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bayboy1664
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 44
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The only place in Europe if not the world that looks remotely like a democracy is Switzerland.
Everything else is a sick sham where the plebs get to pick which colour to vote for between parties who have pretty much the same policies. Not that it matters because as soon as they get into government they do what the hell they want anyway.
The UK government is insolvent in all but name and the only thing they can think of is getting rid of a few benefits. It truly is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic well after it has struck the iceberg.
If anyone has any pounds saved then buy anything with it, gold, silver, bricks and mortar, farm land, other currencies (swiss franc, aussie dollar, canadian dollar) anything that will store value as the only way the UK is ever going to pay off its debt is by massive I mean 1970's style massive inflation. This child benefit cut is a tiny tiny tiny step in the right direction but look at the fuss that is happening over it.
No modern country has got itself out of the financial hole that the USA and Western Europe are in now without a major war.
Anyway on that cheery note I shall end :twisted:
The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. Lenin
It has always been this way.
Quote by Jboss
The Tory government have proposed a shake up of the NHS, the 'Health and Social Care bill' which was passed earlier this year argues in favor of a privatized NHS. This is a horrific thing for the UK, and will ultimately result in a US style system. It highlights how we we do not live in a democratic country and the party in power can simply make changes that will have serious affects on our lives without most of the country even knowing about it. There were lost of demonstrations against this act, yet it has gone completely unreported by the UK press. Despite the fact the NHS has many flaws it is a system that we should be proud of and fight to keep

Sorry but that is just total and utter nonsense. Labour started the "privatising" and the current government is not Tory. There are hundreds of different systems of healthcare in the world and quite a number of them are better than the NHS.
It always baffles me how those defending the NHS in such an obvious political manner think people in say Germany or France or Canada or Australia or Japan or any number of other nations get healthcare? There are plenty of systems we could copy that are better than the US and UK systems.
"The USA has an expensive insurance based system" has no bearing at all on a debate about the NHS. And one of the main reasons why the US system is so expensive is because the Federal State does not allow competition between the different states insurance companies, if they did allow it costs would plummet.
Quote by Ellis_Dee
The reason why we cant afford anything is because we moved from socialism to capitalism. Capitalism runs the country at a loss.
Margaret Thatcher got in power with the slogan 'Labour isnt working unemployed'. She had a trade and budget surplus. After sweeping socialism under the carpet there were 3m unemployed and a trade and budget deficit.
Getting rid of the NHS only further destroys the disposable income of the public just like the tuition fees will do. Hence less spending in the economy and hence more debt.

There has been no capitalism in the UK for well over a hundred years. In capitalism if your business is bust you do not get a big fat handout from the taxpayer. Whatever we have now it certainly is not capitalism.
To have written the above I take it you are too young to remember the 1970's. The free market economy has risen the living standards of more people higher in the last 50 years than ever before in all of human history. The very thing you used to post on this website is down soley to the free market system.
Socialist economics failed and failed miserably, any glance at the fall of the Eastern Bloc, the USSR and Mao's China demonstrates that fact.
The sole reason there are tuition fees is that FAR FAR FAR more people are going to university it has feck all to do with anything else. We should go back to the system where only the best and brightest got a degree but I wager you would be against that.
Quote by Ben_Minx
How does one schedule ones emergency medical needs to coincide with a visit to the UK to make this NHS milking work?
"The EHIC card only entitles you to essential medical treatment"

When heavily pregnant and told you need a ceasarian you just jump on a plane to Manchester.
Health tourists cost the NHS countless millions a year.
Quote by GnV
Obama should control this by putting George dubbya on trial for war crimes and the torture of "pow's" in Guantanamo Bay.
It won't get very far, but they sure as hell will give FOX something to write about.

Obama has not closed Gitmo and is bombing the crap out of Pakistan with drones, killing any number of civilians.
Obama is just as guilty as Bush.
Quote by Too Hot
By the way - if you have never watched FOX News - try it - it is pure poison and you could never imagine such one sided 'news' ever being broadcast in the UK.

Fox is indeed biased but so is CNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, NPR
I don't think one network biased toward the right wing of politics in the USA is exactly a problem when all the others are biased toward the Democrats.
Obama is the biggest empty suit ever to get elected to high office, he makes Jimmy Carter look competant.
Obama won previous elections by getting opponents thrown off the ballot box or by getting court orders to open opponents sealed divorce records to use in a smear campaign. That is why they are now after Romneys tax records as Romney is a dull, tee totaller and happily married.
Obama got the most money ever donated by Wall St but somehow people think he is a man of the people. He has spent millions of dollars in legal fees keeping all his previous records sealed and has still not produced a full written birth certificate (personally I could not care less where he was born)
Obama has made more gaffes than Bush did, has played far more golf than Bush did and racked up more debt than all previous presidents put together. Thanks to a friendly media these facts are nowhere to be found on TV, let alone the truly awful BBC coverage of US politics.
Obama got elected because he was black and could read a teleprompter. When you think about it, it is a very sobering thought that the masses can be so easily led.
27 year old army officer (pilot at that trust me most of us are like that :twisted: ) gets drunk and parties after being at Top Gun training at Miramar.
Yes that really is a news story.
Only issue here is why the protection officers allowed camera phones in the room and after the pics were taken why did they allow poeple to keep their phones.
Free speech?banghead
Nope not anymore. You offend the PC Twaterrati and the witch hunt begins.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB

