 Feb 2012

Quote by nellie-mwgc
I think the problem is that the marches are not likely to be orderly and peaceful and also the EDL are being allowed to march past the very heart of Leicester which upsets many people inluding LUAF who think they shouldnt be allowed to do that !

Why should any group be banned from marching in Leicester? Or anywhere for that matter. To try and prevent the EDL from marching through the town you are playing exactly into their hands. They will say that its one rule for us and one rule for them and why can't we march through an English town blah blah blah.
The way to deal with the EDL is simply to ignore them. By confronting them as the UAF do it just gives the EDL more publicity, attention and highlights their agenda whilst showing the UAF to be against free speech and freedom to protest. Two traits in common with most fascists.