Ah the famous Building Schools for the Future program where you can get a state of the art £15 million building for the bargain price of £25 million.
Ed Balls and Building Schools for the Future is a perfect example of all that is wrong with the Labour Party. Grandiose scheme, good intentions, incompetant oversight, millions of pounds pissed up the wall and then complaints when someone else has to clean up the mess afterwards.
People who voted Labour should have an extra tax placed on them for the mess the UK is in and the debt that has to be repaid.

I know it's terrible that any government should want to improve the education facilities in this country isn't it ... what are the current incumbents doing ?? oh I remember now ... fuck all
P.F.I .... Tory idea still being used .... I know it's all Gordon Brown and Ed Balls' fault but the truth is a little different ... carry on
Typical tribal and partisan response from a left winger. Totally blind or wilfully ignorant to the short comings of those in a red rosette. It is people like you voting for the morons Brown and Balls that has resulted in the mess the government finances are in.
So you excuse Balls paying £10 million too much per school just because he was "trying to do something"? The unborn children who will be paying off Labours debts will thank you I'm sure.
The only reason the current lot are better than the last lot is because there is no money to spend as once again Labour pissed it all away.
Anyone who voted for Labour in 97, 01,or 05 should have an extra tax levied on them.
PS It is ridiculous to blame Browns catastrophic use of PFI on anyone but Brown and it reveals an infantile tribalism that you attempt to do so.
Quote by tweeky
Sorry for sounding cynical, but I seriously have doubts over some of these claims. To be honest those doubts are based solely around politics, timing and an inherent mistrust of sensational news, not hard facts.
However, what politician is going to go on record claiming such things, knowing that somebody somewhere in the press is going to leap all over it.
In all seriousness how many of these 20 or so 'playing field sell offs' were already in the pipeline before the change of government? How many are a result of land changes? How many leave schools with no playing fields at all?
In Exeter there was a major school rebuilding and refurbishment programme a few years ago. Almost every school was refurbished, or completely rebuilt. Some land changes occurred, for instance a comprehensive school was completely rebuilt from scratch 3/4 of a mile from where it originally sat for 60 odd years. The previous school site and it's playing fields were sold on to a Catholic organisation that now runs the school and it's playing fields privately. Yet this site was on the supposed list of 'sold of sites'.
Another area I know off was sold off to make room for an athletics track, rugby ground, BMX track and indoor and outdoor bowls. The athletics track/facilities are the same ones that one of this years Olympians, Jo Pavey, trains on, and every local school is given use of the facilities by Exeter City Council who own the site. So it's not all doom and gloom.
I accept that there may well have been 20 or so playing field areas sold off amongst the thousands of schools that we as a country maintain, but would someone please look behind the conveniently well timed and sensational headline to get at the facts?

Redevelopment of secondary schools was an initiative of the last Government. The same was planned for primarsys though this was scrapped by the Condem's. Our primary where our kids go is now paying for its own rennovations directly from its budget.
Ah the famous Building Schools for the Future program where you can get a state of the art £15 million building for the bargain price of £25 million.
Ed Balls and Building Schools for the Future is a perfect example of all that is wrong with the Labour Party. Grandiose scheme, good intentions, incompetant oversight, millions of pounds pissed up the wall and then complaints when someone else has to clean up the mess afterwards.
People who voted Labour should have an extra tax placed on them for the mess the UK is in and the debt that has to be repaid.
Quote by HnS
There needs to be "a big cultural change" towards sport in schools if Britain is to capitalise on Team GB's Olympic wins, David Cameron has said.
Meanwhile Education Secretary, Michael Gove, has approved the sale of more than 20 school sports fields in the past two years, official figures show.
These sell-offs come despite the coalition's pledge to protect school playing fields in England. (Two years ago, the Conservative and Liberal Democrat coalition agreement said the government would "support the creation of an annual Olympic-style schools sport event to encourage competitive sport in schools, and... seek to protect school playing fields")
Joined up Government any one ?
:sad:

14 of the 22 playing fields that have been approved for sale by Gove were from schools that had CLOSED. And the sales originate from LOCAL authorities not central government.
This is just another example of people with a political agenda twisting "facts" to suit their agenda.
Quote by GnV
Greg.
I can't agree with you.
To seek 'independance' would leave the UK seriously isolated.
Change the membership ticket by all means to something that is more suited to her needs, but total withdrawal from the EU would spell disaster.
There is much to fault the EU, particularly the Commission - as I have said before in this forum, but you can only fight it by being in it with people who will not be persuaded to roll over like a dutiful dog the minute they are elected.

So you think Japan is seriously isolated? Does not seem to be doing them too much harm.
There are no benefits for the UK to be in a club that is busily cutting its own throat economically. The UK already trades more with the rest of the world and has actually done so for quite some time. The Rotterdam Effect skewed the figures, goods destined for the rest of the world that transit the massive Dutch ports were counted as trade with the EU. A more obvious lie and massaging of the figures you would be hard pressed to find.
And every trading agreement the UK has with Europe is covered by the rules of the WTO.
There is no single decent economic reason why the UK needs to be in the EU, it is and always has been a political project.
A poorly educated and ignorant populace is easier to control and lead around by the nose. The dumbing down of education has been going on for decades where now only those with the money can get a top class education either by going to public school or spending a fat wedge of dosh on a house near one of the few decent state schools.
As for thick or ignorant? Sorry but some folk are thick and no amount of PC thought or language will change that fact.
My standards tend to be directly inversely proportional to how horny I am!! :twisted:
Quote by neilinleeds
Will someone please tell me about this socialist party .... the last one I remember was led by Michael Foot and died in the 80's

My better half has more than a passing knowledge of true socialism being a product of the former USSR.
With all due respect to her Too Hot, no she doesn't. What she has experience of is Stalinism. That is not the same thing as Socialism at all. It would be more correct to refer to the economic / political / social system under which she lived as State Capitalist, as demonstrated by the ease with which a free-market system was re-introduced after the collapses of '89-91 when what was essentially an internal market under State control was opened back up to outside economic influences.
If the Soviet Union had been a truly Socialist society the re-introduction of a Capitalist economic system would have required a revolutionary re-organisation of the entire political and economic system. As it was the state machinery including in large part the personnel running it were hardly touched because the system was already ordered top-down by a ruling elite, just like in Capitalist socieities. That's the polar opposite of the way in which a 'true' Socialist state works, ordered from the bottom-up.
ROFL
I see you are one of those who thinks that all socialist nations failed only because they were just not socialist enough. :doh:
Quote by Jboss
You know there is a brothel in Prague where men can go 'as customers', but they don't get charged, the footage is simply shown online

Now thats enterprising! A pornographer who does not have to pay half the talent!
Quote by Freckledbird
I,M a good looking guy who's not short of a few bob. All I want to do is invite a fit lady to have champagne licked from her pussy. What am I doing wrong! James x

Maybe you could invite your wife to have champagne licked from her pussy?
Um if us single blokes had an available and willing pussy then we would not need to be on here!
He's not single though.
Unfortunately in a marriage it is verycommon for the female half to put up the shutters and say shes not playing anymore. The ladies on SH are the exception not the rule!
pebble
There is little point in carrying on this thread as we shall not agree. I will end in saying that the world is full of numpties and when it comes to "evolution" and "civilisation" they can and often do go straight out the window when it comes to sex.
Man is an animal with emotions and no amount of pretending otherwise will alter that fact.
Quote by pebble
ROFL :doh:
Where do you live? It sounds as if it is similar to something out of the Stepford Wives where everyone is perfect and nobody dares step out of line.
Meanwhile back here in the real world adults should realise that a lot of people are complete tits with various undesirable personality traits.
Once again it never ceases to amaze me! You expect good and rational behaviour from all especially when sex and libido is invovled? banghead

Hmm? I "expect" REAL, GROWN MEN to have the basic courtesy to AT LEAST treat others as they are treated, like say not to lash out unprovoked. How is that unreasonable?! Why should I simply accept it that some sex-starved ape of a man decides to exercise his sociopathic imbalances on me? I am not sure why you are so keen to condone/normalise what is obviously a behaviour driven by immaturity, selfishness and disrespect. I also don't quite understand what's with the laughing, forehead-slapping, banging-head-against-the-wall routine - in itself slightly patronising, don't you think? dunno
zippy, your skim read was too perfunctory! Though your piece was excellent... for your mistake you will not get paid the agreed rate innocent
But :welcome: :borg:
Lastly, only tangentially relevant to this discussion, but .
pebble
A few points:
1 How do you know they were unprovoked? They could have sent out a thousand messages only to have zero responses or only abrupt or rude refusals. They could have wasted hours of time writing messages to women on here trying to get some attention.
2 How do you know they were not treating you as they have been treated? They could have been told to royally feck off by loads of people.
3 If you do not want to interact with men in a sexually charged environment then a swingers site is the last place in the world you should be. Thing is though I bet you think you have the unalienable right to be on here and expect all of the thousands of single men you have to chose from to be ALL perfect nineteenth century gentleman out of some Jane Austin novel none of them minding the constant knockbacks they get. Sorry but the real world does not work like that no matter how many feminist novels you read. Men wanting to meet women and not being able to get angry and resentful sorry but that is a fact that has been happening since homosapiens first managed to walk upright tens of thousands of years ago.
4 I am only pointing out normal human behaviours and traits that you are under the impression do not exist.
5 The forehead slapping and head banging comes from the sheer disbelief that you think normal human charactoristics are somehow surprising and somehow shocking. They're not, they are normal.
Quote by pebble
However, is it necessary to run it up the public flagpole ? Not sure that helps either. Do you have serious safety concerns for example, or is it a case of 'look at me'?

I take offence at this. Having been on the receiving end of criticism, taunts and aggression for no other reason than not pandering to the needs of an array of men too high on testosterone... I would like to be able to turn to the community for sympathy and advice without being accused (AGAIN) of being self-centred. It's good enough when you're a willing hole but not good enough when you have a mind/desire of your own? That's the underlying message of all such behaviour, and to be frank I am quite saddened to realise just how misogynistic a supposedly liberated bunch of people can be. Maybe if there was a little more respect for single women on here, there would be more of them about.
Bayboy, I don't care how sexually frustrated anybody is, this is an ADULT SITE (haha) and adults are meant to have mastered control of their aggression, and of delayed gratification - toddler tantrums have no place here. For the record, I am also disapproving of condescending messages/ironing handling of single men, there is no need for that either.
ROFL :doh:
Where do you live? It sounds as if it is similar to something out of the Stepford Wives where everyone is perfect and nobody dares step out of line.
Meanwhile back here in the real world adults should realise that a lot of people are complete tits with various undesirable personality traits.
Once again it never ceases to amaze me! You expect good and rational behaviour from all especially when sex and libido is invovled? banghead
For it to be sex something other than fingers or toes has to go inside :twisted:
Quote by Freckledbird
I,M a good looking guy who's not short of a few bob. All I want to do is invite a fit lady to have champagne licked from her pussy. What am I doing wrong! James x

Maybe you could invite your wife to have champagne licked from her pussy?
Um if us single blokes had an available and willing pussy then we would not need to be on here!
It never ceases to amaze me that people (women in the main) can be so shocked at those
(mainly single guys) who are being constantly ignored or constantly turned down can lead to them getting frustrated. dunno
Simple human behaviour, repeat a task over and over again without getting the desired result equals getting wound up and frustrated. Not really rocket science.
PS Though sending dumbass message like the guy did here is just plain boneheaded, he should have just knocked one off the wrist and calmed down!
Quote by john60
They say that 3 out of 10 guys will pay for the services of a prostitute at some time .would be great to hear about the experience,was it worth it,how much did it benefits of legalising it in the UK like they have in parts of Europe.
Any ladies paid for sex ?

A good rule of thumb with surveys is that if the answer is embarassing or a social no no then you can guarantee it underestimates the actual truth. If the survey says its 3 out of ten then you can bet it is higher. Same goes with suverys on such things like have you ever drunk driven or do you vote Tory.
As an old cycnic(realist) the all men pay for sex maxim has a certain ring of truth to it.
No threats? Just off the top of my head we have......
The EU is an undemocratic monolith that has no mandate from the people of Europe, every time they have allowed a vote they have lost but then ignored it. It is going through an economic crisis that could very well leave the whole thing in tatters with nations such as Greece, Spain and Italy all ripe for dictatorship or military coup.
The banking crisis that started in 2008 is still going on and the last time there was a banking crisis like this it led to World War Two.
Argentina is sabre rattling about "Las Malvinas" and all of South America including the massive country of Brazil is on their side.
Russia is a mafia state run by billionaire oligarchs who could turn off gas and oil supplies at the drop of a hat.
Egypt has just installed an Islamist government and will now be taking a much harder line on all issues. They can close the Suez at a moments notice
Iran is still an ongoing problem run by religious fanatics who want the bomb
China is looking to take over as the world largest economy and the USA will do anything they can to prevent that happening, with potential flashpoints in Korea and Taiwan
We are still at war in Afghanistan
Pakistan is a failed nuclear state with a population of 170million people many uneducated and very hostile to the West
The UK is not self sufficient in energy and food plus water in the South East is at its supply limits (thankfully its poured down this month)
Am sure there are other threats too but these are enough to be going on with. I heard a quote last week that this year is similar to 1913 in that we have no clue whatsoever what next year will bring.
Just another in a long line of left wing hypocrites whose attitude is do as I say not as I do. Champagne socialists really are the lowest of the low!
Riskiest place was 8000ft in the air seeing as though I was flying the plane at the same time wink